Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Arash]

The west says a lot of things and these khars believe it everytime. How long till we once again hear "we were deceived" by these useless officials?

Oh really so they don't want that anymore??? How cute and gentle of them.......

 

[Arash]

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There will probably be no war any soon and it makes sense as IDF wants to replenish as much as they can, it's time for Iran to repair everything that was damaged and maximize the missile production rate and get any fighter jet, even Su-27 or Mig31, everything it can from various sources, repair the IADS and its production rate with foreign components and systems, and come back stronger to face IDF

The covert attacks will probably keep going so i hope they fixed all the flaws that Israel used during the war. Doing nothing is not an option this time, the country more united than before the war and no protest/riot erupted which was IDF's main goal of their attacks

1- not certifié that Putin said so 2- even if so, Israelis aren't worth our trust at all 3- u.s. neither

 

[Persian Gulf]

What you talking about? Iran has had relations with “Israel” for thousands of years.

Israel was created on Palestinian land only 70 years ago and Iran had relations with it for maybe 20-30 years in total

prior jewish protectorates were thousands of years ago and have no connection with the modern day nation state they created and called Israel

in any case, most Iranians did not support the Shah's relations with Israel (frequently booed them at football matches during the Asia Cup matches in the 60s and 70s) and it didn't take long for the Shah to realise how duplicitous and conniving the Jewish supremacists are. we had certain joint military deals but we discovered Israel was screwing Iran over to extract money from us while giving us outdated tech.

Project Flower:

Yaakov Shapiro, the Defense Ministry official in charge of coordinating the negotiations with Iran from 1975 to 1978, recalls: "In Iran they treated us like kings. We did business with them on a stunning scale. Without the ties with Iran, we would not have had the money to develop weaponry that is today in the front line of the defense of the State of Israel."

While Pahlavi's authorities were happy with this project and its advancement away from the eyes of the US in their view, Israel had carefully duped Pahlavi to secure its interests. According to Israel's plan, during this project, contrary to what Iran's top officials think, Iran would only achieve obsolete technology

There are other ways to advance the Palestinian cause without threatening to wipe the country off the map and fake statements of grandeur about how Israel will disappear ‘soon’.

Unless Iran strikes a peace deal with Israel and an [eventual] path to normalization, Iran will never be integrated into the West. The west is ruled by Jewish businessmen, scientists, officials, and they won’t allow the Western governments they are part of to engage with normalization with Iran as long as Israel is under hostile threats.

Russia understood this, China understood this, and even the Arabs now understand this. Everyone is getting rich and prospering except Iran because you wore your heart on your sleeve and made your intentions blatantly clear instead of having a shrewd of deception and cleverness.

true

 

[kastor ville]

What you talking about? Iran has had relations with “Israel” for thousands of years.

It’s this stupid zero sum game of ‘Margh ba America Margh ba Israel’ that has gotten our country on the verge of collapse.

There are other ways to advance the Palestinian cause without threatening to wipe the country off the map and fake statements of grandeur about how Israel will disappear ‘soon’.

Unless Iran strikes a peace deal with Israel and an [eventual] path to normalization, Iran will never be integrated into the West. The west is ruled by Jewish businessmen, scientists, officials, and they won’t allow the Western governments they are part of to engage with normalization with Iran as long as Israel is under hostile threats.

Russia understood this, China understood this, and even the Arabs now understand this. Everyone is getting rich and prospering except Iran because you wore your heart on your sleeve and made your intentions blatantly clear instead of having a shrewd of deception and cleverness.

See...the problem with you guys is, you have a distorted image of Israel-US relations.....the West is not ruled Jews, they're rich and they spread money around to garner favors.....but once the word got out about genocide, a lot of people are distancing themselves from Israel.....this is the part you guys miss, this same mentality was the present when we we're told the US and Israel are invincible.....what happened to Israel during the 12 day war? What happened to the US in Iraq and Afghanistan......none of those conflicts are victories. The US spent 11 trillion dollars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the hidden cost between the wars and the cost of the dept of homeland security, the interest and the monies lost in Iraq is probably close to 15 trillion......that's almost half the deficit they've rang up in 200 yrs!!!
Please don't make Iranians believe that there is only one way out of this.....which is kissing Netanyahu's ass.......this is a fallacy!

 

[FUB]

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There will probably be no war any soon and it makes sense as IDF wants to replenish as much as they can, it's time for Iran to repair everything that was damaged and maximize the missile production rate and get any fighter jet, even Su-27 or Mig31, everything it can from various sources, repair the IADS and its production rate with foreign components and systems, and come back stronger to face IDF

The covert attacks will probably keep going so i hope they fixed all the flaws that Israel used during the war. Doing nothing is not an option this time, the country more united than before the war and no protest/riot erupted which was IDF's main goal of their attacks

Never trust satan and the clan. The only logical inference is that they were hammered. Anything else is a deception and a Trojan Horse. Unfortunately, we are going to see the illiterate, low-IQ, so-called politicians parading around and yammering nonsense.

 

[Persian Gulf]

what happened to Israel during the 12 day war?

they bombed every important target in Iran with ease and precision without losing even one fighter jet and only suffered 30 killed (all civilians) ?

 

[kastor ville]

they bombed every important target in Iran with ease and precision without losing even one fighter jet and only suffered 30 killed (all civilians) ?

Well, that's a rosy way to look at it.....may I ask who was the last country to hit Israel/Tel Aviv? When and which country landed BMs on Israel?
Also, since we're on the subject, which other country did Israel send a message to asking for a cease fire?......Ever?

As the Americans say, don't piss on me and tell me it's raining.

 

[kastor ville]

Israel was created on Palestinian land only 70 years ago and Iran had relations with it for maybe 20-30 years in total

prior jewish protectorates were thousands of years ago and have no connection with the modern day nation state they created and called Israel

in any case, most Iranians did not support the Shah's relations with Israel (frequently booed them at football matches during the Asia Cup matches in the 60s and 70s) and it didn't take long for the Shah to realise how duplicitous and conniving the Jewish supremacists are. we had certain joint military deals but we discovered Israel was screwing Iran over to extract money from us while giving us outdated tech.

Project Flower:

Yaakov Shapiro, the Defense Ministry official in charge of coordinating the negotiations with Iran from 1975 to 1978, recalls: "In Iran they treated us like kings. We did business with them on a stunning scale. Without the ties with Iran, we would not have had the money to develop weaponry that is today in the front line of the defense of the State of Israel."

While Pahlavi's authorities were happy with this project and its advancement away from the eyes of the US in their view, Israel had carefully duped Pahlavi to secure its interests. According to Israel's plan, during this project, contrary to what Iran's top officials think, Iran would only achieve obsolete technology


true

There was a good reason for the Iran back during the Shah era to be friendly with Israel......the Shah needed the US, he knew we had the Russians on top of us, he needed to keep them in check. Israel was just another pawn on the chessboard for him, I know you've seen the videos of the Shah talking about the Jewish influence.....he was a calibrated man, he had the Russians, he had the Commies (MEK) he had Saddam and their Wahabi allies to worry about.

 

[kastor ville]

Then you have to wait out Trump in some way and survive his maximum pressure campaign with a risk of escalation and war in the next 3 years. And that is based on the assumption that the situation would change after 3 years, while it is quite possible and probably more likely that the next US president would also be a republican, or at least a right-wing figure like JD Vance.

Trump seems pretty clear that he wants Iran to join the Abraham Accords. I doubt he would settle for just non-hostility at this point. Even if he accepts non-hostility, he would want Iran to declare that new stance officially.

1000 bucks says the coming recession will sweep out the Repubs out of office.....and that the next president will NOT be a Republican.

 

[kastor ville]

Very true, but seems the arabs have taken this poison pill and are doing alright.

So we become a vassal state with zero independence?

I.R. had independent foreign policy for 40 years, and they messed it up completely. The whole point of having independence is so you can make decisions to benefit your country. Iran hasn't benefitted.

Yes.....no one said we can't normalize with the West, I only said we don't need to include Israel. Can you imagine the smile on Netanyahu's face when the Iranian president standing there shaking hands with that mofo?
That is humiliation.....

We can say we will stop the enrichment, and take the whole thing underground. Deny....Deny.....Deny. We don't just build one underground facility, we build 3. Anytime they get wise we move the centrifuges into the next facility. This way we can normalize with the EU and then the US.......we can freeze out the Zios all together. Just like they tried to do with the Palestinians
We don't have to surrender........that's the problem with Iranian thinking, too honest.....**** the Fatwa! This is the 21st century, we don't have to pledge allegiance to 7th century Arab ideals.

 

[kastor ville]

living among people, seeing their growing suffering and their hopelessness , working with governmental institute and organization

I remember you from the old PDF.....you were a true believer, was there a single event that made you say enough is enough? Or was it accumulation over time? The reason I'm asking you is because, these guys fked up bad to lose people like you........I've been saying that the regime can survive but it needs to reform itself. And that change has to come from inside...Seems like reform only happens when they're in danger of losing a large swath of the population.....Masha's death was a fork in the road, and the idiots took the wrong fork, but now all of a sudden they changed the rules and say hijab is not mandatory anymore. This is a bit late, I think the mechanism of change/reform is broken. If we get free elections, I mean free of the bullshit Guardian council meddling and things of that nature.....the SL anointing people..etc.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Well, that's a rosy way to look at it.....may I ask who was the last country to hit Israel/Tel Aviv? When and which country landed BMs on Israel?

so we should be happy we hit Tel Aviv a few times and killed 30 Israelis even though they hit militarily important targets throughout Iran with ease and precision and killed > 1000 Iranians ?

Also, since we're on the subject, which other country did Israel send a message to asking for a cease fire?......Ever?

which country gets attacked, gets 30+ senior commanders and nuclear scientists killed in a few hours, >1000 civilians killed, threatens to raze Tel Aviv and Haifa to the ground, then accepts a ceasefire within 12 days? ...ever?

 

[FUB]

It is now trending on all primary news feeds, including Reuters. I still wouldn't trust these creatures. We hope to see revenge for over one thousand Iranian civilians murdered.

Putin: Israel asked us to convey calming messages to Iran

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Putin: Israel asked us to convey calming messages to Iran​

Where is Mohsen Reyhani?
I guess the other 300+ missiles did not fall in open fields after all.

That tiny little country.

 

[kastor ville]

so we should be happy we hit Tel Aviv a few times and killed 30 Israelis even though they hit militarily important targets throughout Iran with ease and precision and killed > 1000 Iranians ?


which country gets attacked, gets 30+ senior commanders and nuclear scientists killed in a few hours, >1000 civilians killed, threatens to raze Tel Aviv and Haifa to the ground, then accepts a ceasefire within 12 days? ...ever?

Remember how this post started.... Normalizing with US without Israel Guess what? I want to see some of you guys eat crow now!

US will work with Iran: Trump

TEHRAN, Oct. 09 (MNA) – US President Donald Trump claims that his cabinet will now work with Iran.

en.mehrnews.com

 

[Persian Gulf]

Remember how this post started.... Normalizing with US without Israel Guess what? I want to see some of you guys eat crow now!

US will work with Iran: Trump

TEHRAN, Oct. 09 (MNA) – US President Donald Trump claims that his cabinet will now work with Iran.

en.mehrnews.com

this discussion started by you asking what Israel did to Iran and saying they lost the war

what am I supposed to eat crow about?