Pakistan Air Force | News & Discussions

[Hayabusa]

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Lol tell us what is SU30 pilot doing at this drone crash site? A drone crashes and the entire village witnesses 2 pilots getting rescued
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You are wasting your time replying to them.

Like I mentioned before. Even if Modi personally comes to this forum to let them know the MKI crashed, these Indians will still not believe it and think we bribed him or he did it for political reasons.

 

[RajaBaja]

Pakistan is better off buying off the shelf for 5th generation platforms from China. Pakistan cannot make a full 4.5 gen airframe in Pakistan as of now, so what is the point in "another" TOT project?

Both the K8 and JF17 projects failed to deliver a true aviation industry. First exam why, and fix those issues properly before jumping into another project.

Pakistan would do well to fix the fundamental issues in Pakistan first, rather than waste money on TOT projects that don't lead anywhere.

So, yes, buy 5th Gen jets and UCAVs, but dont waste time on TOT, or local manufacturing of them. It will be a waste of money that can be used to buy more units of the plane instead.

I wrote these posts with having some knowledge of the future events, like the Saudi-Pakistani defense pact.

A new force is being raised. Initially it will comprise of joint assets from the PAF / PA /PN and Saudi military. But that's not the target. Other nations will join this force in the future.

The target is, we (Saudias + Pakistanis) establish a joint industry producing key military hardware including 5th gen jets and missiles both BVR and AD.

JF-17 is a success story. It wasn't meant to build a full aviation industry, nor we had the funds to establish a full aviation industry. It's goal was to give us a starter into the field of aviation and most of all, allow to build a joint jet that's super cost effective, can perform workhorse activities day /night and can be produced in numbers. All goals met.

With the joint structure we'll see in place, has no issues in funding. So this time, establishing a proper manufacturing line of some 5th and 4.5 generation platform, whether customized for Pakistan or an existing fighter's variant will be required. You can't build and run a military alliance when the weapons used by that alliance are depending on foreign nations. This makes the entire concept of a military alliance invalid.

 

[Hayabusa]

bad way to look at it- good enough is never good enough. If that Brahmos was 2 feet off, we would have written off an erieye- $100m in lost aew, more importantly, degraded capability.

Next conflict, they will just target fighters in hangars, they know this is a safer bet than a2a combat- imagine losing a $300m J-35 to a brahmos. Its very possible.

Was it really 2 feet though? I would assume an impact that far off would be enough to write the Erieye off.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

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There is zero proof of this as no footage has emerged of drones over Delhi and nor has PAF managed to publish any drone feed.

there was never really a 'proof' for Galwan valley incident, dude!

until Chinese social media started to leak photos!

One thing I have noted, you people argue about 0 proof like a 'caught thief'!

 

[BonPlan]

How many T/R components does the RBE2 radar have and what is its average power?Did the French emphasize that the Rafale cannot even use the two-way data link of the Meteor missile?

More than 1000 T/R (the sole official pic of the antenna, where there was nearly 850 modules was the RBE2 AA (for Antenne Active) made with US modules (with deceptfull capacity...). The serially produce has more than 1000 european modules.

The indian Rafale are fitted with the 2 data link Meteor. I don't have the status of the french one today.

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Fatman17]

I wrote these posts with having some knowledge of the future events, like the Saudi-Pakistani defense pact.

A new force is being raised. Initially it will comprise of joint assets from the PAF / PA /PN and Saudi military. But that's not the target. Other nations will join this force in the future.

The target is, we (Saudias + Pakistanis) establish a joint industry producing key military hardware including 5th gen jets and missiles both BVR and AD.

JF-17 is a success story. It wasn't meant to build a full aviation industry, nor we had the funds to establish a full aviation industry. It's goal was to give us a starter into the field of aviation and most of all, allow to build a joint jet that's super cost effective, can perform workhorse activities day /night and can be produced in numbers. All goals met.

With the joint structure we'll see in place, has no issues in funding. So this time, establishing a proper manufacturing line of some 5th and 4.5 generation platform, whether customized for Pakistan or an existing fighter's variant will be required. You can't build and run a military alliance when the weapons used by that alliance are depending on foreign nations. This makes the entire concept of a military alliance invalid.

Mere speculation indeed

 

[Broghil]

Hamara khoon Bhi shamil he tazeen E gulistan men
Hamen Bhi yaad ker Lena chaman men jab bahar aey
ہمارا خون بھی شامل ہے تزئین گلستاں میں
ہمیں بھی یاد کر لینا چمن میں جب بہار آئے

 

[BonPlan]

The biggest advantage of the Meteor missile is its range of over 200km and its relatively fast average speed. However, its disadvantage is that its guidance head is improved from the Mika missile and is already old.As stealth fighters become increasingly popular, it is difficult to play a role

It was rumored that the max range of Meteor is superior to 300km. Probably not with a high pk at such a distance. This range is so big that the french air force had to change of shooting range to fit this.
Seeker : the Meteor seeker is a direct son of AD4A of MICA. But this seeker made in 2025 is not the same than the one produce in 1995 ! The next big change will be to adapt on Meteor another son of the new AESA seeker of MICA NG. first delivery of MICA NG EM in 2026, so Meteor NG to follow.

 

[Yasser76]

On reconnaît les Indiens simplement à leur psyché, révélée lorsqu'ils parlent ou écrivent. Bien sûr, nous n'avons aucun moyen physique de savoir qui vous êtes vraiment. Mais si l'on en juge à votre mentalité, vous n'êtes pas différent d'un Indien typique.

Il n'y a donc que deux possibilités : soit vous êtes Indien, soit vous avez la même psyché indienne délirante.

No poor Rakesh has to go and copy and paste this into Google translate....

 

[BonPlan]

Why did you prevent Dassault Aviation from entering your Bases where you have the Rafales? Its been...what...5 Months now and I still haven't heard a peep out of Dassault Aviation.

1) you have absolutely no serious source to be sure Dassault workers are ban from the indian Rafale air base (only 1 base). If not please give it soon.

2) Dassault NEVER SPEAK instead of its customer, even if they win a deal. It's a old habit of this company.

 

[BonPlan]

The IAF is ordering 114 Rafales (Ambanis being the middlemen)! Dassault should be eternally grateful to the PAF: 114 for 4! Only had the the PAF shot down more.....

under the sea level.

 

[falcon34]

Aoa
I told you, in June all that 8 rafales are downed. But u thought it was a joke.
Anyways , congratulations all

Buddy can you elaborate on this more, were all air to air kills or sam's did damage, any kills to JF17?.

 

[side-winder]

@gamaji @BonPlan
No more posts in whatever alien language you are using.

 

[Ali_Baba]

The IAF is ordering 114 Rafales (Ambanis being the middlemen)! Dassault should be eternally grateful to the PAF: 114 for 4! Only had the the PAF shot down more.....

Have the Indians actually signed contracts? All I see so far, are "statements of intent", nothing else.