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[Cash gk]

Doesn't matter what he thinks.. matters what people think

This is what people think

 

[gamaji]

He can if he obeys the slave Generals

Obey or not obey, he will keep rotting in jail. BTW he is willing and requesting to lick the boot.

Truck ki batti ko chore do.

 

[Cash gk]

Doesn't matter what he thinks.. matters what people think

Legally and ethically, he is the Prime Minister of Pakistan because the people of Pakistan gave him this right. No one else in Pakistan has more legitimacy to say this than he does.

 

[gamaji]

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This is what people think

This is what paid dogs keep barking for.

How can a genuine organization miss reporting the massive rigging of 2018's general elections in Pakistan and lie about 2024 elections, which were much more transparent compared to the ones held in 2018?

 

[HAIDER]

Obey or not obey, he will keep rotting in jail. BTW he is willing and requesting to lick the boot.

Truck ki batti ko chore do.

He did his job, the rest can cry .... and cry out loud ...

 

[Cash gk]

Title say it all. They sold their own Pakistanis in both cases

 

[gamaji]

He did his job, the rest can cry .... and cry out loud ...

You know who is crying and moaning all the time from within the jail and outside.

 

[mythbuster]

You know who is crying and moaning all the time from within the jail and outside.

Forget IK , he is history...... who shall be brought to power in the next round ? Bilawal khusra or Maryam plastic?

 

[Maarkhoor]

Charsi at it best......

 

[gamaji]

Forget IK , he is history...... who shall be brought to power in the next round ? Bilawal khusra or Maryam plastic?

I have no idea.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

Why don't you expat Pakistanis living in the West ever get this: The Taliban of Pakistan want a sizable territory AND they would do in that territory what they did in the Malakand Division from mid 2000s until they were kicked out. Do I need to share some videos about that brand of 'Islam' here? Have you not seen Imran's atavism of thought, of his latest marriage?

On a more practical terms: The Messiah Khan, which you expat guys support, is the main oxygen for the Taliban 'cause'. He always was. The Americans and the Indians have long gone from Afghanistan so why there are still these pockets of empathy for the Taliban in Pakistan?? Have you ever considered that Imran's dual strategy is to use his so-called ethnic Pashtun credentials, in combination with Pakistanis' anti-Americanism, and Pakistanis' fatigue with the old Zardari-Sharif led order to come back to power? Have you guys ever thought about the compromised, inefficient prominent 'leaders' Imran had surrounded himself with when given the Power for almost four years? Is that the face of a 'revolutionary'?

You’re presenting a very one sided, almost caricatured view of both Pakistan’s internal dynamics and the diaspora’s perspective. Let’s unpack this carefully.

Taliban vs. Pakistani Politics
No one denies that the Taliban in Pakistan pursued territorial control, especially in Malakand and Swat during the 2000s. But to conflate that history with every critique of the current political setup is misleading. The Taliban’s rise was rooted in decades of state policies, Afghan war spillovers, and structural governance failures not solely in the rhetoric of one politician. Reducing such a complex security issue to “Imran Khan = oxygen for Taliban” is overly simplistic.

Expatriate Blindness?
To say that expats “never get this” is dismissive. Many of them outside Pakistan follow these issues closely, sometimes even with greater objectivity because they aren’t tied to local patronage networks. Questioning the Taliban’s brutality and simultaneously questioning Pakistan’s ruling elite are not mutually exclusive. Both can and should be critiqued.

Imran Khan’s Alleged ‘Dual Strategy’
Yes, he often employed populist rhetoric that played on anti-Americanism and Pashtun identity. But let’s be fair, he did not invent Pakistanis’ disillusionment with U.S. policy, nor did he single handedly cultivate Pashtun grievances. These sentiments predate him by decades and have been exploited by every major political actor when convenient. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous.

Failures in Power
Khan’s government certainly faltered in many areas governance, inflation management, and even cabinet choices. But pointing to inefficiency does not erase the broader reality that Pakistan’s political system, as a whole, is deeply compromised. Zardari, Sharif, and countless others have rotated in and out of power with equally questionable entourages. To call Khan uniquely compromised is selective outrage.

‘Messiah’ Label & Revolutionary Standards
No serious analyst treats Khan as a flawless messiah or revolutionary. He is a political actor, flawed and inconsistent like the rest. But the popular appeal he commands speaks to something deeper, a rejection of dynastic politics, patronage mafias, and the perception of elite capture of the state. To dismiss this entirely is to miss why he continues to resonate with a large segment of Pakistan’s population.

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

PDF is so cut off from the ground realities that what we read here is not exactly what happen in Pakistan, here everyone pretends to be all changa si attitude but reality is that racism is so imbedded in our society where we still see comments like sons of soil, and we use terms Bengali's as insult... I am not surprised that candy a$$ fair skinned Imran khan looked down upon the Urdu speaking people, or maybe his hate was from the time of MQM which IK was always a staunch enemy off, and despite his try's he couldn't get any hold in Karachi politics until MQM was gone. And guess what he did ? rather than be the leader for the people who win him seats he didn't even visited Karachi or did shit for Karachi.

That argument oversimplifies both Karachi’s politics and Imran Khan’s role in it. Let me break down your points and explain them in a clear and straightforward way for everyone to understand.

Forum vs. Ground Reality
Yes, online spaces can sometimes feel disconnected from realities on the ground. But to say everyone here has a “changa si” attitude ignores the fact that many Pakistanis, both at home and abroad, openly acknowledge issues of racism, ethnic bias, and social inequality. Pretending these discussions don’t happen is itself a misrepresentation.

Ethnic Bias & Insults
Racism and ethnic prejudice unfortunately exist across Pakistani society, not limited to one party or leader. Reducing the issue to “Imran Khan looked down on Urdu speakers” is selective framing. Political rivalries with MQM or disagreements with its methods don’t automatically translate into hatred of an entire community. Many political actors, including PPP, PML-N, and the establishment itself, have had tense relations with MQM at different times.

MQM’s Own Failures
It’s important to note that MQM themselves were deeply compromised. Whenever they were given opportunities to govern, they fell short of delivering and often shifted the blame onto PPP. For over 30 years, they promised to address the quota system an issue central to their base but they never succeeded in removing it. This repeated cycle of failure eroded their credibility long before Khan made any inroads in Karachi. To pretend MQM was a victim while ignoring their own track record is rewriting history.

Karachi Politics
Karachi has always been a complex, contested space. Khan didn’t struggle there because of personal prejudice alone; he faced decades of MQM’s entrenched political machinery, patronage networks, and, at times, violence. His eventual breakthrough came when MQM weakened not because he suddenly “hated less,” but because structural openings appeared.

Performance for Karachi
Criticism that Khan didn’t deliver much for Karachi is fair but it isn’t unique to him. For decades, successive governments, from Zardari to Sharif to military regimes, have failed to address Karachi’s infrastructure, water, and governance issues. To single out Khan as though neglect began with him misses the long history of state abandonment in Pakistan’s largest city.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

It's high time they should release IK and exile him at the zero point on the Afgan border....

 

[Pakistanithinktank]

Don't want to sound like a broken record but I am repeating again that Khan's account is BEING RUN BY HIS FOREIGN JEWISH HANDLERS. MR KHAN HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN AGENT OF JEWISH CHAOS with the goal of a regime change in Pakistan.

I have said it many times, blind fold this guy, put him on a plane and send him to another country, and never let him in again.

If what you are saying is true, then why is the establishment keeping Imran Khan in jail? And even if he is forced into exile, will that solve the real problems facing the Pakistani people, access to clean water, food, shelter, security, and jobs?

According to the 2024 Corruption Perceptions Index, Pakistan ranks 135th out of 180 countries. The World Bank reports that approximately 44.7% of the population lives below the poverty line, based on the updated $4.20/day threshold. The IMF ranks Pakistan 52nd among the world’s poorest countries.

These figures show that corruption and poverty are systemic challenges. Will all of this be fixed simply by Imran Khan going into exile or being removed from the scene?

 

[Oscar]

Did he even visited Karachi ? If I am correct maybe like once or twice right? This guy was so full of himself and I won't be surprised if he was racist too and look down upon those kaalay paan aur gutka khaane wale Urdu speaking aur Bihari's.

He wasnt racist while he needed the political aspect and made it a point to exclude Karachi as soon as he won the elections from certain districts. Oddly, Arif Alvi being fully from Karachi was an odd one out among others.

But his disdain from Karachi stemmed from deeper history and alleged extortion attempts by MQM against him.