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CallSignMaverick said:
Rafales meanwhile can be easily destroyed in their hangars
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History tells us otherwise. As far as "Easily" goes, this part of your statement is correct to some extent but in "their hangars" part is wrong. In any case it does not make any difference, in the air or in the hanger, the woman or the man inside that jet wouldn't know what hit their jet.

As long as you keep denying and keep doing what you are doing we should be fine, strange you are so incompetent and pathetic that you cannot make a 7 times smaller highly corrupt country bend its knees to you .. speaks volumes about you.
 
I*R*A said:
History tells us otherwise. As far as "Easily" goes, this part of your statement is correct to some extent but in "their hangars" part is wrong. In any case it does not make any difference, in the air or in the hanger, the woman or the man inside that jet wouldn't know what hit their jet.

As long as you keep denying and keep doing what you are doing we should be fine, strange you are so incompetent and pathetic that you cannot make a 7 times smaller highly corrupt country bend its knees to you .. speaks volumes about you.
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Absolutely, that's what I mentioned. PAF can smash IAF whenever it wants. Ra-fails are useless, next time score would be 60-0 against IAF.

Focus should be on Teja samosa.
 
CallSignMaverick said:
Absolutely, that's what I mentioned. PAF can smash IAF whenever it wants. Ra-fails are useless, next time score would be 60-0 against IAF.

Focus should be on Teja samosa.
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Next time? Does india still wish to remain an aggressor? This much is very evident PAF is a defensive force, so next time can only be possible if india initiates it again.
 
harpy1 said:
Close the thread if these guys are talking rubbish I assumed this was credible defense site ..
Obviously not
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What to discuss here? A threat we've already neutralized 4 times in May? And in that process we ended up grounding the entire IAF for the remainder of the conflict?

I guess what should be discussed is how India doesn't need Rafale's, it needs a super duper platform that won't fall out of the skies like Rafale did.
 
Indians think too much of themselves. India and Rafale got neutralised in broad daylight. As we continue to work with Qatar and KSA, we will learn more. This is only the beginning.
 
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well.known source some really good points

Both the battle between Indian air force desire for Rafale and fewer platforms types
Versus Indian govt red tape and desire to keep all countries happy through multiple deals from different nations

Pakistan has a net centric edge

Pakistan future fleet components

Why Quwa hopes India buys Su57 and not More Rafales
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The place is a threat in the right-hands.
With IAF it's more of a liability abd embarrassment for the French.

For example zero Meteor were fired that day
 
CallSignMaverick said:
Idk the jaish guy was very angry with masood's family getting blown apart, has earlier said more attacks were underway, so who knows what next false flag the hindutva rss mudi fascist sanghis do.
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india should feel proud for killing innocent families. The natural reaction to killing of someone's family would be to kill the murderer, what did indians expect? Praises?.

As I said if india and indians keep doing what they are doing, we will be fine. Aftre modi 10 to 15 years of yogi are mandatory for that.
 
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Here Comes the destroyer and killer of 20,j 35 ,f 35 . only f 22 could have a slight chance. As indians are the expert driver on su series. They have a legacy
 
Rafale is not the challenge

Pak's has less 4.5 Gen jets, that's the problem

and, in future, Pak. cannot acquire more, why:

1. 2B $ for 20 J 20 CE
2. 30 to 40 $M for JF 17 Block 3 (which has no significant advantage over Rafale at lower height)

so, with obsolete Mirages and JF17s forming 50 to 60% of the fleet.

Gap due to financial constraints, is too huge to be filled!

think of it like this..

around 300 3rd gen tech jets to be replaced by 100 4.5 gen (argument sake!)

those, 100 4.5 jets will cost 10$B!

which we dont and wont have!

not even considering, force multipliers and 5th gen for now!
 
Mighty_Dragon_Strike said:
Rafale is not the challenge

Pak's has less 4.5 Gen jets, that's the problem

and, in future, Pak. cannot acquire more, why:

1. 2B $ for 20 J 20 CE
2. 30 to 40 $M for JF 17 Block 3 (which has no significant advantage over Rafale at lower height)

so, with obsolete Mirages and JF17s forming 50 to 60% of the fleet.

Gap due to financial constraints, is too huge to be filled!

think of it like this..

around 300 3rd gen tech jets to be replaced by 100 4.5 gen (argument sake!)

those, 100 4.5 jets will cost 10$B!

which we dont and wont have!

not even considering, force multipliers and 5th gen for now!
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Saudi factor considered?
 
The point that Quwa are making which all of you mostly missed was the on going battle between

iaf wanting just three platforms in large no's with full network centric real time integrated system ..
Versus
Govt red tape multi platform systems ordered by modi to appease Russia USA France etc and there fore not effective air force in battle .

Quwa are saying if the air force gets there way and option one is taken this is very potent threat regardless
Of few J35 or j10 coming

This will be decided in next few months
 
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