USA Rethinking the India-Pakistan Dynamic.

harpy1 said:
Yeah getting back to the title thread
USA thinking India v Pakistan
my take
USA will.always back stab the non white countries especially Islamic
They looked away when Israel bombed Qatar even cut off their radars
They try I repeat try to tell India to stop buying oil.for years from .Russia
They told you we will bomb you back to the stone age during terror attacks..we all saw that comment across the world
Yeah ...you keep USA guys

We will keep modi and stick two fingers up at white house
Watch them.come crawling back to new Delhi
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We aren't keeping the US anywhere. It's a business relationship and we'll do legit business with the world. Unlike you guys, we won't run an international smuggling oil market for the Russians to make a quick few billions in profits.

Next, Modi and two fingers, is that why you are now obediently working on Trump's orders? Adani's all ship yards were instructed NOT to allow any ship to dock that was under sanctions by the West. Make up your mind, which direction is it? Either you are against the US and will continue to sell Russian oil, or, you are with the US and will obediently apologize and will surrender? Let me make it easy, it's the second. The USA has run your entire economy and country for 30 years. You can't afford to lose it.
 
RajaBaja said:
"Wrong Again" is how you started your post :ROFLMAO:! One can only be wrong if proven in a scientific factual way. Two people discussing two theories can't be wrong. It's called "difference of opinion".

The world runs on a system. These systems have been in place since the Roman and Greek empires. The larger administration is always at a state level and tax collection and local governance allows each city or economic zone to grow. We already have "Chamber of Commerce" and these represent individual industrial zones. So the structure for proper governance is there.

The structure we have, is no different than the US, UK, China, India. As always, being Pakistanis, we try to boil the entire ocean that's impossible. What we need is, economic growth. Not bullsh8. One day it's more provinces, one day it's break down the country into streets and call them provinces, etc. These dumb ideas only exist to fool common Pakistani.

There is now an economic structure in place. We'll judge it's success by 2028. Like I've been saying for a year now in almost every post written on economy. 2028 we are supposed to re-balance our GDP and establish a concrete future growth. We need practical growth. Not these bullsh8 ideas that have no economic backing or success anywhere in the world. These are being thrown around to favor one or two individuals as always.

Open up a separate thread so we can debate there. This thread is derailed so no more additional issues here outside of the US-India-Pakistan relationship.
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Most people around here are stuck in a fantasy, clinging to delusional ideas that have nothing to do with reality. You can’t have a real conversation with someone who won’t even admit there’s a problem. Until they’re willing to face the truth, there’s no point wasting breath.

Just give you prospective, please calculate Annual provincial assembly cost of each province in Pakistan and then compare it with development in last 25 years.
Also, calculate Pakistan’s total public debt and liabilities and Debt Per Citizen Calculation and then decide if Pakistan in need of provinces.

Just because something is working for one country doesn’t mean that it will work for another country. I have answered every possible scenario and question. Simple answer is cost vs development.
 
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RajaBaja said:
We aren't keeping the US anywhere. It's a business relationship and we'll do legit business with the world. Unlike you guys, we won't run an international smuggling oil market for the Russians to make a quick few billions in profits.

Next, Modi and two fingers, is that why you are now obediently working on Trump's orders? Adani's all ship yards were instructed NOT to allow any ship to dock that was under sanctions by the West. Make up your mind, which direction is it? Either you are against the US and will continue to sell Russian oil, or, you are with the US and will obediently apologize and will surrender? Let me make it easy, it's the second. The USA has run your entire economy and country for 30 years. You can't afford to lose it.
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Putin is coming to new Delhi state visit soon
You will see which fence we are sitting on
When
We continue to buy more russian oil
Buy russian s400 and su57 fighters
And even get license production of USA GE414 engines in India
France will set the fifth generation Safran engine plants in India
And the next USA president after Trump will be visiting India licking modi back side
Just one of many benefits being a multi trillion gdp growing at 7% for next two decades
 
Pakistanithinktank said:
I’ve got no issue with a hybrid system, if it delivers results for the public. But let’s be honest: it’s not working. That’s why I’ve proposed scrapping the bloated provincial setup and replacing it with streamlined economic zones at the divisional level, each led by a publicly elected governor with a lean, efficient cabinet.

The real power should sit where the people live, in districts and cities. We need to build a robust local government system, backed by full administrative authority and a reformed judicial framework that ensures access to justice at the grassroots. This isn’t just governance, it’s a blueprint for accountability, efficiency, and service driven leadership.
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If national and provincial governments failed, local governments will also fail
 
harpy1 said:
Putin is coming to new Delhi state visit soon
You will see which fence we are sitting on
When
We continue to buy more russian oil
Buy russian s400 and su57 fighters
And even get license production of USA GE414 engines in India
France will set the fifth generation Safran engine plants in India
And the next USA president after Trump will be visiting India licking modi back side
Just one of many benefits being a multi trillion gdp growing at 7% for next two decades
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So why did Adani ports issue a directive to ALL Indian ports to NOT allow even docking if a ship is under Western sanctions or related to Russian oil?

You are making billions in illegal profits through Indian oil smuggling cartel. So why stop all of a sudden? Answer: To make Daddy Trump happpy.

If he stays angry, your GDP will go -2% next year. Your FDI's already gone to hell, a drop of 96%. If US asked for its $ 3.5 trillions given to you over the years and a portion of 10 million jobs back, you'll go from $ 4 T to $ 2.5 T in a very short amount of time. A nation built on US's money will always be obedient to the real daddy. You can't write these statements here and hide your insecurities.

Pakistan buys weapons from many nations too. In fact, you silly waste billions on older tech and we get the top of the line. Compare PL-15 to Meteor. Now throw Meteors into a dust bin!
 
nahtanbob said:
If national and provincial governments failed, local governments will also fail
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Please explain your point.
Fail in what way?
What is the responsibility of National Government, Provincial Government and Local Government?
 
hasssanali8998 said:
again u are overestimating your importance , modi will be licking us backside no the other way around
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Did you see modi licking anyone
He stuck two fingers to USA over the oil for three years
Stop making bull shit up
India follows no one
We follow Indian national interests only
Buy russian oil
Support Israel
Friends with all.arabs
Buy USA engines and drones
Have military relations with France
Awesome trade with all of Europe
Brics leader
4th largest gdp on planet
650 billion in forex
 
hasssanali8998 said:
again u are overestimating your importance , modi will be licking us backside no the other way around
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The clip will tell you everything
 
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You want creditibility like modi and India
You need economic and financial muscle
Not a pl15 missle imported from china
 
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The clip will tell you everything
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ahh yes take one clip can i show u others clips of shehbaz with putin xi and other , and other clips of modi making a joke out of himself
 
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