Punjab looks to ‘neutralise’ TLP

[Respect4Respect]

Almost all states are ruled by a minority that rarely has the same intetests as the majority it rules. The state exists because the majority of the people accept it as the ruling power over them. If there is no state ruling over people, there will be chaos and oppression because most people are selfish and greedy and do not care about anything other than their own interests.

So, in reality the people are at the mecry of the state, wherever or whichever state that might be.

Case example 1: The USA. A TINY minority is in a complete control of a SUPERPOWER where the large majority of that country do not have the same interests as their ruling class.

Example 2: China, even though still ruling minority, the Communist Party of China has membership numbering in 100s millions and so far the Chinese state has shown that it cares about the well-being of its people. Of course the people have to submit to the will of the government at all levels completely, which will also be the case in the USA very soon. But the US government has not been able to take care of the lives of its citizens.

Case 3: Pakistan, ruled by a tiny minority that has a zero connection and no relationship with the reality the large majority of its people live in every day. The ruling class live in their own little bubble and do not see the interests of the people as their prioroty, resulting in a myopic state of affairs and almost a failed state in every area except the military and the postmail department.

i respect your opinion even though i don't agree with your definition of the "state".

 

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[Samlee]

Could you share why are you against religious parties?

They Play With Peoples Emotions In Order To Further Their Political Agenda

 

[Distant_Observer]

 

[Pradotlc]

Now state must go against deobandi extremist madrassa that produce zoombies like Taliban.

So the arsonist and fireman …

 

[Pradotlc]

That is how training and arming occurs ? Really ? good 4 u.

Seems you don’t know much

 

[LC150]

as WSK states TLP was an army's creation... who knows the army better than him

 

[LC150]

so when the yahoodi agents are about to recognize Israel and TLP marches against them the rights of minorities were all of a sudden a priority?


tell me do you really think people are that stupid ?

 

[Jango]

Alot of question marks about this whole thing.

I will hold my judgement until a few months later. I do believe this TLP action is preparation for something more...let's see.

And I do not think it's Maryam spearheading this at all.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

as WSK states TLP was an army's creation... who knows the army better than him

WSK himself was army boot licker.

 

[Tariq Habib Afridi]

I am not opposed to banning the Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP). In fact, this action should have been taken much earlier—specifically when Khadim Hussain Rizvi founded the party by portraying Mumtaz Qadri (the convicted assassin of Punjab Governor Salmaan Taseer, who was executed in 2016) as a "unique mujahid." At that time, Rizvi openly declared that the only punishment for blasphemy against the Prophet (PBUH) is beheading, repeating the phrase "sar tan se juda" (sever the head from the body) in public rallies.

There is also a widely circulated video from a TLP rally at Minar-e-Pakistan where Rizvi, amid the call to prayer (azan) from a nearby Deobandi madrassa, demeaned it by saying something "inki aazan ki kya izzat ye tau suwaron kay b suwar hain". This inflammatory rhetoric stems from deeper ideological roots. The core issue lies in TLP's affiliation with Barelvi thought, particularly the teachings of Ahmed Raza Khan Barelvi (1856–1921), whom TLP followers revere almost to the point of ascribing near-prophetic status (nauzubillah). Many Barelvi groups, including TLP, draw from Khan's fatwas, such as those in Husam al-Haramain (1906), where he declared Deobandi, ahlul hadees and shia scholars (and by extension, their followers) as kafirs (disbelievers) and murtads (apostates) for alleged insufficient reverence toward the Prophet (PBUH).

For instance, even among the more peaceful Barelvi organizations—like Dawat-e-Islami, led by Ilyas Qadri—initiates are required to pledge allegiance (bait) based on Khan's Husam al-Haramain. This text explicitly labels non-Barelvis as kafirs, deems their calls to prayer invalid, and describes their mosques as "mosques of disbelief." The vitriolic language used by Khadim Rizvi and his successors today is a direct inheritance from Ahmed Raza Khan's writings and his fatwas. Though, In the writings of Ahmad Raza Khan himself, there are such severe blasphemies against Allah's final Messenger and even against Allah (wahabiyon ka khuda ye karta etc), which I cannot even describe here. Therefore, it would have been better to first discredit Ahmad Raza Khanbased on his own very blasphemies writing, and then to prohibit their followers from following and accepting all of his teachings like he cannot do mistake.

That said, let's address the real issue at hand. Pakistan is already facing multiple security flashpoints: the Afghan-Pakistan border remains porous, enabling operations by the TTP, BLA, and the now open front with Tehreek-e-Taliban Afghanistan (TTA). In Balochistan and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KPK), insurgent narratives have alienated locals from the military, further infuriarated with lalready crack down on PTM and Mahrang Baloch. In AJK, a recent uprising was narrowly resolved through negotiations—thankfully with restraint. Adding to this, India has escalated tensions with threats of "Operation Sindoor 2.0" following the 2025 Pahalgam attack.

Punjab and Sindh (especially Karachi) were the last stable strongholds. The mishandled crackdown on TLP in Muridke can now destabilized these core areas. I am not arguing that TLP should be left unchecked—far from it. However, the manner of execution was flawed. The Barelvi community forms a significant majority in Pakistan and is largely peaceful, consisting of simple, devout people. By firing on unarmed protesters at the Muridke sit-in, the state has sown seeds of hatred toward the military and institutions in the hearts of this very populace based in Punjab and Sindh.

The current lull in violence is deceptive—God forbid, but it could erupt into widespread unrest. This approach threatens long-term peace in Punjab and rural Sindh. Instead of targeting TLP's leadership—particularly those inciting violence through fiery speeches—the operation needlessly killed and injured ordinary, low-education attendees at the rally. In essence, at a time when we could contain external (e.g., India, Afghanistan) and internal (e.g., TTP/BLA) threats, we've opened all fronts simultaneously.

Compounding this, the proposal to U.S. to develop Pasni Port in Balochistan introduces another layer of complexity, potentially straining ties with China (our key ally via CPEC). If military leadership fails to recalibrate its policies, Pakistan risks a multi-front crisis—internal insurgencies, border skirmishes, and diplomatic isolation—that could devastate national peace in the coming days. We must act decisively but wisely to restore stability.

 

[HAIDER]

TLP will not be banned. need in future...

 

[Samlee]

WSK himself was army boot licker.

At A Certain Point In Our Life We All Were

 

[Samlee]

I am not opposed to banning the Tehreek-e-Labbaik Pakistan (TLP). In fact, this action should have been taken much earlier—specifically when Khadim Hussain Rizvi founded the party by portraying Mumtaz Qadri (the convicted assassin of Punjab Governor Salmaan Taseer, who was executed in 2016) as a "unique mujahid." At that time, Rizvi openly declared that the only punishment for blasphemy against the Prophet (PBUH) is beheading, repeating the phrase "sar tan se juda" (sever the head from the body) in public rallies.

There is also a widely circulated video from a TLP rally at Minar-e-Pakistan where Rizvi, amid the call to prayer (azan) from a nearby Deobandi madrassa, demeaned it by saying something "inki aazan ki kya izzat ye tau suwaron kay b suwar hain". This inflammatory rhetoric stems from deeper ideological roots. The core issue lies in TLP's affiliation with Barelvi thought, particularly the teachings of Ahmed Raza Khan Barelvi (1856–1921), whom TLP followers revere almost to the point of ascribing near-prophetic status (nauzubillah). Many Barelvi groups, including TLP, draw from Khan's fatwas, such as those in Husam al-Haramain (1906), where he declared Deobandi, ahlul hadees and shia scholars (and by extension, their followers) as kafirs (disbelievers) and murtads (apostates) for alleged insufficient reverence toward the Prophet (PBUH).

For instance, even among the more peaceful Barelvi organizations—like Dawat-e-Islami, led by Ilyas Qadri—initiates are required to pledge allegiance (bait) based on Khan's Husam al-Haramain. This text explicitly labels non-Barelvis as kafirs, deems their calls to prayer invalid, and describes their mosques as "mosques of disbelief." The vitriolic language used by Khadim Rizvi and his successors today is a direct inheritance from Ahmed Raza Khan's writings and his fatwas. Though, In the writings of Ahmad Raza Khan himself, there are such severe blasphemies against Allah's final Messenger and even against Allah (wahabiyon ka khuda ye karta etc), which I cannot even describe here. Therefore, it would have been better to first discredit Ahmad Raza Khan based on his own very blasphemies writing, and then to prohibit their followers from following and accepting all of his teachings like he cannot do mistake.

Yes That Is Why Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza Was Promoted So Much.Who Better To Counter The Raza Khaani Fitna Than A Former Barelvi

 

[kimjongun]

WSK himself was army boot licker.

wasnt he court marshelled??