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[tsunset]

"sugar daddy" What does this mean?
I understand that there were attempts in Iran to launch AMBL from an airplane. Why was it canceled? Air defense is always a difficult matter. I think that its ballistic missiles protected it from Israel. They need to be developed even further. We need to follow Russia's example.

We don't receive 100 billions of cash for free every year
We don't have full cooperation and mutual defence pact for free with the US
We don't have all the blueprints of every single US fighter jet and weapons with American slaves to produce them for us, for free
We don't have the US + NATO actively scanning, protecting and shooting down everything for us, for free
We don't have the airspace of all passive Arab countries at our disposal, for free
We can't ask the US to produce everything for us using their own slaves
We don't have the US and NATO giving its nukes blueprints and material for free to us
We don't have the US + NATO giving its most critical and sensible technology to us for free
We can't buy any jet we want for free
The US won't move its own assets into Iran for free
We don't have pipelines of free oil and gas coming directly to our country from Sunni muslim countries
The US won't give its most sensitive satellite imagery to us for free
We don't receive ammunition and latest missiles and bombs from the US and NATO for free

 

[ToddE]

We don't receive 100 billions of cash for free every year
We don't have full cooperation and mutual defence pact for free with the US
We don't have all the blueprints of every single US fighter jet and weapons with American slaves to produce them for us, for free
We don't have the US + NATO actively scanning, protecting and shooting down everything for us, for free
We don't have the airspace of all passive Arab countries at our disposal, for free
We can't ask the US to produce everything for us using their own slaves
We don't have the US and NATO giving its nukes blueprints and material for free to us
We don't have the US + NATO giving its most critical and sensible technology to us for free
We can't buy any jet we want for free
The US won't move its own assets into Iran for free
We don't have pipelines of free oil and gas coming directly to our country from Sunni muslim countries
The US won't give its most sensitive satellite imagery to us for free
We don't receive ammunition and latest missiles and bombs from the US and NATO for free

Great post !

 

[ToddE]

Great discussion on IRIAF going on @Persian Gulf

 

[Desprado123]

If i had any advisor of Iran first i would see countries that helped at least morally against Israel and of course Russia is not that country.

For Iran to counter f 35 is along term game. First if would focus on AD and for that China it is the best option for Iran and durring at that time i would go for J 10C atleast. I will never trust Russia on defense matters as of course Russia will purposley limit its products against Israel even in contracts like US did with Pakistan for f 16 against India.

My goal would be defand Iran durning these times and my bet would be China for that. Iran should focus on defending on Iran rather attacking until it gets Nuclear.

 

[Shafagh]

Any updates on the new Mig 29s?

 

[Persian Gulf]

Great discussion on IRIAF going on @Persian Gulf

I am unfortunately only one person, please report off topic posts so others can see it and action quicker

persistent offenders will be given thread bans

 

[Persian Gulf]

Any updates on the new Mig 29s?

I haven't seen any news

the best we can hope for is to see the first su-35s early next year

 

[Shafagh]

I haven't seen any news

the best we can hope for is to see the first su-35s early next year

I think the window for an Israeli attack has closed this year. They will have to wait until next spring. Hopefully some of those SU 35s will be inducted into service by then.

 

[Ali_Baba]

I think the window for an Israeli attack has closed this year. They will have to wait until next spring. Hopefully some of those SU 35s will be inducted into service by then.

Why do you think the window has closed?

 

[ToddE]

I haven't seen any news

the best we can hope for is to see the first su-35s early next year

Surprisingly World Airforces Magazine has updated the IRIAF fleet with SU-35S* with * implying incoming airframes. Key Aero reported new MIG-29. Both of these wont publish anything without actual evidence.

 

[Shafagh]

Why do you think the window has closed?

I should correct what I said. There is still a window until November.

From then on, cloud cover, atmospheric conditions, will make it more difficult to perform battle damage assessments, provide visuals for sorties.

Nonetheless, the army and national security apparatus must remain vigilant.

 

[sahureka2]

I don't remember if it has already been published, it's an article from September 25th where they talk about the Mig-29

Iran Just Chose Russia’s MiG-29 Over China’s J-10C: Four Reasons Why

Following reports that the Iranian Air Force had received its first new fighter aircraft in over 30 years, with MiG-29 having been delivered to Shiraz Air Base from

militarywatchmagazine.com

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

I don't remember if it has already been published, it's an article from September 25th where they talk about the Mig-29

Iran Just Chose Russia’s MiG-29 Over China’s J-10C: Four Reasons Why

Following reports that the Iranian Air Force had received its first new fighter aircraft in over 30 years, with MiG-29 having been delivered to Shiraz Air Base from

militarywatchmagazine.com

"While old, when modernised with ‘4+ generation’ sensors, avionics and weaponry, such as Zhuk-ME or more advanced Zhuk-A/AM phased array radars and R-77M air-to-air missiles, the aircraft will be highly capable, and able to comfortably outperform the ageing F-15s and F-16s relied on by the Israeli Air Force. "


So Mig-29s with the above additional updates, in addition to the IRIAF's familiarity with the existing Mig-29s in its inventory, seem like a good option for Iran.

The question now is, are the Russians delivering them? They've been dragging their feet to deliver the S-300s until Iran sued them in an International court. So will they do the same here or deliver the Mig-29s to Iran on an urgent basis?

Personally, I think Iran should not have provided the know-how (TOT) to Russia for its Shaheed drones. Instead, it should've been a joint venture conducted in Iran for whatever additional changes that the Russians wanted. Having this leverage would have provided Iran a bargaining chip that could've forced Russia's hand to deliver those Mig-29s and Mig-35s on an urgent basis.

 

[Ali_Baba]

"While old, when modernised with ‘4+ generation’ sensors, avionics and weaponry, such as Zhuk-ME or more advanced Zhuk-A/AM phased array radars and R-77M air-to-air missiles, the aircraft will be highly capable, and able to comfortably outperform the ageing F-15s and F-16s relied on by the Israeli Air Force. "


So Mig-29s with the above additional updates, in addition to the IRIAF's familiarity with the existing Mig-29s in its inventory, seem like a good option for Iran.

There is no reason why Iran can't ( and it should ) pursue a dual track of getting Mig 29s as it is, while also ordering newer more technologically advanced J10CEs to bolster their airfleet with modern technical ability.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

There is no reason why Iran can't ( and it should ) pursue a dual track of getting Mig 29s as it is, while also ordering newer more technologically advanced J10CEs to bolster their airfleet with modern technical ability.

As the article suggested, Iran is already delivering different arms to Russia. So it is possible they could be using the proceeds from those arms sales to cover the costs of te Mig-29s. Iran is also facing economic sanctions so money could be an issue here as well.

The article also mentioned China's PLA, Pakistan air force, Egypt, and others are all in the queue to procure J-10s, and China makes only 50 planes per year. So the wait for Iran could be much longer. And when you have a gun on your head where another Western-backed Israeli attack on Iran can happen any time, the Iranians could be in a race against time, and the longer wait for J-10s may not be helping Iran at this time.