Trump ally Charlie Kirk shot at campus event in Utah

[Agnostic Muslim]

Over 200,000 people in attendance disagree with you.

So the 200,000 attendees at a racists funeral represent a makority of Americans, do they?

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

I have no dog in this debate, not a US citizen nor a US immigrant, but I will say this... Whatever the differences. Taking someone's life because you disagree with their brand of politics is never okay.

I don’t see that as being a point of disagreement - the disagreement is over the punitive State led repression of critics of a racist, hate-monger and so called ‘respect for Kirk’ being shoved down our throats.

 

[RescueRanger]

I don’t see that as being a point of disagreement - the disagreement is over the punitive State led repression of critics of the racist, hate-monger being eulogized and ao called ‘respect for Kirk’ being shoved down our throats.

Alas its sad what has become of America.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

His increasing disapproval of Israel has nothing to do with his hatred of Muslims.

He hated Muslims til his dying breath.

Also, Ali Dawah is kind of a clown. I dont take him seriously.

I won't let more clowns claiming to be Muslims try and excuse his hatred. Too many Muslims think they have more in common with white racists than they do with other minorities.

It's actually SHOCKING that many Muslims believe that charlie kirk was turning against israel. Even if he was, would israel care? Most of the whole world is against israel and the Gaza genocide yet the israelis still carry on. Would charlie kirk HONESTLY make a difference?

charlie kirk was an ARDENT, VICIFEROUS Islamaphobe till his dying breath who worshipped israel. charlie kirk was getting too popular with maga and was a political threat to trump. You can draw your conclusions from that. The israel motive for his death is a red herring.

 

[j_hungary]

Not sure if you have been following Charlie kirk assassination on social media since main stream is only showing government narrative but almost every other channel is pointing finger at Israel. Infact Tucker openly blamed Israel at Kirk's memorial in conservative crowd. Thats because there is evidence of Kirk having second opinion on Israel.
This is not about gora validation thing but the fact that even a hard liner conservative like Kirk was slowly turning against Israel. If maj Gurav comes out tomorrow and says Palgam attack was an inside job and Kashmiris have right to their own land and dies the next day to me he will be a hero even though he had shitty past.

You need to understand, conservatives hate EVERYONE that's not one of them. I was a conservative myself, my entire family is, and hating Jews and hating Muslims is not an exclusive event. Anyone, not just conservatives, can and do hate both

And most of these talking heads are just following their talking point, it's naive and honestly stupid to think far right figures like Kirk are pro-Muslim.........

 

[PakFactor]

Alas its sad what has become of America.

It's Trump America, redefined, and will be here to stay.

 

[flyingorca]

You need to understand, conservatives hate EVERYONE that's not one of them. I was a conservative myself, my entire family is, and hating Jews and hating Muslims is not an exclusive event. Anyone, not just conservatives, can and do hate both

And most of these talking heads are just following their talking point, it's naive and honestly stupid to think far right figures like Kirk are pro-Muslim.........

Not all conservative are the same. Some hate both some question Israel and some are pro israel. I have notice alot of conservative have turned against Israel after Kirk's death.

 

[That_Guy]

Since you keep bringing religion then do know that there are plenty of examples in Islam where people initially not only rejected our prophet's message but even abused him and later became muslims. Not suggesting that kirk was gonna become muslim but most likely would have turned against Israel. Go watch his interview where he said that he has to be careful with his words when being critical of Israel and this is just few weeks before his death. Recently Kirk was labeled antisemitic by Jewish lobby for merely questioning Israel.
So do you seriously think he was shot by lone gunmen and Israel was not involved?
Tucker has been accused of antisemitism after his speech against Israel so what the heck are you talking about? Do you expect every American to say I love Muslims only then they can be considered as not racist?
The only thing I agree with conservatives are two things, gender and immigration and no open border. Just like Iran and Pakistan has kicked out millions of Afghans, America should also kick out illegal immigrants specifically those who cause trouble.

I am not bringing religion.

I am stating Charlie Kirk's opinions on Islam and Muslims.

I call Charlie Kirk racist, not just because he hated Muslims and Islam, but because he considered anyone who isn't white to be inferior.

You're moving the goal post precisely because you can't defend your points.

Stop defending a fascist who would encourage and then justify the murder of your family, simply because you aren't white or christian.

 

[That_Guy]

Not all conservative are the same. Some hate both some question Israel and some are pro israel. I have notice alot of conservative have turned against Israel after Kirk's death.

News flash, conservative Christians have always hated Jews and Israel. The dominionist-evangelicals only "support" Israel, because they think Jesus is going to come back once Israel establishes the Third temple, and kill all the non-Christians (starting with Jews), starting the end-times. America has been taken over by this death cult. It's these foolish Christians that fund AIPAC, and go fight for Israel, because they want the world to end.

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

Not all conservative are the same. Some hate both some question Israel and some are pro israel. I have notice alot of conservative have turned against Israel after Kirk's death.

Have you looked at the poll numbers on how many conservatives continue to support Israel and ignore its war crimes and genocide?

The lack of humanity and sympathy for victims when confronted by hard evidence of Israel’s crimes … I can only chalk it down to an irrational dislike (if not outright hatred) of the ‘other’.

 

[Agnostic Muslim]

News flash, conservative Christians have always hated Jews and Israel. The dominionist-evangelicals only "support" Israel, because they think Jesus is going to come back once Israel establishes the Third temple, and kill all the non-Christians (starting with Jews), starting the end-times. America has been taken over by this death cult. It's these foolish Christians that fund AIPAC, and go fight for Israel, because they want the world to end.

It would be interesting to see if money and resources were supplied by American Zionists/Israeli lobby to Evangelicals in the early days to preach and mainstream this Judeo-Christian nonsense and make Israel integral to the ‘faith’.

 

[Starlord]

You need to understand, conservatives hate EVERYONE that's not one of them. I was a conservative myself, my entire family is, and hating Jews and hating Muslims is not an exclusive event. Anyone, not just conservatives, can and do hate both

And most of these talking heads are just following their talking point, it's naive and honestly stupid to think far right figures like Kirk are pro-Muslim.........

Honestly some right wingers don't even know why they hate a group of people, they just hate it because that group doesn't look like them, take Arab Christians as example they don't give a crap about the Arab Christians been killed by Israeli forces, and turn the goal posts to Khamas saying that they are to blame, when Christians were living in Gaza, they had their Churches, and in fact most of the history shows that under Muslim Rule all 3 communities lives in Peace, the most important Church in Holy land the key is still held by a Muslim family...

American Right wing Politics and speakers are groomed from very early age and offer trips to Israel for Free, what many call " Propaganda Tours ". Basically the Right wing hate Jews and Jews like George Soro's and blame to push the LGBTQ and Trans Agenda, and also hate the billionaire Jews but the same Jews when fund a Genocide against the People of Gaza, steal land and even kill Christians/Destroy Churches the Evangelicals brush it under the Rug, make up your damn mind who you hate and why?

 

[Starlord]

It would be interesting to see if money and resources were supplied by American Zionists/Israeli lobby to Evangelicals in the early days to preach and mainstream this Judeo-Christian nonsense and make Israel integral to the ‘faith’.

I won't be surprised, the biggest supporters of Israel are Evangelical Christians, and white Christians who like That_Guy said basically waiting for Jews to build the Third temple so their Texas Messiah can show up for Rapture, fun FACT that the word Rapture is not mentioned in bible only a similar concept exists which is also a far stretch, just like the Trinity doesn't exist in the bible.
these mega churches and their pastors hold their congregation close, did not encourage them to study their own faith, you will see people like Ted Cruz on Tucker Carlson quoting Bible saying God loves/support those who loves/support Israel, and Tucker Carlson mention it to him that its the wrong interpretation of the verse but Ted Cruz don't care, I doubt he is smart enough to critically analyze Christianity as a religion. Modern day Christianity and specially Evangelical Christian movement is funded/shaped/nurture by the Zionists just so they hold America by the B@lls because whether one like to admit or not, smart people know how to use the religious brain washing to their benefit, Zionists know that they will use the Christian voter for their benefit by selling the Churan of Rapture which is not part of Christianity, and they get mad if you try to explain it to them just like Christians get upset when you wish them Happy Christmas rather than saying Merry Christmas.

 

[delta2]

I watched the one film no less than a dozen times. That was definitely an exit wound out the throat. The way he was gushing blood, death would have been within a minute or two. No more than 5 minutes.

So mostly anyone who has served in the military or the police or the medical field can now see what happened!

So they all know that was an exit wound, what would be on those peoples' mind now?

 

[delta2]

It's actually SHOCKING that many Muslims believe that charlie kirk was turning against israel. Even if he was, would israel care? Most of the whole world is against israel and the Gaza genocide yet the israelis still carry on. Would charlie kirk HONESTLY make a difference?

charlie kirk was an ARDENT, VICIFEROUS Islamaphobe till his dying breath who worshipped israel. charlie kirk was getting too popular with maga and was a political threat to trump. You can draw your conclusions from that. The israel motive for his death is a red herring.

EXACTLY!!

Kirk would have not endorsed Vance as a presidential candidate and he would definitely not accept any one of Trump's kids as a presidential candidate.

Kirk was a grifter turned into a political force.