AJK govt bans Joint Awami Action Committee, notification issued

[The Sundance Kid]

"By late 2025, public anger erupted again when the state failed to fully implement the structural reforms promised in 2024, particularly around curbing the tax exemptions and luxury perks enjoyed by ruling elites"

The most reasonable demand in history.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

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Pakistan did not pay anything to the AJK government as water usage charges/royalty for Mangla Dam for 36 years.
In 2003, they started paying 15 paisa per unit when they were paying 1 rupee 15 paisa per unit to other provinces of Pakistan.
The government of Azad Kashmir received 1/7th of what what other provinces were receiving for hydropower.

But the most egregious part is that while AJK government receives pittance for exporting hydro electricity to Pakistan, Pakistan re-exports the same electricity back to AJK at exorbitant costs!

80% of AJK budget comes from Islamabad. Stop posting BS of dam royality which only amount of Rs20bn per year while Islamabad give them Rs240bn.

 

[hussain0216]

80% of AJK budget comes from Islamabad. Stop posting BS of dam royality which only amount of Rs20bn per year while Islamabad give them Rs240bn.

Our taxation system is broken

It centers around Punjab and Karachi's,

Everyone else tends to underpay and demand everything z not giving a crap about other poor people in the country

 

[RescueRanger]

Gentlemen please refrain from making this too "political".

 

[iron shrapnel]

Gentlemen please refrain from making this too "political".

Brother what are we gonna discuss in a political problem if not politics ?

 

[RescueRanger]

Brother what are we gonna discuss in a political problem if not politics ?

Brother this is a thread on Internal security. People are flining excrement at eachothers political affiliations. It's unnecessary and unhelpful to the debate.

Kindly contribute to healthy debates as personal attacks don't help.

 

[Corax]

We Pakistanis of every kind love to catasrophise, every incident like this, no matter how large or small, implies the imminent collapse of the state, all orchestrated by the evil masterminds of india. Most of the time we're at each others necks anyway so the Indians don't really have to do much.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

“According to the Constitution of Azad Jammu and Kashmir, the President, Prime Minister, and Members of the Assembly are bound by this oath, which clearly states:

"That I will remain loyal to the country and the cause of accession of the State of Jammu and Kashmir to Pakistan."

Similarly, the Election Act of Azad Kashmir states it with further elaboration:
"I solemnly declare that I believe in the ideology of Pakistan, the ideology of state's accession to Pakistan and the integrity and sovereignty of Pakistan."

In contrast, the alternative oath proposed by the Jammu Kashmir Joint Awami Action Committee states:
"Mandatory oath of loyalty by candidates and elected members of the Legislative Assembly to the geographical unity and integrity of the State of Jammu and Kashmir."

So Rana Sanaullah was right. Indian action committe have put forward this demand. And you want state to negotiate with separatists? Inna di bund sui kardo

 

[Waz]

You acknowledge that the overwhelming majority of AJK's population descends from tribes that migrated from Punjab and that many speak languages such as Pahari, Potohari, Hindko, or Punjabi rather than Kashmiri. Yet you reject any Punjabi connection while simultaneously claiming a Kashmiri identity.

The Afghanistan comparison does not work because "Afghan" evolved into a national identity encompassing multiple ethnic groups. "Kashmiri," however, has traditionally referred to an ethnic and linguistic group originating from the Kashmir Valley. If ethnicity matters, then ancestry, language, and historical origin cannot simply be ignored.

You also portray the Sikh Empire as a Punjabi force opposed by AJK. But Sikhs themselves are Punjabis. Ranjit Singh's empire was fundamentally a Punjabi-led state, and many of the groups that later became part of Pakistan's Punjab, Jammu, and AJK were incorporated into it. Fighting the Sikh Empire does not somehow make a population non-Punjabi.

Nobody denies that people living along the LoC have suffered from Indian shelling and cross-border conflict. However, suffering does not determine ethnicity. The question of who is ethnically Kashmiri is separate from the question of who has suffered because of the Kashmir dispute.

If the basis for being Kashmiri is political affiliation rather than ethnicity, language, ancestry, or geography, then the term loses any clear meaning. By that logic, millions of non-Kashmiris who support the Kashmir cause could also claim to be Kashmiris.

That's the origin not what it became. And no, I don't claim a 'Kashmiri' identity, you can ask them why they do. The people of AJK are a mix.

No, Afghan historically and culturally has meant Pashtun that's a fact, even acknowledged by the other ethnic groups. The 16th-century work Baburnama distinguishes Afghans (Pashtuns) from other ethnic groups. The 17th-century Pashtun chronicle Makhzan-i-Afghani treats "Afghan" and "Pashtun" as essentially synonymous. In the Mughal period, Afghan rulers such as Sher Shah Suri were described as Afghans because they were Pashtuns.However to have a cohesive state they took on the term to bring in non-Pashtun groups. How can it not apply to Pashtuns but it does for Kashmiris? But yes the true Kashmiri ethnicity is a dardic one centered around the valley, but hey haven't lived in isolation and relied on mountainous tribes for support.

Yes, the Sikh empire was opposed by AJK and countless battles were fought against it. It makes no difference whether they were Punjabis, as they were fought on the basis of them being a hostile force with a faith different to ours. There was no issue with the Mughals.
As for the word 'incorporation' that applies to the Punjab plains that make up Pakistan who willingly went along with the Sikh empire. We didn't. Also war is the ultimate in defiance of not wanting to be part of a nation or people, that's more than enough to show that we wanted no part of this united Punjabi identity under them. This is something the British also later exploited as mentioned in my earlier posts.

I didn't state that our people suffered so hence we are the true Kashmiris. It was put up in response to a poster who stated that the people of IOK has suffered the most, which is true. My point was that there has been plenty of suffering inflicted on our people as well.
The millions of people who support the Kashmiri cause don't live in the region or are a direct party to the conflict, like the people of AJK are. It's more than just a political stand or a label they apply to themselves. As for culture and race I've responded to that earlier on in my post.

 

[Waz]

Someone from Bhimber/Mirpur have little in common with someone from Neelam valley. Both are AJK because these areas were gifted to Dogra for their services to British. Not taking in to account ethnicity or languages. And then ended up with Pakistan and thats how modern AJK came in to being. Its neither Kashmir nor Jammu.

Pakistan pushed this identity on to AJK to keep the dispute alive.

That's true, then we can also say someone from Punjab has little in common with a Pashtun in Pakistan. But there's a shared cause i.e. Pakistan. Yes that's how the state came into being, but the key point here is that the region is called as such because it lives free. Kashmir should have gone to Pakistan in it's entirety, so of course AJK will be the focal point to push this.