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[Forsvaret]

Why does he want people to empathize with terrorists by calling them 'Our people'.

Imran Khan even calls Pakistan’s military "our own people" despite what they have done to him and his party PTI for the last few years. And your point is?

 

[Areesh]

Here is the harsh reality Imran Khan acknowledges:

Only harsh reality is that Imran Khan simply doesn't have in him to acknowledge that he can be wrong too about somethings nad some issues

 

[Forsvaret]

Only harsh reality is that Imran Khan simply doesn't have in him to acknowledge that he can be wrong too about somethings nad some issues

Imran Khan is wrong about calling Pakistan’s military "our own people", but again that would have been my opinion only.

 

[Xestan]

Imran Khan even calls Pakistan’s military "our own people" despite what they have done to him and his party PTI for the last few years. And your point is?

Proves the point that he sees terrorists and the military with the same lens. That's the problem being highlighted here. In a proper state, he'd be tried for treason for giving stupid statements like these.

 

[Areesh]

Imran Khan is wrong about calling Pakistan’s military "our own people", but again that would have been my opinion only.

Obviously only Noor wali mehsud is "our own people" for you guys

 

[FuturePAF]

I wholeheartedly disagree with him. The TTP and anyone who sympathizes with them or shelters or facilitates them is not "our people".

While we abhor these miscreants, if they hold Pakistani citizenship, this just means we have to not only use kinetic force to oppose these forces, but also the courts, local police forces and the political landscape to effectively completely separate these militants from the public.

This is a struggle on many fronts. Delegitimization in the minds of the public in the areas these militants operate is part of that. Doing so within the social contract, aka constitution, is the only way it will ensure.

 

[Forsvaret]

This is a struggle on many fronts. Delegitimization in the minds of the public in the areas these militants operate is part of that.

Delegitimization in the minds of public requires a political solution, something which military (and its fan boys) vehemently oppose in their Bughaz-e-Imran.

 

[FuturePAF]

Delegitimization in the minds of public requires a political solution, something which military (and its fan boys) vehemently oppose in their Bughaz-e-Imran.

That’s why i have been saying bringing back IK to office would allow a political solution to be formed in the national body politic.

Obviously IK shouldn’t go only his gut feelings as to how to deal with the alienation and militant problems, but with the aid of knowledge and honest advisors, his credibility are something that can’t break through deadlocks, internally and across the northwestern border.

Credibility can’t be manufactured, it must be earned. all this time they keep him in jail, the state is concentrating all mainstream legitimacy, as far as many sections of the public see it, in only IK.

When the state stalls in economic benefit to the public, they will have no way left to placate the masses. A return of IK, a restoration of rule of law, and the sense that contract law will be upheld (look how recently also Malik Raiz was sidelined and how that sends shockwaves in the investor community) are all necessary to attract FDI from the diaspora and the larger world.

P.s. this is the time to bring IK out, if only for purely selfish national interest reasons. We need to find terms to have the Afghan Talibs work with Pakistan, on terms that serve our national security and economic interest. The Talibs are still global pariahs and if not with IK, whom the Talibs will at least have to begrudgingly accept, as a prominent Pakistani leader as well as very influential in the minds of many Pashtuns. (having seen PTI protests in the US and Canada, there are a cohort of Pashtuns that come to do the Attan, and recognize IK as reflecting something firm in their identity; resilience). If IK can get the Afghan mineral extraction (of known and documented reserves), processing and shipping started, it will greatly improve Pakistan’s economic and geo strategic standing globally. Money we need to jump start our economy, placate alienated sections (basically 99%) of the population, but also fund our military modernization.

The state needs to channel the IK energy towards the long term interests of the nation. A strong and perceived to be legitimate civilian political ruler as well as a strong military, each operating within their bounds, will help heal, with time, some of the widest fissures in society and allow the state to focus on building not just stabilizing on a foundation of sand castles.

 

[El Sidd]

Who deleted my post?

 

[Pak-Warrior]

“The operation in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa should be stopped immediately. At one time in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, the ANP was made unpopular. Instead of improving the situation, military operations against our own people only to please external forces make things worse. In these operations, our security forces are killed on one side and our own citizens on the other. Killing our own people always increases terrorism. The drone attacks on our side in Afghanistan and Pakistan should be stopped immediately.

I direct all the provincial and national assembly members and senators of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa to sit together and resist for peace in the province and to stop the operations and drone attacks against our own people so that this problem can be resolved peacefully. On the one hand, people are facing floods and inflation and they will also face an operation, which is very painful. History is a witness that there is no permanent solution to peace except through negotiations.

Afghanistan is our brotherly Muslim country. Afghan refugees have been living here for three generations. When the Prophet (peace be upon him) migrated to Medina, Everyone opened their doors for them and that is why Ansar Medina is respected till date but we made the land narrow for our Muslim brothers. Pushing and expelling the refugees is very sad. Asim Munir is doing all this to please the anti-Taliban lobby and is deliberately imposing war where there is no war. These steps should be stopped immediately otherwise the situation will worsen further”

Former Prime Minister Imran Khan’s conversation with his sisters in Adiala Jail. September 10, 2025

Specifically mention WHERE he said "TTP" are our own people ??

@Mods @Fatman17 @Oscar @Waz

Please rename this thread appropriately: "Imran khan's opposes military solution". and Ban any people who have gone crazy in their political biasness and lost all senses.


We can have different opinions but even enemies of Imran khan knows that he is one hell of a patriotic person. He is kind of crazy, sometimes stupid but hell of a patriotic person. I will rate him highest among all Pakistani politicians. He defended Pakistan Army at front foot when Osama was found and killed in Pakistan when Zardaris and Shareefs were hiding their faces. He was confronting international media and defending the military which was being accused of complicit or incompetent or both.

Zardaris & Shareefs have laundered billions of dollars outside the country. Created a billion dollar empire of businesses & real estate in Middle east & Europe out of our money that we don't see. The criminals are placed in-charge of the country despite nation rejected them in elections. But yet you are seeing all the problems in one man who has thrown in jail who has done absolutely nothing wrong. Yet we have audacity to put words into his mouth (when he is in prison and cannot speak directly to the nation). Shame on those who approves this level of injustice! Why don't you just die in shame!

A nation has no Future if it stays silent on SUCH level of injustice happening in front of our eyes. We are all doomed. Our nation's has no worth in front of today's leadership as our collective WILL was discarded like a tissue paper in last Ballot. We have declined several decades back in last 3 years.

Pakistan has lost so much that cannot be expressed in words. The civil rights, civilian supremacy, democratic evolution, media freedom, Justice system. Our decline was epic. Its heart breaking to see Pakistan gone at the rock bottom. Organisations have developed personailty cult. Officers who simply decline to retire and establish their dictatorships and spend nation's money on personal PRs with impunity.

 

[Rationale]

So, Imran Khan is one of the few Pakistani leaders who sees the parallels between what happened in East Pakistan and what is happening in KPK and Balochistan and people have a problem with that ?

 

[PakAl]

I don't agree with alot of PTI or even government policies but when they are correct I support it without any political bias. People don't understand the real situation and this is why alot of them are calling for operations, and invasion of Afghanistan and the rest are opposing this.

When Pakistan sent the army to tribal areas for the first time, JUI JI and alot of parties opposed this, then when military operation were about to start Pmln PTI JUI JI were making alot of noise against it, the parliament would not approve it and the army under raheel sharif decided to do operations anyway, then right at the end Pmln government approved it. PPP, Mqm, Anp, Sunni Ittehad Council, Sunni Tehreek, MWM, Pmlq were all calling for operations, to finish terrorists and take control of the country.

Now the question when our military police agencies are in control of tribal areas, then what operations are needed, are the militants holding territories like before? Or is our military talking about doing target operations in villages to find and kill militants who are hiding. I am assuming this must already be happening, when agencies locate terrorists they will find and destroy them, this is their job.

PTI and Imran Khan were wrong when they opposed the first military operations, because the operations reduced terorrism in the rest of Pakistan. If today Imran Khan is opposing operations, on what level is he opposing, I am assuming he means target operations in the villages etc or else we have no information on militants holding any territory like before. What's confusing is what are police FCR agencies doing in tribal areas, their job is to find and destroy militants, work with the locals to locate them etc.

If we continue doing operations in the villages, innocents will die, people houses and businesses will be effected and this does create hatred and division.

 

[Taimoor]

The problem is, as someone already mentioned, that both TTP and Army high command under Asim Muneer do not submit themselves to the constitution of Pakistan. both trample citizen's will and their collective wisdom with impunity. Both have made mockery of law and order, justice. Pakistan needs saving not just from TTP but from Asim Muneer and his gang. TTP and terrorism give justification for GHQ to keep their hold on Pakistan internal affairs and run their war economy they have been since 9/11. At the end of the day, both General and TTP need each other for their petty personal interest. Army needs a complete make over and reforms which will only bring the true warriors to lead the institution, not some slimy political entities wearing uniforms. Army should be forcefully made to focus back on India as a mortal enemy and other regional and and extra regional threats outside the border of Pakistan. Enough of this WOT.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

So, Imran Khan is one of the few Pakistani leaders who sees the parallels between what happened in East Pakistan and what is happening in KPK and Balochistan and people have a problem with that ?

Each and every word of him is proved correct over and over again. Yet we are so naive that we can't see. He had said in 2003 that there is no military solution in Afghanistan and US will fail to finish Taliban. That exactly happened. I sometimes wonder how someone could see that far against all odds. He had absolute firm belief that military bombings do collateral damages which turns people against own state and this has ripple effect.

He always specifically mention about normal / ordinary / patriotic people who got bombed. He never sympathize with hardcore terrorists. He was against consistent drone strikes by the US in Pakistan. He was the only one who stood against those. Those US drone strikes created more terrorists then it eliminated. As People turned against the state which couldn't protect them. He put a full stop to those drone strikes.

We all want to get rid of TTP & terrorism but we can't use airforce to bomb own areas for it. We have to use incompetent ISI. They have to do their job instead of politics. They have to infiltrate terror networks, find out their leadership, give exact coordinates or assassinate within and implode the whole thing. Its always intelligence agencies job to hunt terrorists Not the job of country's airforce. Our military dictators have done MASSIVE blunders. Blunders which we saw in our lifetime starting from Ziaulhaq 1.0.

 

[Areesh]

So, Imran Khan is one of the few Pakistani leaders who sees the parallels between what happened in East Pakistan and what is happening in KPK and Balochistan and people have a problem with that ?

The fact that you agree with him is enough that IK is wrong on this issue

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