Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

[RescueRanger]

I would appreciate if you could be fair in your treatment.

I would like that iranian poster's post removed as well, do not need lectures on morality from people who have killed unarmed innocent afghan refugees. Thanks!

all I asked you to do was not insult all Iranians as you did in your reply which was uncalled for.

 

[El Sidd]

What's unreasonable about wanting a end to TTP or BLA terrorism and the terrorists arrested or killed?

Why was the head of the TTP living in Kabul whilst he organised attacks against Pakistan?

Why are BLA allowed space to train and organise in Afghanistan???


Either the Afghans see sense, or we are entering into a long conflict in which they will suffer

There are TTP and BLA elements across the globe, modern warfare does not require extensive training camps in empty quarters of a struggling barren wasteland.

Pakistan is not going to get dragged in Afghanistan no matter how strong our morning prayers are on the matter.

No one knows who bombed Kabul unless you personally know that.

What has Pakistan been doing for this long and before this conflict? You are making it look like Pakistan wanted to wage a war on them from the get go.

Diplomacy and quite mature one at that.

You wanted a diplomatic answer to indian aggression and now this afghan stupidity?

Pakistani constitution does not allow for a conflict with a Muslim country. No idea where you got this impression about India.

 

[I*R*A]

all I asked you to do was not insult all Iranians as you did in your reply which was uncalled for.

Whatever man, you must be blind to his hatred for Iraqis then.

Obviously, its not the innocent people who will suffer in these countries, but only a big mouth retard from Iraq is going to suffer with his astrological suggestions.

 

[I*R*A]

Diplomacy and quite mature one at that.

And failed. You wish to continue with failed diplomacy.

Pakistani constitution does not allow for a conflict with a Muslim country. No idea where you got this impression about India.

Does Pakistani constitution say explicitly that when your Muslim brother wages war on you do not respond?

What if we TTP declares itself a state, should we just accept and start diplomatic process with them as well, because now constitution does not allow it?

Before you answer, keep in mind world has not yet recognised TTA run show as a legitimate afghan government.

 

[RescueRanger]

Whatever man, you must be blind to his hatred for Iraqis then.

Please use report button I can only act based on "REPORTS" if you don't report how am I supposed to see what he has posted, I cannot go through every thread with a fine tooth comb on my own - report threads in future.

 

[r3alist]

Tough love with Taliban? I have no idea about what you say, but as a matter of fact, millions of Afghans live in Iran. Pakistan does not have that many refugees in other countries but Afghanistan has.

So?

There will always be a few because vast majority of Pakistanis believe Iranian approach to Afghans is dehumanising and counterproductive.

The basic point is that Iran enforces law and harmony, much more compared to Pakistan.

And Iran has not had to tolerate what Pakistan has had to.


Subsequently it is a lesson for Pakistan to societally enforce law and order then let things get this bad.

 

[r3alist]

Pakistan should offer realistic terms for the ceasefire or make it conditional if objectives have not been resolved.

As I understand Afghanistan wants to seize territory, in fact what do they really want?
The basis of the negotiated end terms can obviously be influenced by what the Pakistan military is able to do and inflict

In that sense it will be Afghanistan who has to take upon their hearts the idea of being reasonable

 

[RescueRanger]

Pakistan should offer realistic terms for the ceasefire or make it conditional if objectives

1. Durand line is non-negotiable -
2. TTP must cease operations in Afghanistan - be arrested by IEA and handed over to Pakistan
3. Afghanistan needs to take ownership to police her side of the international border.

These are the minimum.

 

[I*R*A]

2. TTP must cease operations in Afghanistan - be arrested by IEA and handed over to Pakistan

That is an impossible ask from them. History shows these retards have a tunnel vision and do not understand the consequences.

A question for every Pakistani, how do you think TTA / india were able to reach each other this quickly and easily? Who must have played the bridge between them, who convinced TTA to look towards indians? I for one think that it must have been people who had old relations / dealings with indians and they are same someone, for to avenge them TTA would mount a stupid attack on Pakistan.

They will never accept this.

 

[Taimoor]

You are wrong again, European Ashkenazi genome is once again 50 : 50 between Levant_N/Anatolian_N (Almost replica of any other Jew) and Southern European (Steppe-EMBA + Early European Farmers). Take any Jew group, be it Sephardi, Mizrahi, Ashkenazi, Yemenites etc and their genome will always be Levant_N/Natufian+Anatolian_N as base marker because they are all from same origin. Judaism did not spread out to diverse genetics which is why their numbers are so low. There is a reason we see modern Israelis in G25 of even of European origin yet they plot closer to their neighbouring Levant groups like Syriacs, Druze etc because of Levant origin .... Eastern Iranics like Pashtuns/Baloch/Khorasanis/Pamiris on the other hand are Iran_N/CHL+Steppe MLBA+East Asian/IVC. Zero Connection with any Jewish entity be it Ashkenazi, Khazarian, Sephardi, Mizrahi, Yemenite.

What you are repeating is what Afghan ethnonationalist might say to differentiate themselves as "unique" from their regional blood-bonded ethnic groups. Ethno nationalist politics revolves around this perceived folkfore based "unique-ness" but modern genetic science blasts these BS theories into oblivion. Considering the kind of venom Afghan ethno-nationalists spew against Iran and Pakistan, I would expect you to understand it but its fine if you cant.

These days. one can be a Jew from Poland or Timbuktu, means jack. When their "faces have been disfigured" (as per Quran) first by Assyrians, and then by Babylonians, talk of keeping the genes, is like going against the very publicly known history. You really need to learn the history.

Bani-Isreal is a family tree, not cesspool of genes.

 

[SABRE]

1. Durand line is non-negotiable -
2. TTP must cease operations in Afghanistan - be arrested by IEA and handed over to Pakistan
3. Afghanistan needs to take ownership to police her side of the international border.

These are the minimum.

They'll do none of that.

1. The few (very few) who wanted normalise the issue were done away with, sometimes violently, although this was not the exclusive, primary, or the necessary reason for their expulsion/execution.

2. The line between Afgh Talib and TTP is thin. They are the same. To think otherwise would be foolishness. They didn't take action against them during American presence, and they'll not take action now.

3. Afgh/Talib have no capacity for this. Their troops are fragmented and manned by warlords and criminals. They prefer anarchy and autonomy over law enforcement, especially in the border areas.

We can put demands forward but unfortunately all of them would yield very little. The best that could be done is handing over the people wanted by Pakistan. But I don't see it happening anytime soon.

 

[KingQamaR]

You can condition these for ceasefire along with a simple statement that our war is with TTP and BLA and not Afghans or Afghanistan.

One of the 2 parties must become reasonable. We cannot waste ammunition on the west bank of Indus for too long.

What is the issue here is TTP(Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan) it largely consists of damn Afghan immigrant who fled to Pakistan, this organisation used to uphold agenda similar to Taliban and wants similar government in Pakistan. It have now become a dangerous Terrorist organization conducting suicide attacks in multiple locations.
It IS harboured by Afghanistan as they are more than 90% Afghani, and they hardly have any ground to operate in Pakistan. Technically we are at war with these treacherous Afghans..

 

[muhammed45]

Whatever man, you must be blind to his hatred for Iraqis then.

Again, war between Afg and Pak is not only bad but also too dangerous and only benefits external forces. It will affect all of the neighboring countries' security. It will also threaten innocent civilians of both countries.

And no, i don't have any grudge against Iraqis. That was a simple sarcasm.

Peaceful solution is much better, mediation must not be done by colonial powers esp western powers such as USA that wants to returnto Afghanistan. They have already stained their hands with the blood of our people-s. So its good to refrain from asking for more violence. It will be considered as an invitation for foreign powers to come and take the advantage of it.

I think i explained better than the last post.

 

[Ibbi32]

These namak harams will learn no lesson if we remain on the defensive. They have no respect for durand line People talking about wakhan corridor control are right we need to start annexing afghan territory. Lets see how many in the un object to this idea Pakistan must use its seat at UNSC well to influence public opinion against Indian intervention

 

[I*R*A]

Again, war between Afg and Pak is not only bad but also too dangerous and only benefits external forces. It will affect all of the neighboring countries' security. It will also threaten innocent civilians of both countries.

And no, i don't have any grudge against Iraqis. That was a simple sarcasm.

Peaceful solution is much better, mediation must not be done by colonial powers esp western powers such as USA that wants to returnto Afghanistan. They have already stained their hands with the blood of our people-s. So its good to refrain from asking for more violence. It will be considered as an invitation for foreign powers to come and take the advantage of it.

I think i explained better than the last post.

Why did you launch missiles at Erbil in December 2021? There was no provocation from them or they did not attack iran at all, then why? Did your government think twice that their actions could result in killing of other Muslim brothers living there?

Didn't Qasim Sulemani threaten Pakistan with a war?

Didn't your country launch missiles at Pakistan?

What will iran do if their border posts are attacked and their military men killed by let us say Pakistani Army in this similar fashion?

The problem with your country and the other Muslim country bordering us is, you befriend our arch enemy, you expect us to be good Muslims, but you yourself won't budge twice to show your superiority over us and consider us as some black skinned beggars.

I hope I have given enough reasons for you to ponder and rethink why it is not our fault and why we reserve all the right to resort to violence if we are attacked and not respected and considered weak. Our show of Muslim brotherhood has repeatedly been violated, ignored and abused by both our Muslim neighboring countries.