Pakistan-Af: Operation Khyber Storm

[Pakistanithinktank]

I think that India is planning to attack Pakistan for sure. I think that the Taliban agreed with India to make it a 2-front war with a view that the Taliban will be paid handsomely for their services. I do think Pakistan saw this, and has basically decided to take Afghanistan/Taliban off the board by reducing their ability to interfere. The Taliban either agree to Pakistan's terms, or the bombing starts again, but this time with greater intensity and if the Taliban don't agree, damage them to the point where the other groups in Afghanistan can directly challenge them.

India will attack for sure. But now, their plans of a 2 front war are gone. It is a direct face off for when they decide to attack.

To understand the current tensions, it's important to view recent events not as isolated incidents, but as points in a longer term strategy. From one perspective, India's current posture is seen as the culmination of plans set in motion several years ago. This viewpoint also suggests that Delhi has, over the past three years, has increased engagement with groups like the BLA, TTP and the Afghan Taliban to put pressure on Pakistan.

Domestically, the political survival of the BJP is often linked to its performance in key state elections, such as those in Bihar. Some analysts argue that this creates a potential incentive for the government to consider a limited military action against Pakistan for political purposes. This theory appeared to be tested just yesterday, when Indian aircraft approached Pakistani border near Azad Kashmir in a provocation that was ultimately successfully countered.

 

[Master Chief]

Honestly I wonder if he's a troll or a genuine guest who's trying to understand Pakistan. Indians are turning out to be very incorrigible and thick-headed - bordering on compulsive obsessive thinking. There is something genuine wrong with Indians. They are incapable of critical thinking.

I think we both know the answer already to this conundrum. Controlled media and civilisational PTSD have this effect on a nation of 1.5billion "establishment" types.

 

[That_Guy]

Just a word of advice to some hot bloods here. There are presently 100s of Pakistani professionals, teachers and students i Afghanistan.

Who will likely be fearful for their lives. Similarly there are hundreds of thousands of afghans in Pakistan, not everyone is Taliban.

We must ensure that innocent civillians are safeguarded on both sides. Those who need to be repatriated to Afghanistan should be repatriated peacefully without violence.

This.

Pakistan is not Israel, it doesn't have the luxury to act like a barbarian nation.

 

[Meengla]

I think that India is planning to attack Pakistan for sure. I think that the Taliban agreed with India to make it a 2-front war with a view that the Taliban will be paid handsomely for their services. I do think Pakistan saw this, and has basically decided to take Afghanistan/Taliban off the board by reducing their ability to interfere. The Taliban either agree to Pakistan's terms, or the bombing starts again, but this time with greater intensity and if the Taliban don't agree, damage them to the point where the other groups in Afghanistan can directly challenge them.

India will attack for sure. But now, their plans of a 2 front war are gone. It is a direct face off for when they decide to attack.

India has lost an incredible amount of prestige because of Modi's May 2025 blunder, while Pakistan's star has greatly risen because of that. And to buy the Afghan 'loyalty' is chump change for the Indians.

 

[Bilal]

Read some history, I know you try to avoid it because your ego is too fragile to take facts. Otherwise, I wasn't even talking to you.

Please tell us the history. Tell us who opposed Pakistan’s entry into UN, tell us about ippi, tell us about Pushtoonistan movement. Tell us how as you put it “propping up Pakistan” “forced” you to join Soviets.

 

[RescueRanger]

@Ghaznavi101 may I please request that you bow out of this thread for a brief period as emotions are high on both sides.

There will be time to look at the bigger picture soon. InshaAllah.

 

[Blain2]

Pakistan has been talking since the beginning. The Taliban outrightly reject the accusation that TTP is responsible for terrorism in Pakistan. The Taliban point fingers at Pakistan's internal problems.

There is no talking with the Taliban.

All conflicts end in talks. Sooner or later.

What has been meted out has given the other side a pause. That they are hard-headed goes without saying but they don't hold all the cards either.

This is the FIRST time when series pain has been inflicted and it is overwhelmingly one-sided. They know it.

But this is a long road. In my mind, here is a reason why this mess will perpetuate.

Taliban truly think that they are doing the ummah a service and displacing Pakistan's military/constitution and a Talibanized takeover of the country is another step in solidifying their ideology. It won't stop there. From Pakistan, it would be Iran next and then into the Gulf etc. The funny thing is that the RSS morons gloating over this divide have no idea that at one point, Pakistan/Afghanistan would be united in challenging and eventually displacing Indian hegemony in South Asia.

My own thinking is that instead of this militancy based approach, Pakistani society has already been Islamized enough where there isn't a hard pushback on imposition of Sharia (we run a federal shariat court after all as a parallel construct). It is slowly happening on its own. Compare what Pakistan was in the 60s/70s/90s and what it is now and it is evident.

Khalid is a sensible bloke. Lol this is not how you share "credible intel" with appropriate channels. Notice it didn't get the traction intended despite the big attention grabbing "scary language".

Its because Pakistan's HUMINT is well aware of what is going on...

In case of ANY suicide attack, Pakistan should hit Kabul/Kandahar directly! And then push 50,000 Afghan refugees across the border by trucking them to the border.
The pain has to be raised manifold for the Taliban and their proxies. If Pakistani citizens die by their IED/suicide bombings, then they are clearly opening the door for their own citizens dying in Pakistani response.

It would be EXTREMELY unfortunate if Taliban go down this path. Pakistan is NOT killing their citizens daily. They need to understand this very clearly. But Pakistan will be forced to respond aggressively.

 

[Ak01]

This.

Pakistan is not Israel, it doesn't have the luxury to act like a barbarian nation.

israel did what it needed to, so that its civillians would be safe.

they had the balls we dont.

 

[Master Chief]

The Afghanis, TTP and Taliban. In other words the usual suspects.

It would be a severe mistake to back ANY Taliban faction after all this.

Cut them all loose. They're all tainted and vulnerable to flip flopping due to Indian meddling.

Back the NA, who have been humiliated and disowned by India. They will not appreciate the dishonourable behaviour from Hindustan and as such, will oppose Modi on principle.

I sincerely hope Pakistan's deep state is not STUPID enough to back ANY Talib faction now.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

To be fair, a lot of people, including myself had misgivings and were distrustful of the taliban.

A lot of us predicted this war would occur, and were laughed at.

I agree,
we have had the taster of Afghan Taliban regime before and them being ideologically aligned with TTP and Al Qaeda made it clear what they were going to do in their part 2 of their governance.
we even questioned the policy for rehabilitating the TTP back into Pakistan and my friends even shared videos of TTP setting up check posts and harassing caravans in Sawat as in the old days but General Faiz and PTI government were on the same page of Taliban brotherhood.

 

[Ak01]

Back the NA, who have been humiliated and disowned by India. They will not appreciate the dishonourable behaviour from Hindustan and as such, will oppose Modi on principle.

never learn pakistan, never learn...


though, i guess in the short term it would be helpful, in the long term though? Only solution is one like Israel.

OTOH, in the meantime would be fun to annex wakhan and let the NRF use it as a staging ground for their rebuild protected by pak, but just remember, they hate pak too.

 

[Bilal]

Pakistan cannot conquer Afghanistan. But it can make it impossible to administer.

Rest it will devolve into chaos by itself.

 

[A1Kaid]

Release Imran Khan and make him the Prime Minister of Afghanistan.

 

[Blain2]

Read some history, I know you try to avoid it because your ego is too fragile to take facts. Otherwise, I wasn't even talking to you.

My friend, the issue is a simple one. Pakistani citizens cannot die in the hundreds while Afghans live peacefully under their noble Taliban leaders.

Nobody buys that Taliban are not behind TTP/BLA, no matter the denials.

Really wish for a more amicable relationship b/w Pak and Afg but there is NOT one Pakistani who is ok with the current murderous trajectory of attacks by TTP/BLA.

I say again, politics aside, Afghans are some of the nicest, kindest people at a personal level, but the current policies of the Afghan administration are not helping bridge the divide.

People can bring in ancient history but our PoV is that regardless of what has gone on, Pakistan has tried to do its best to help Afghanistan (and in the process destroyed our own national fabric). While doing so, we have had to defend our turf but all the Afghan angst/hate is reserved for Pakistan only even when your government and those your government hosts, are killing Pakistanis daily.

 

[gamaji]

Don't forget they're your proxy, you brought them to power, supported them when they were hunted. They're forced on us. As to why they're attacked?
Frankly, as always Pakistan is and was a hired gun. This nothing more than papa Trumps request for Bagram. Also, the proxy backfired, so they're of no use to you anymore.
The average Afghans are happy Taliban are getting humbled. We couldn't be happier with the current conflict. We also foresee this situation getting out of hand for both parties. It's match made in heaven

Ah, a coward slumd0g pretending to be an Afghan. Yes, Pak brought them to power under some terms and conditions. Taliban disgracefully refused to honor their words.