Pakistan-Saudi Arabia mutual defense pact: News & Discussion

[Forsvaret]

Wrong - they can now own and buy land and houses.

Source?

Clearly you haven’t been to KSA recently or are aware of anything to talk from a position of knowledge.

I did Umrah back in February 2025.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Did I say Gulf? I specifically said Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

by gulf i meant a few countries including KSA

 

[Forsvaret]

What kind of jobs ? Now you need training and competence the days of construction labor jobs are few.

The vast majority of Pakistanis I encountered on my recent visit to Saudi Arabia were doing low-wage menial jobs. They paid half of their monthly income to their Zimmi and the rest was sent back to Pakistan. Couldn’t own anything in the Kingdom.

 

[hasssanali8998]

The educated middle class has NO future in the Kingdom because they can’t own anything there. Everything is owned by a Zimmi under their inhumane and unjust Iqama system…

yes , i kind of see it as benefit they will send most of their earned money back to Pakistan and come back after retirement .

 

[Yasser76]

The vast majority of Pakistanis I encountered on my recent visit to Saudi Arabia were doing low-paying menial jobs. They paid half of their monthly income to their Zimmi and the rest was sent back to Pakistan. Couldn’t own anything in the Kingdom.

Go onto Linkedin, many Pakistanis are in middle and senior positions in big Saudi firms.

Maybe you did not encounter professional people on your visit.

Saudi Airlines, Flynas, Flyadeal and Riyadh Air have many Pakistanis in top positions, and this is just the airline sector

 

[Forsvaret]

yes , i kind of see it as benefit they will send most of their earned money back to Pakistan and come back after retirement .

The vast majority of Pakistanis I encountered on my recent visit to Saudi Arabia were doing low-wage menial jobs. They paid half of their monthly income to their Zimmi and the rest was sent back to Pakistan. Couldn’t own anything in the Kingdom.

It’s actually much better for Pakistani middle class to move to a western country where they get the same citizenship rights as the rest of their local / native population, unlike our so-called Muslim "brother" countries…

 

[Forsvaret]

Saudi Airlines, Flynas, Flyadeal and Riyadh Air have many Pakistanis in top positions, and this is just the airline sector

Do these Pakistanis in top positions get the same citizenship rights as the local Saudis?

 

[Yasser76]

Do these Pakistanis on top positions get the same citizenship rights as the local Saudis?

I dont know, most probably not, but that was not the debate. You said you only encountered Pakistanis in low paid jobs, our experiances of Saudi are very different, maybe you do not hand around many middle class or upper middle class people. I dont know dude.

 

[Forsvaret]

I dont know, most probably not, but that was not the debate.

So even Pakistanis working on top positions in Saudi Arabia can’t escape their Dhimmi and Iqama system. They also do not get the same citizenship rights as the rest of local Saudis. This is probably "great" for those who just wanna make money only to send it back to Pakistan. For all the rest who actually wanna settle in a place outside of Pakistan and build a better future for their children there, moving to a Western country is their only option.

 

[FarhanSiddiqui]

Pakistan. For all the rest who wanna settle in a place outside of Pakistan and build a better future for their children there, moving to a Western country is the only option.

You have tens of thousands of Pakistanis immigrants in Canada that came from the Persian Gulf countries.

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[Baadil]

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As we discussed before the Gulf countries with Saudi leading will ramp up Pakistani hiring and gradually phase down other labor from select source countries.

I believe I heard from a worker / workers in Makkah / Madinah that they had been hiring more Bangladeshis nowadays as Masjid Al Haram and Masjid Nabawai SAW workers?

 

[Baadil]

They also do not get the same citizenship rights as the rest of local Saudis.

Nor does any expat, even Pakistani / White British.

 

[Blain2]

whats the plan to root out the corruption, mismgmt, and other shit?

Asking for a friend who wants to know.....

This is not a zero-sum game (do both!) but also mixing your party loyalties and agenda with matters of foreign affairs makes little sense.

I have recently visited Kingdom of Saudi Arabia for Umrah and saw my with own eyes how bad our Pakistani diaspora is treated there. And we’re rejoicing for "more" of this national humiliation?

Been to Saudi Arabia and got nothing but respect from the Saudis and saw the same with Pakistani labor. If the people living in KSA live like guests and treat the hosts as hosts, the outcome is net positive. Plus, I can guarantee Saudis treat us no worse than how we treat other foreign labor inside Pakistan. Itna khiyal tha "national humiliation" ka tau Imran Khan ne kiyoon nahi kuch kiya apnay tenure me? More tribal nonsense.

 

[Abdul q]

Stop sending labour upgrade the damn universities to international level…

 

[Forsvaret]

Itna khiyal tha "national humiliation" ka tau Imran Khan ne kiyoon nahi kuch kiya apnay tenure me?

Another extreme Bughaz-e-Imrani spotted. PM Imran Khan actually spoke about the plight of Pakistani laborers in Saudi Arabia while the Saudi Crown Prince was on his official visit to Pakistan:

On the first day of Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman trip to Pakistan, the country’s Prime Minister Imran Khan asked the kingdom’s leaders to “ease the hardships” of labourers in the country, and to “look upon them as your own people.”

“These are very special people for us. This is something very close to me. And I would request you to do something for them to ease their hardships,” Khan said last night during a dinner reception at the Prime Minister’s house on the occasion of the Crown Prince’s visit to Islamabad.

Pakistan PM Khan urges Saudi Arabia to treat expats 'as your own people'

Mohammed Bin Salman told Paksitan PM Imran Khan that he should consider the crown prince "your ambassador in Saudi Arabia"

www.arabianbusiness.com

The entire world has been exposed in one man’s BUGHAZ. I am literally shocked!