Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

There is a potential internal threat to at least one of the The Two Holy Mosques, for which Pakistan's help may once again be needed by Saudi Arabia . This internal threat while understood by both Saudi Arabia and Pakistan has received little attention in the international media.

There are 2.5 million largely Hindu Indian ex-pat laborers resident in Saudi Arabia.. With the rise of global Hindutva these are a dangerous de-stabilizing factor. The situation could potentially develop into much like the Sri Lankan Tamils who were brought into Sri Lanka as plantation laborers and later on became a force of their own. The Hindu Indian diaspora once concerned solely towards employment and remittances is now infected with Hindutva exceptionalism. While cultural aggressiveness in Western countries is limited to displays of religious processions, festivals and "no beef " demands there are no overtly religious factors associated with disputed or claimed houses of worship. Saudi Arabia is different. In a warped state sponsored manipulation of wording and interpretation of mythology, a sizable majority of Indian Hindus are now openly laying claim to the Kaaba.
Social media viral messages now circulating are claiming the Kaaba Holy mosque as a Hindu temple to Lord Shiva as Makkeshwar. The Hijr Aswad is being portrayed as a Shiv Ling.
A background:
The current Hindutva ideology is to claim the site of every significant mosque as a former Hindu temple calling for a "Survey ". In 1992 a 16th century Babri mosque in Northern India was demolished by a mob of just 250,000 in the full presence of heavily armed police and paramilitary personnel despite a Supreme Court ruling to preserve the status quo. .In the pre-Internet social-media era it took three years to build up the religious frenzy supported and financed by the global Indian diaspora with a complex build uo of propaganda using posters, multiple rallies, processions, street corner speeches print media and TV networks .
Today with the help of mobile device supported social media this state of mob frenzy can be replicated far more easily in any country of choice.
A social media generated uprising of ex-pat labor to capture the Kaaba shrine and rename it is not far that fetched. Mecca has been captured before and the Hijr Aswad stolen . This happened when the Qarmatians captured and sacked Mecca in 930 C.E. There was no Hajj for decades until the Qarmatians were driven out and the Hijr Aswad recovered.
The good news is that a Pakistani contingent can easily beat off an ex-pat uprising. if India wishes to avenge any losses to its expat labor by opening another front against Pakistan, then the Defence pact clause "attack on one is an attack on both " will come into effect.

@Master Chief . @Yasser76 , @harpy1
 
There is a potential internal threat to at least one of the The Two Holy Mosques, for which Pakistan's help may once again be needed by Saudi Arabia . This internal threat while understood by both Saudi Arabia and Pakistan has received little attention in the international media.

There are 2.5 million largely Hindu Indian ex-pat laborers resident in Saudi Arabia.. With the rise of global Hindutva these are a dangerous de-stabilizing factor. The situation could potentially develop into much like the Sri Lankan Tamils who were brought into Sri Lanka as plantation laborers and later on became a force of their own. The Hindu Indian diaspora once concerned solely towards employment and remittances is now infected with Hindutva exceptionalism. While cultural aggressiveness in Western countries is limited to displays of religious processions, festivals and "no beef " demands there are no overtly religious factors associated with disputed or claimed houses of worship. Saudi Arabia is different. In a warped state sponsored manipulation of wording and interpretation of mythology, a sizable majority of Indian Hindus are now openly laying claim to the Kaaba.
Social media viral messages now circulating are claiming the Kaaba Holy mosque as a Hindu temple to Lord Shiva as Makkeshwar. The Hijr Aswad is being portrayed as a Shiv Ling.
A background:
The current Hindutva ideology is to claim the site of every significant mosque as a former Hindu temple calling for a "Survey ". In 1992 a 16th century Babri mosque in Northern India was demolished by a mob of just 250,000 in the full presence of heavily armed police and paramilitary personnel despite a Supreme Court ruling to preserve the status quo. .In the pre-Internet social-media era it took three years to build up the religious frenzy supported and financed by the global Indian diaspora with a complex build uo of propaganda using posters, multiple rallies, processions, street corner speeches print media and TV networks .
Today with the help of mobile device supported social media this state of mob frenzy can be replicated far more easily in any country of choice.
A social media generated uprising of ex-pat labor to capture the Kaaba shrine and rename it is not far that fetched. Mecca has been captured before and the Hijr Aswad stolen . This happened when the Qarmatians captured and sacked Mecca in 930 C.E. There was no Hajj for decades until the Qarmatians were driven out and the Hijr Aswad recovered.
The good news is that a Pakistani contingent can easily beat off an ex-pat uprising. if India wishes to avenge any losses to its expat labor by opening another front against Pakistan, then the Defence pact clause "attack on one is an attack on both " will come into effect.

@Master Chief . @Yasser76 , @harpy1
Man time for you to turn off the phone and go touch some grass.
 
KSA can only blame its own self if it allows Nijs people to enter the 2 holy cities and areas around the mosques. There was absolutely NO NEED AT ALL to allow any non-muslims into the 2 holy cities. Its becoming a joke now with all types doing their tourist shit and making stupid vlogs to post online. Makes my blood boil to see non-muslims in Makkah and Madina!
If anything bad happens they(saudis) can only blame themselves!!

If they still don't purge all these indian hindutvas and other RAW/Mossad/Cia/Mi5 from the holy lands, then they are deliberately inviting troubles to their country.
 
KSA can only blame its own self if it allows Nijs people to enter the 2 holy cities and areas around the mosques. There was absolutely NO NEED AT ALL to allow any non-muslims into the 2 holy cities. Its becoming a joke now with all types doing their tourist shit and making stupid vlogs to post online. Makes my blood boil to see non-muslims in Makkah and Madina!
If anything bad happens they(saudis) can only blame themselves!!

If they still don't purge all these indian hindutvas and other RAW/Mossad/Cia/Mi5 from the holy lands, then they are deliberately inviting troubles to their country.
Pakistan's guarantee as a co-protector of the Two Holy Mosques may soon be put to the test once more. This maybe a much more strenuous task than the previous occasion.
Those of the Abrahamic faiths ( the Common Word ) are not a threat. It is the global foot print of Hindutva now infecting the Indan Hindu diaspora; first in Europe, North America, Australia, and now in the GCC countries ( a 9 million strong population) that poses a threat to the Two Holy Mosques.
The threat is backed by nuclear armed state with the world's 4th largest army

 
There is a potential internal threat to at least one of the The Two Holy Mosques, for which Pakistan's help may once again be needed by Saudi Arabia . This internal threat while understood by both Saudi Arabia and Pakistan has received little attention in the international media.

There are 2.5 million largely Hindu Indian ex-pat laborers resident in Saudi Arabia.. With the rise of global Hindutva these are a dangerous de-stabilizing factor. The situation could potentially develop into much like the Sri Lankan Tamils who were brought into Sri Lanka as plantation laborers and later on became a force of their own. The Hindu Indian diaspora once concerned solely towards employment and remittances is now infected with Hindutva exceptionalism. While cultural aggressiveness in Western countries is limited to displays of religious processions, festivals and "no beef " demands there are no overtly religious factors associated with disputed or claimed houses of worship. Saudi Arabia is different. In a warped state sponsored manipulation of wording and interpretation of mythology, a sizable majority of Indian Hindus are now openly laying claim to the Kaaba.
Social media viral messages now circulating are claiming the Kaaba Holy mosque as a Hindu temple to Lord Shiva as Makkeshwar. The Hijr Aswad is being portrayed as a Shiv Ling.
A background:
The current Hindutva ideology is to claim the site of every significant mosque as a former Hindu temple calling for a "Survey ". In 1992 a 16th century Babri mosque in Northern India was demolished by a mob of just 250,000 in the full presence of heavily armed police and paramilitary personnel despite a Supreme Court ruling to preserve the status quo. .In the pre-Internet social-media era it took three years to build up the religious frenzy supported and financed by the global Indian diaspora with a complex build uo of propaganda using posters, multiple rallies, processions, street corner speeches print media and TV networks .
Today with the help of mobile device supported social media this state of mob frenzy can be replicated far more easily in any country of choice.
A social media generated uprising of ex-pat labor to capture the Kaaba shrine and rename it is not far that fetched. Mecca has been captured before and the Hijr Aswad stolen . This happened when the Qarmatians captured and sacked Mecca in 930 C.E. There was no Hajj for decades until the Qarmatians were driven out and the Hijr Aswad recovered.
The good news is that a Pakistani contingent can easily beat off an ex-pat uprising. if India wishes to avenge any losses to its expat labor by opening another front against Pakistan, then the Defence pact clause "attack on one is an attack on both " will come into effect.

@Master Chief . @Yasser76 , @harpy1
You're correct on this.

Not today or tomorrow, but a future generation not too far off will be dealing with hindutva claims on the kaaba.

Folks are laughing about it now, perhaps rightly so, but this has always been the problem with us Muslims - short termism. We don't know how to legislate for future generations, only for our own selfish whims in the here and now.
 
Look in the last 3 years Pakistan has made the biggest progress in its diplomacy that I have seen in my lifetime. Some of this is unprecedented like the pact with SA.

Parties like PTI and PPP are completely and utterly incompetent. One runs Sindh like its their little kingdom in central africa and PTI the worst out of the lot, in KPK where the literacy rate went down since 2013. They record RPG attacks as a crime statistic. KPK is very mishandled.

Whatever this combo is with SS and AM, its working and we need to keep it going for as long as possible.

Diplomacy? Muneera and Co is putting everything up for sale (not their domain to begin with) not for the sake of Pakistan but for their own interests, which is to get acceptance among western establishment vis-a-vis IK/PTI. That's it. I can assure you, you can pin it, all this hubris is just for get temp relief on international stage and get that monkey off the back. These generals do not think long term, its only their "term" which matters to them. There is track record of it. With regards to pact, it would have been there anyway if IK was in power. There is nothing to do with these generals, its just he chain of events which made it happen.

With regards to KPK, in my opinion, its the most democratic province of Pakistan, where people make sure their mandate is not stolen, and where people dont give a toss if you are a mullah, PTI, PPP, ANP, PML-N... they will give you chance to rule, if you screw up, they will kick you out in the next election. In living memory, only PTI has manage to keep hold of the province. And thats what matter, people opinion, their will.
 
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BSDK Zam Zam ko Jam Jam bol raha hai, And for Once I really really really want Indian P@jeets to try take Mecca, Please please just try to do it once and see what happen to your country then...
 
In Canada, we can carry Palestinian flag to protest against genocide but in Pakistan it is not allowed. This beholden government want to recognize Zionist entity solidifying loss of Palestinian lands to get few dollars. We should then also recognize Kashmir as part of India and withdraw from Azad Kashmir’s and Baltistan. Then we caution defence budget by 90% and nationalize all the defence housing society lands give free to generals.
 
BSDK Zam Zam ko Jam Jam bol raha hai, And for Once I really really really want Indian P@jeets to try take Mecca, Please please just try to do it once and see what happen to your country then...
Let's be real, Pakistanis will not fight for Muslims or Islam. The power-makers in Pakistan aren't really Muslims but an odd mixture of Westernized Christian ideology masquerading as Muslims.

The youth of Pakistan has surpassed all morality in their behavior. I just returned from a short trip. You have Western aid agencies (Read: Jewish influenced and dominated using the US as fulcrum) spreading this soft-core mental colonization. You have literally Zionist supporting US based Baptists spread across major cities of Pakistan spreading their ideology via food (their number # conversion tool used heavily in Iran and Turkey), major Christian holidays are celebrated widely. Lewd behavior everywhere. There's even an upcoming show about Pakistan and a "love island."

You see in Judaism there is no such concept of heaven or hell which surprisingly many Pakistanis are not even aware of. They follow this odd idea of people of the book - thereby allowing all types of transgressions by "people of the book."

This whole "converting to Islam"" is a tool used by females to marry non-Muslims, and for non-Muslims to marry Muslim women because their own women are utter trash. This behavior is celebrated east of the Indus in Pakistan. I watched some random Spaniard male traveling through the customs in Lahore. I piqued his name on the passport while standing right behind him. There are others Europeans single men doing the same. Each one of the "vlogger or influencer" has access to Pakistani women and sensitive sites regardless if they are White or Black. I hate the word "cu*k" but I'm starting to feel Pakistanis especially anything east of the Indus fit the description quite aptly.

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