Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Panzerkiel]

Sir aap ko nai lagta ke aapka ek lamba chora post likhne ka time a gaya hai ?
Don't you think its time for you to write a detail post on the may conflict ?

warna waise mai ne tu aapke Isteefay ki demand ker di hai
or else I have already demanded your resignation lol

As I said before, I'll write that once the May conflict is over....

 

[Areesh]

There is much more to it. You missed out few of those. It was not as plain and simple as deduced by you.

When India launched Sindoor on 7th May, it lost few fighters. You are bang on correct in this regard. But wrong after that and have got the sequence of events a little mixed up.

After launching strikes and even after loosing aircraft, Indian DGMO wanted to talk to Pak DGMO and offer no more escalation. The premise - We attacked few non-military targets and that has been achieved and we don’t seek any more escalation. Did this offer work? NO.

Pakistan inspite of shooting down few fighters and having a huge narrative advantage gave a response, “At time and place of our choosing”.

Knowing that things would escalate further, BOTH sides got into drone warfare on 08-09 May. AIM- To neutralise each other’s eyes and ears, meaning radars etc for any further operations.

Then Pakistan announced BuM on 9th night.
How did BuM go? Did it really give any thing big to talk about? Nothing. Nada.

Why did India launch standoff weapons from long range? Because the threat of PL-15 was a very strong threat. You are right.

Dear, there is no bravado in getting into the firing range of PL-15. In a war you plan to achieve your aim with minimal losses. You choose your weapons accordingly.

That is what India did and pummelled your bases from north to south, with precision and engaged limited number of targets at each base that was attacked. To show its capability to strike deep, strike at will and strike with accuracy. All the points were driven home without any doubt and ample evidence. Why limited number of targets? To keep it non-escalatory. Imagine if too much damage was caused and too many lives lost. Other side would be forced to escalate.

Did BuM achieve any results to boast about? Not to an analyst who talks with evidence. Nothing to show except tall claims and talk.

Considering that Pak had the option of ceasefire on 7th but decided to not take it and launch BuM, which turned out to be a dud, what did Pakistan gain after 7th May? The first day when it had already done wonderful from own perspective. Indian fighters destroyed without loosing any military assets. It was very very good optics.

Very few people are ready to discuss and talk about that.

 

[muz]

Why don't you just start posting videos of Shehbaz Gill as reference as well.

The only difference is the language spoken, that's it.

I dont watch Shehbaz Gill

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

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watching that dude, writing so much, must be real ADHD patient!

 

[muz]

His entire analysis has been pro PTI centric ever since he went insane. He never tall=ks about what is in interest of pakistan, but rather what will benefit the PTI. He can fuckofff

He is a little bit PTI centric but not much at least majority of his analysis is Centrist
but you can be your own judge.

 

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[TallGuy]

Of course there have been some deployments (offensive/defensive) from our side which are surely pinching them alot... Including couple of platform-types which mauled them alot in May.

what i hear this aggressive deployment happened due to floods - making Indian forward deployment hazardous - nostalgic to Kargil?

 

[marj786]

Hindsight is always 6/6. Both sides did what they had to.

From Pakistan side, it appears that PA also wanted to gain some optics after PAF’s stellar show on 7th. Desire for glory can make people do a lot of funny things.
I do have a doubt about the results of a stronger response by AM Saab. Stronger response had many ifs and buts that could have come into play. No side was ready to go there. That’s why the ceasefire was accepted by both. Both had the option not to do so and continue but decided against it.
Sanity prevailed - for the time being.

That's the thing , one of our ancestors said as much as you like alcohol we would like to die.
So we aren't the same we can cross the abyss to hunt your kind down.
We will destroy your false bravado insha'Allah

 

[Waterboy]

He is a little bit PTI centric but not much at least majority of his analysis is Centrist
but you can be your own judge.

He is anything but centrist. He never speaks in terms of Pakistan’s broader interests and consistently downplays geopolitical gains that benefit the state. His frustration is rooted in PTI’s inability to maneuver its way back into power. Since he spiraled out of control and cannot return to Pakistan, he’s betting everything on PTI’s comeback as his only way back in. Like the rest of the PTI echo chamber, his rhetoric mirrors the same propaganda pushed by Shehbaz Gill, Moeed Pirzada, Adil Raja. Now that the AJK protests can no longer be milked for views, expect a new round of videos about Pasni and claims that generals “sold the country for dollars". It’s the same rinse-and-repeat formula: grab a fresh topic, twist it from every angle, and feed it to an already emotional awam, always ending with the refrain that only PTI can handle it. On top of that, he constantly urges people toward confrontation with the state, recklessly pushing a volatile narrative from the safety of exile.

Why don't you just start posting videos of Shehbaz Gill as reference as well.

The only difference is the language spoken, that's it.

Shehbaz Gill, Moeed Pirzada, Adil Raja, and WajBro are all the same. WajBro just packages it better, speaking more smoothly than the rest, but at the core it’s the same recycled PRP PTI propaganda(establishment bad, immi chan the saviour).

 

[gamaji]

ISPR
Rawalpindi, 4 October 2025:

We have noted with grave concern the delusional, provocative and jingoistic statements coming from the highest levels of the Indian security establishment. These irresponsible statements indicate a renewed attempt at fabricating arbitrary pretexts for aggression - a prospect which might lead to serious consequences for peace and stability in South Asia.

For decades, India has benefitted from playing the victim card and painting Pakistan in negative light, while stoking violence and perpetrating terrorism in South Asia and beyond. This narrative has been sufficiently debunked and now the world recognises India as the true face of cross-border terrorism and the epi-centre of regional instability.

Earlier this year, the Indian aggression against Pakistan brought two nuclear powers to the brink of a major war. However, India seems to have forgotten the wreckage of its fighter jets and the wrath of Pakistan’s long range vectors. Suffering from collective amnesia, India now seems to be aching for the next round of confrontation.

In the face of highly provocative statements of the Indian Defence Minister and its Army and Air Chiefs, we caution that a future conflict might lead to cataclysmic devastation. In case a fresh round of hostilities is triggered, Pakistan shall not hold back. We shall resolutely respond, without any qualms or restraint.

Those seeking to establish a new normal must know that Pakistan has established a new normal of response , which will be swift, decisive and destructive. In the face of unwarranted threats and reckless aggression, the people and the Armed Forces of Pakistan have the capability and resolve to take the fight to every nook and corner of the enemy’s territory. This time we shall shatter the myth of geographic immunity, hitting the farthest reaches of the Indian territory.

As for the talk of erasing Pakistan from the map, India must know that if situation comes, the erasure will be mutual.

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Apart from the ISPR release, Daily Jang has reported the following referring to 'sources'. (Translated from Urdu)

Security sources say that after the Marka Al-Haq, India has increased its defense spending. If required, Indians' mood will be fixed yet once again. If Indians try to do something like Operation Sindoor again, all doubts will be removed this time. We know how to handle India, and it will be cured much 'better' than done the last time.

Security sources said that India's threatening statements are nothing but empty threats. However, the armed forces of Pakistan are fully prepared to defend their country, and Pakistan is playing its role for peace in the region.

Sources say that Rajnath Singh is not credible and so nothing he says should be believed. Pakistan is aware of what weapons India is buying, we have no worries, no concerns, we are always ready to respond.

Security sources say that Pakistan's defense agreement with Saudi Arabia is of utmost importance. This agreement covers both the economic and strategic domains.

Security sources have said that proposals have been received for Pasni Port and other projects. Pakistan will look after its own strategic interests. The current century is the century of minerals, and global companies are interested in discovering metals and minerals in Pakistan.

According to security sources, security forces are performing their duties under the National Action Plan. As of September 15 this year, 1,422 terrorists have been killed. Security forces have conducted more than 57,000 intelligence-based operations. 118 terrorists from Afghanistan have also been killed in these operations.

 

[Vkdindian1]

So we aren't the same we can cross the abyss to hunt your kind down.

So the discussion comes down to big talk and tall claims of being a hunter, abyss and your kind etc. Your kind seems to have been trying that since 1947. We know what has happened till now.
Also remember that many who thought that they are hunters have been hunted.

Tell Munir and Co just to do better than BuM. That will suffice.

 

[marj786]

So the discussion comes down to big talk and tall claims of being a hunter, abyss and your kind etc. Your kind seems to have been trying that since 1947. We know what has happened till now.
Also remember that many who thought that they are hunters have been hunted.

Tell Munir and Co to do better than BuM. That will suffice.

lol , you airforce chief is speaking out of his ass and you have the audacity to come lecture me, same goes for your army chief and your pm trying to save face standing Infront of a broken s400.
But bro here comes to lecture us .
You tell your bitch of an army to cross the loc or international border.
By the why do you know what has happened there since 1947

 

[Waterboy]

He is anything but centrist. He never speaks in terms of Pakistan’s broader interests and consistently downplays geopolitical gains that benefit the state. His frustration is rooted in PTI’s inability to maneuver its way back into power. Since he spiraled out of control and cannot return to Pakistan, he’s betting everything on PTI’s comeback as his only way back in. Like the rest of the PTI echo chamber, his rhetoric mirrors the same propaganda pushed by Shehbaz Gill, Moeed Pirzada, Adil Raja. Now that the AJK protests can no longer be milked for views, expect a new round of videos about Pasni and claims that generals “sold the country for dollars". It’s the same rinse-and-repeat formula: grab a fresh topic, twist it from every angle, and feed it to an already emotional awam, always ending with the refrain that only PTI can handle it. On top of that, he constantly urges people toward confrontation with the state, recklessly pushing a volatile narrative from the safety of exile.


Shehbaz Gill, Moeed Pirzada, Adil Raja, and WajBro are all the same. WajBro just packages it better, speaking more smoothly than the rest, but at the core it’s the same recycled PRP PTI propaganda(establishment bad, immi chan the saviour).

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As i predicted. Wajbro back with a new pasni story. Guy is too damn predictable...

 

[maxpane]

@Gregor Clegane
@Vkdindian1
@vasanthm


your air chief disclosed or willing to take any questions, on that poor creature?!

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we will wait 6 moths more then we can ask about her. as her pregnancy time would complete

 

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As i predicted. Wajbro back with a new pasni story. Guy is too damn predictable...

brother dnt post him or moeed peerzada both were totallt exposed in may