Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

[atmi_bum]

Palestinians don't gravitate towards India. No one does. They will take whatever little support they can get whichever corner it comes from.... and the Indian support for them has been miniscule. You have been cowardly non-players or vicarious cheerleaders for Israel in the Palestinian Genocide with increasing tilt towards the latter. The meaningless vocal support you showed in the past hasn't been there since long. But that has also not resulted in Israel "gravitating" towards you.

India's support for the Palestinians is lukewarm because Hamas leads it. And given the attack on October 7th, India has found common cause with Israel rather than with the Palestinians. Not even the Arabs are on the side of the Palestinians this time around. It may have to do with the fact that Hamas is part of the Muslim Brotherhood and an Iranian proxy.

 

[Bilal]

Indian diaspora in Gulf being used to threaten KSA by indian deep state media. Interesting.

 

[Yasser76]

India's support for the Palestinians is lukewarm because Hamas leads it. And given the attack on October 7th, India has found common cause with Israel rather than with the Palestinians. Not even the Arabs are on the side of the Palestinians this time around. It may have to do with the fact that Hamas is part of the Muslim Brotherhood and an Iranian proxy.

Dude, in. all honesty, no one cares about India's position here, it simply is not a player in this game.

 

[Cash gk]

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Indian diaspora in Gulf being used to threaten KSA by indian deep state media. Interesting.

Please give me this drug

 

[the vicious kind]

No matter who pulled the trigger, Pakistan was involved. Why deny it?

As for 1973, the Arabs lost just like they lost every war with Israel. Pakistan's involvement did not change that.

As for India not criticizing Israel, it can be explained by the changing geopolitics. India, under Congress rule, supported the Palestinians, including not even recognizing Israel (which happened under Modi). At the time, the Palestinians were led by secular, Marxist groups like the PLO and PFLP. Today, things have changed significantly. Hamas is in charge, and Congress has given way to Modi and the BJP. Why would India support an organization like Hams, which not even Arabs like?

Personally, I don't care about Israelis or Palestinians. I have no stake in this conflct.

PLO was instigating a coup in Jordan. PLO was literally the worst thing to happen to Palestine.

Haql (google the city), an ancient seaside resort in northwestern KSA, next to the Red Sea, is 31.5 km away (in direct flight) from Eilat/Ilat. 51.5 km by road when taking the Aqaba route. In fact you can from Haql (I have been there, a very nice area), see the nearby coastline of Egypt (Sinai), Jordan and Palestine (Israel).

Also the main military base in Northern KSA is not in Al-Jawf province but in Tabuk (another very beautiful and ancient region of KSA). King Faisal Air Base. Less than 400 km distance to Al-Quds.

The closest main population center (Al-Qurayyat) to Al-Quds is about 250-280 km by car driving through Jordan (obviously).

KSA is a huge country (12th largest in the world) so depending where you are in KSA, you are much closer to neighbouring countries x or y than other areas of KSA but this is similarly the case with China.

One place i always wanted to visit in KSA, but i never could, was the Farasan Island. It looked better than maldives in the pictures. However, the Yemen war was in full swing back than and Jizan was a somewhat dangerous place those days.

I believe If Pakistan were to deploy troops under the mutual defence pact with Saudi Arabia, the most likely placement would be along the Saudi–Jordanian border ( near Al-Haditha or Al Qurayyat). Troop deployment there would provide depth to Saudi Arabia’s northern defence posture, and as it sits at the crossroads of key supply routes linking the Red Sea to the interior of the Arabian Peninsula. It would also help deter any potential threats arising from Israel’s long-standing designs on the Jordan Valley.

 

[atmi_bum]

The only delusional state left in the region is India. Over the past four months, Modi has been caught with his pants down numerous times. Not a single country, including India’s closest allies, implicated Pakistan in the Pahalgam attacks. Unlike during the Mumbai incident, New Delhi couldn’t even manage to get Pakistan named in joint statements or press briefings this time around.

The QUAD is failing, U.S. India relations are in a downward spiral, China is already building an bases in Bangladesh, and now India’s largest energy partner, Saudi Arabia, has signed a mutual defence pact with its biggest adversary. Talk about robust relations. Apart from probably Russia, maybe Israel , India has none left.

The mutual defence pact is meaningless and doesn't impact India at all. If you think it does, you are still delusional. This pact is a one-way deal for Saudi Arabia. It will use Pakistan to defend itself: its soldiers, its equipment, and its nukes. What will Saudi Arabia do for Pakistan?

Please stop making me laugh.

 

[Bilal]

Please give me this drug

The Wrath of bhaand.

 

[Cash gk]

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[Goenitz]

According to this agreement, Saudi Arabia has indirectly become a nuclear power. Do you agree with this opinion

naah... it mustn't be highlighted. At max, combine new rocket force, cyber and satellite cooperation. N word mustn't appear anywhere.

 

[mabubakar]

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Indian diaspora in Gulf being used to threaten KSA by indian deep state media. Interesting.

I read somewhere Saudi Arab and Iraq have already stopped supplying Oil to few Indian companies so not sure if this threat is valid any more

 

[Uzair Khan]

At the risk of increasing some people's stress to heart attack levels, I will say that what has happened is that Pakistan has just signed on to be an active participant in what is called Armageddon by Christians and Al-Malhama Al-Kubra by Muslims. I welcome it.

The Jews have been planning world domination for centuries. They've managed to take over the Christian West and create Israel. There's a clear trajectory of their rising control over America, from just after WW2 when ships with Jews were turned back to now when their control is 100%. Only a few days ago on Judge Napolitano's show Max Blumenthal said that Trump is scared s**tless of Netanyahu. They spy on him and can eliminate him if he doesn’t do what he’s told. That’s how much control they have over the US.

Having enslaved the US and, therefore, the whole West, Netanyahu is going for broke. He's been able to mostly destroy Hamas, Hezbollah, and softened up Iran. With three years of Trump remaining he thinks that it's now or never to go for Greater Israel. Their prophecies say that the Jews will rule the world.

With the centuries of hard work, and seeing their destination so close, the Jews are not going to just abandon it all because Pakistan and Saudi Arabia signed a deal. They're going to try to come up with a plan to deal with it and keep moving forward with their plan.

So, whether we like it or not, WW3 is coming just like it has been prophesied. It is a battle between the Romans (West/NATO) and Muslims. And now Pakistan is going to be in the thick of it.

I welcome it because if we are Muslims then we must do our bit.

I dont know whether this would happen or not but i would like to say how great that airforce would be and how beautiful those jets would be which would fly from king faisal airbase to protect Al-Quds. This is exactly what King Faisal would have also wanted but these are v far fecthed dreams in muslim ummah where in most countries there are zionist bootlickers and the ones talking about jihad all the time are so out of touch with Islam that they are much more interested in blowing up fellow muslim's masajids(Point to note currently TTP has kept this on pause a little to improve public perception).

 

[Watandar]

According to this agreement, Saudi Arabia has indirectly become a nuclear power. Do you agree with this opinion

I hope not. Saudi bankrolled Pakistani nuke program but as one of many foreign ventures. It was Pakistan that did all the work and took all the risk. Declaring Saudi Arabia a nuke power because of agreement with Pakistan would greatly increase that risk and Israelis would place Pakistan much higher in the threat category than now. We know what that will eventually bring.

 

[_Arabia_]

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Indian diaspora in Gulf being used to threaten KSA by indian deep state media. Interesting.

Is Indian media retarded? Guess the answer is yes. Which "defence contracts" are they blabbering about? There are none from what I am aware of to begin with and there were never any to begin with.

I repeat, KSA has had (since forever) the economic advantage in this relationship (which the trade balance showcases for all to see) and Indian labour (of which majority is Muslim and wants to stay, lol, if given the opportunity most of them would prefer to stay permanently to begin with rather than going back to India) can easily be replaced. There are no shortages of 500 + million Arabs, almost 2 billion Muslims and even an increasingly bigger and bigger Western, Chinese and what not community in the GCC that could replace them with no problem at all. Not to mention future AI, robots etc. will change the job markets completely everywhere. Not to mention that almost all expats in KSA and the GCC are hired by private firms (for monetary reasons alone) and not the state. In many ways to the detriment of many locals who despite being well-educated and attaining degrees (home and abroad) are often "dumped" on the job market in favour of cheaper foreign labour (private sector).

India has much more to lose, no comparison at all. Besides not sure why some Indians are crying unless they were dreaming about/planning to harm KSA and Pakistan. If not the case, they should have no problem with this agreement which is purely defensive in nature and in no way (at least from the part of KSA) threatens India or anybody else.

 

[Cash gk]

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[Bilal]

Is Indian media retarded? Guess the answer is yes. Which "defence contracts" are they blabbering about? There are none from what I am aware of to begin with and there were never any to begin with.

I repeat, KSA has had (since forever) the economic advantage in this relationship (which the trade balance showcases for all to see) and Indian labour (of which majority is Muslim and wants to stay, lol, if given the opportunity most of them would prefer to stay permanently to begin with rather than going back to India) can easily be replaced. There are no shortages of 500 + million Arabs, almost 2 billion Muslims and even an increasingly bigger and bigger Western, Chinese and what not community in the GCC that could replace them with no problem at all. Not to mention future AI, robots etc. will change the job markets completely everywhere. Not to mention that almost all expats in KSA and the GCC are hired by private firms (for monetary reasons alone) and not the state. In many ways to the detriment of many locals who despite being well-educated and attaining degrees (home and abroad) are often "dumped" on the job market in favour of cheaper foreign labour (private sector).

India has much more to lose, no comparison at all. Besides not sure why some Indians are crying unless they were dreaming about/planning to harm KSA and Pakistan. If not the case, they should have no problem with this agreement which is purely defensive in nature and in no way (at least from the part of KSA) threatens India or anybody else.

They suffer from delusion of grandeur.