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BonPlan said:
7-0 ....

This is about the so called 0 :

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AEW&CS destroyed at Bholari Airbase, confirmation.
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Probably they don't differentiate between Apples and Oranges in France, but the world outside France is a sane place and thinks logically.

And since I know I am addressing Rakesh, I'll recruit my 6 year old niece's help to write in a way you can understand, though I don't have any hopes of accomplishing that, but I'll still give it a try. 7-0 refers to Air Battle, what PAF shot down 7 IAF jets including 4 French Made Rafales, where as IAF failed to achieve anything in Air Battle, they actually were not even able to fire a single air to air missile.

The video you embedded in your post refers to damage to surface targets, if you want to compare the performance in that dimension, then please refer to the admissions by Indian military sources that disclosed in their media briefs that Pakistan hit and damaged 26 of their bases.
 
Gripen9 said:
14 aircraft were hit during the air battle. PAF has claimed 7 confirmed (+1 Heron MALE Drone). Remainder most probably were proximity hits resulting in extensive damage but not outright destruction. Most made it back but some may not be airworthy and need to be scrapped.

Remainder of his claim of destruction on the ground is due to airstrikes/suicide drones/rockets launched on 10th during BuM. Short of sat images of burning airframes on the ground, this cannot be corroborated.
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Since we are Pakistanis and unlike Indians not afraid to discuss the facts openly, if we hit 14 Indian aircraft and only 7 came down (got destroyed in the air) and the remaining 7 were able to make it back to the base in whatever condition, the big questions that come to my mind are,

1. Is the warhead in PL15 not big enough to destroy the target fully?

2. Is the proximity switch in PL15 setup to detonate the warhead at a greater distance from the target, thus not destroying the target fully?

3. Did we fire at the Indian jets at the max ranges when they were running away, hence not being hit in the critical areas to bring them down immediately?
 
kimjongun said:
Yall might come at me but we should focus more on the Indian strikes at our airbases and what can we learn from it rather then continuously focusing on the may 7 battle in which we came victorious shaming the IAF in the air....

Now we should focus on how to counter the multiple types of stand off weapons used by the IAF like the scalp , rampage , brahmos and their newer inductions...Making our enemy remind again and again that they lost in the air is very good but accepting that our response was very small and we suffered damages in the attacks should be done...

We should discuss the lower accuracy of the fatah 1 and how to counter indian workhorse systems like the barak 8 cuz it is a bigger threat then the s400...the number of interceptors in the barak 8 battery is larger then the s400...and was the one that probably intercepted most of the fatahs that were intercepted...how the yiha 1 performed junk as compared to the israeli harop(more expensive tho)...we should note that more info from either the IAF OR PAF isn't coming anytime soon the last chances were independence days and 6th sep...

We should be filling the lapses in our AD and give room to healthy debates and conversations rather then indian forums that jump straight to religion and calling others subhuman...that should be the main difference between us and them...

i hope you all would understand what im trying to say...i could be wrong in some of my points but lets just skip the fan glazing and talk about actual facts that are in public domain...
@Oscar , @Mighty_Dragon_Strike ,@side-winder, @arslank01 ,@Yasser76, @RajaBaja @Ali_Baba, @TAC , @aurelianpilled, @Quwa ,@RafaleSlayer ,@SABRE
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Welcome to the world of modern warfare where strike munitions do exactly what they are meant to do.

Oh - you didn't have a dedicated rocket force ready to go in time to deliver a proportional attack? I guess that's what happens when an army is busy for a couple years suppressing people at home instead.
 
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I think Indus Viper will be held next year........maybe we will see more of Saudi units?
 
arslank01 said:
yes- camm-er or iris t probably, but leaning towards camm-er
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Procured or just ordered? if these systems are in Pakistan that would be an exceptionally fast delivery time.
 
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