First specs of Turkish AC project

[FuturePAF]

Does it make sense to build AC without geographic ocean access, only for Mediterranean Sea?

If they can get through Suez, the Carrier can operate in the Red Sea and Indian Ocean region. Turkey has a relationship with Qatar, as pointed out in MMM-E’s post. Helping to protect Qatar’s SLOCs from any potential Blockade can be a lucrative arrangement for the Turkish Navy.

 

[FuturePAF]

Turkey's role is expanding around the Gulf of Aden, around somalia, where there is a space launch port to be built as well as a deal to help somalia secure its naval interests in exchange for oil and gas exploration in the Somali EEZ, of which 30% of the profits of oil and gas exploration apparently go to Turkey.

Kismayo on the Equator and somewhere on the Pakistani coast would be perfect for Geostationary and Polar orbits, respectively.

Hopefully Turkey can negotiate (with possible backing with Qatari money) to help stabilize (negotiate a deal between the government and rebels) and develop Somalia.

Qatar is world class in gas supply chain, and can help with “diplomatic support” in exchange for a share of the gas revenue. A Qatari base at Kismayo, on the equator could also help get Qatar ahead in the GCC space race. Dubai may have the Burj Khalifa (with no Sewage system ) but if the Qataris have the means to launch something like SpaceX’s Starship…it’s gonna really put them on the technological map.



Back to the carrier, protecting expanding businesses will be vital to sustaining grow in a multipolar world.

 

[LegionnairE]

I've done nothing but treated you with respect, also it wasn't myself who deleted your posts, however there was nothing wrong with it.

So who deleted my posts waz? who? I asked you one quesiton, a simple one.


I write post after post after post answering everybody just for the idiot hyperman to come and delete it. Why can't he defend himself like a man? Are you his lawyer?

I've stuck up for you plenty of times (people warned me against this) and this is what I get in return.

It seems you've made "sticking up for people" your habit

 

[LegionnairE]

If Turkey is building naval bases in Somalia, this is something The Pakistani Navy should look to join as well. Considering the location of Indian bases in the region, and India’s demonstrated hostility to Turkey (not saying Turkey isn’t hostile to India, but at present there are hostilities), and that dozens of Pakistani Soldiers have laid down their lives back in ‘92 to help restore some kind of stable government, the three countries should work together to build and man naval bases in Somalia. A Non-western, non-Chinese base that stays out of the new Cold War and focuses on the interests of the three nations.

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I'm watching with great interest if these Pakistan India related posts will be deleted

 

[MMM-E]

Turkiye to provide maritime security support to Somalia​

Turkiye will provide maritime security support to Somalia to help the African country defend its territorial water

Turkiye and Somalia signed a defence and economic cooperation agreement earlier this month during Somali defence minister's visit to Ankara.

The pact is seen as Türkiye’s critical contribution to enhancing peace and security in Somalia and the Horn of Africa region.


Türkiye has its largest embassy in Africa in Mogadishu and also built its largest overseas military facility there to train the Somali national army.

https://www.reuters.com/world/turkey-provide-maritime-security-support-somalia-official-2024-02-22/

 

[Shawnee]

Turkey's role is expanding around the Gulf of Aden, around somalia, where there is a space launch port to be built as well as a deal to help somalia secure its naval interests in exchange for oil and gas exploration in the Somali EEZ, of which 30% of the profits of oil and gas exploration apparently go to Turkey.

AC for Somalia is overkill.

Assuming Turkish AC will be safe close to Egypt and Israel and all the way to Qatar, is dangerous.

Honestly it is a target.

Gibraltar is not much better either when the time comes.

 

[LegionnairE]

AC for Somalia is overkill.

Assuming Turkish AC will be safe close to Egypt and Israel and all the way to Qatar, is dangerous.

Honestly it is a target.

Gibraltar is not much better either when the time comes.

Turkey could easily secure an air base in Somalia. that would be unsinkable.

I wrote a few posts making these points but they got deleted.

 

[MMM-E]

AC for Somalia is overkill.

Assuming Turkish AC will be safe close to Egypt and Israel and all the way to Qatar, is dangerous.
Honestly it is a target.
Gibraltar is not much better either when the time comes.

Turkiye needs power projection for Qatar , Somalia , Libya , Eastern Mediterranean


for example
enemy Forces can deploy AC in the Eastern Mediterranean to occupy Turkish EEZ and declare it as Greek EEZ

and Turkiye can deploy AC to protect its EEZ and AC is located at the border of that region of EEZ and does not let anyone in



The Carrier Strike Group can protect itself with
TF-2000 class Destroyers
ISTIF or AS-3600 class Frigates
TYPE-214TN or MILDEN class AIP Submarines
Unmanned combat and kamikaze Vessels like CAKA , ULAQ , MARLIN
Unmanned Submarines
Unmanned strealth Fighter Jets like KIZILELMA and ANKA-4


Also if needed , Turkish Air Force with KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jets will provide extra air support to the Carrier Strike Group İn the Eastern Mediterranean

in the next 10 years , Turkish Armed Forces will dominate the region with these projects AC , TCG ANADOLU , TF-2000 , ISTIF , TYPE-214TN , MILDEN , KAAN , KIZILELMA , ANKA-3/4 , etc

 

[LegionnairE]

Turkiye needs power projection for Qatar , Somalia , Libya , Eastern Mediterranean
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for example
enemy Forces can deploy AC in the Eastern Mediterranean to occupy Turkish EEZ and declare it as Greek EEZ

and Turkiye can deploy AC to protect its EEZ and AC is located at the border of that region of EEZ and does not let anyone in
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The Carrier Strike Group can protect itself with
TF-2000 class Destroyers
ISTIF or AS-3600 class Frigates
TYPE-214TN or MILDEN class AIP Submarines
Unmanned combat and kamikaze Vessels like CAKA , ULAQ , MARLIN
Unmanned Submarines
Unmanned strealth Fighter Jets like KIZILELMA and ANKA-4


Also if needed , Turkish Air Force with KAAN 5th gen Fighter Jets will provide extra air support to the Carrier Strike Group İn the Eastern Mediterranean

in the next 10 years , Turkish Armed Forces will dominate the region with these projects AC , TCG ANADOLU , TF-2000 , ISTIF , TYPE-214TN , MILDEN , KAAN , KIZILELMA , ANKA-3/4 , etc

We can have air bases in all those countries, Where we can send planes in hours instead of days.

The problem is WE DON'T HAVE PLANES. We don't have POWER to project.

We don't have 600 F35s, we have 240 F16s. We're not America.

 

[Waz]

So who deleted my posts waz? who? I asked you one quesiton, a simple one.


I write post after post after post answering everybody just for the idiot hyperman to come and delete it. Why can't he defend himself like a man? Are you his lawyer?


It seems you've made "sticking up for people" your habit

Well the moderator did.
@hyperman is not an idiot and has brought order and calm here. It would be nice if you also join in this collective but you seem to be debating me on non-issue we can solve between us.
Yes me 'sticking up for people' is a great trait and something you have benefited from a fair few times.

 

[Waz]

I would write a very interesting post about why Cyprus is a much better candidate but I have to make sure some RETARD doesn't come in and delete it first.

Go ahead and write it no problem here, it relates to Turkey direct as does the Somalia thing.

 

[MMM-E]

We can have air bases in all those countries, Where we can send planes in hours instead of days.

We can not deploy power projection with Fighter Jets
and We can not have Air Bases in all those Countries
for example Libya

They hit Al Watiya Air Base
because of Libya is a desert land to allow enemy Fighter Jets for flight at low altitude
also there will be risk attack from Ground Forces


and Fighter Jets can not stay in the Air 7/24 to protect EEZ in the Eastern Mediterranean
if France send Air Craft Carrier to near of Crete to block Turkish Air Force to arrive Libya
what will you do ?


And Power projection = Navy
Carrier Strike Group including AC play an important role in modern power projection


The ability of a state to project its power into an area may serve as an effective diplomatic lever, influencing the decision-making processes and acting as a potential deterrent on other states behavior

 

[MMM-E]

The problem is WE DON'T HAVE PLANES. We don't have POWER to project.

We don't have 600 F35s, we have 240 F16s. We're not America.

We dont need 600 F-35

Our Aircraft Carrier will carry max 40 Fighter Jets ...
and we can use Unmanned stealth Fighter Jets like KIZILELMA-C and ANKA-4 on Aircraft Carrier

France ,The UK , İtaly , S.Korea also are not America
but They have Aircarft Carrier ..... why not Turkiye in 2035 ?


Turkiye is not Greece or Israel
For a country like Turkiye needs Aicraft Carrier for power projection which has a sphere of influence from the Adriatic and Libya to the Indian Ocean


Your level and vision are not enough to understand this as like who called the first part of KAAN as a radiator

 

[FuturePAF]

I'm watching with great interest if these Pakistan India related posts will be deleted

It’s possible, it I’m trying to tie in Pakistan (and it’s expanding navy) to what Turkey is doing in a region Pakistan already operates in. It’s not completely off topic, so let’s see what the moderators decide.

 

[FuturePAF]

We dont need 600 F-35

Our Aircraft Carrier will carry max 40 Fighter Jets ...
and we can use Unmanned stealth Fighter Jets like KIZILELMA-C and ANKA-4 on Aircraft Carrier

France ,The UK , İtaly , S.Korea also are not America
but They have Aircarft Carrier ..... why not Turkiye in 2035 ?


Turkiye is not Greece or Israel
For a country like Turkiye needs Aicraft Carrier for power projection which has a sphere of influence from the Adriatic and Libya to the Indian Ocean


Your level and vision are not enough to understand this as like who called the first part of KAAN as a radiator

Also if Turkey builds land bases (in Libya, Qatar, and Somalia), it can support its 40 carrier based fighters with land based assets.