AMCA vs KAAN vs KF-21 India Turkey & Korea’s Fighter Jets Battle For Air Supremacy—Who Leads The Pack? OP-ED

[niubi]

KAAN: multiple 5th gen prototypes.
KF-21: In low rate production, 4.9 gen, will be true 5th gen in future blocks.
AMCA: 5th gen, still on paper, no actual work have been done on building a prototype.

KAAN has only 1 prototype and first prototype at that with second prototype being constructed. Multiple prototype implies more than 2.

KF-21 doesn't have an internal bay and Korean promise of being able to deliver IWB is a hilarious one to an engineer. IWB means almost starting from scratch. IWB for medium sized fighter is incredibly difficult to do and still have the fighter perform so well with giant cavity near centre of gravity of aircraft. Flight controls need almost entire rework, structure too and all the electronics, fuel, sensors etc.

KF-21 is a good way to get other components into maturity before they take the full IWB step but I'd say KAAN is better overall just lacks a reliable source of engines for now.

AMCA is indeed paper project in comparison to those two above.

 

[LC150]

A very easy line :future wars can't be sustainable with import maal .
India is trying at least.
At most 2040, we will have industry.

Agreed 100%

in 2140 you might have figured out how to make a toaster

 

[mageera]

Agreed 100%

in 2140 you might have figured out how to make a toaster

In 15 years we will be very large economy , will see who laughs at who

 

[LC150]

In 15 years we will be very large economy , will see who laughs at who

big size and not much else.

 

[Yasser76]

In 15 years we will be very large economy , will see who laughs at who

India is a big economy right now. Still cannot deliver a Tejas in over 4 years.

Sit down

 

[Yasser76]

"They look similar, must be same, must be copied".

No yasser, DRDO labs have made several design iterations, wind tunnel testings, LRUs fabricated, developed sensors and avionics for it, made a full-scale engineering model for testing, developed own RAM materials, serpentine intakes and so on. They proudly showcase all the tech they've worked upon and developed over the years in their brochures/presentations. PAC otoh hasn't done anything beyond painting Azm on a C-130, AMCA however delayed will eventually fly and be inducted. Saying both are at same level is what actual stupidity is.

First deliver a Tejas M1KA then maybe do the bravado act my little Indian chum

 

[mageera]

India is a big economy right now. Still cannot deliver a Tejas in over 4 years.

Sit down

That's why we are aiming big .

 

[Yasser76]

That's why we are aiming big .

Carry on doing it.

 

[harpy1]

Carry on doing it.

Yasser ...it's too late to turn back
Tejas is going to happen
But long term Amca will become both a fifth generation fighter and even future block grow to 5.5 generation

What you criticise is correct it's too slow too late ...your correct

But some of your country folk who are not biased have correctly pointed out the huge military industrial complex that is now built as consequence of Tejas which will reap benefits for ever

Gan Aesa
Bvr missiles
Composite air frames
Quadruplex flybewire

The biggest technology the unmanned wingmen Like cats warrior and ghtak that will operate with Tejas in coming years

It's not all failure there are same amazing achievements
But as a Yasser defending his country of origin that's too much to hard to acknowledge

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Tejas is not one single fighter
It's morphing into Amca and complete air combat system fit to fight future wars unmanned

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Yasser ...it's too late to turn back
Tejas is going to happen
But long term Amca will become both a fifth generation fighter and even future block grow to 5.5 generation

What you criticise is correct it's too slow too late ...your correct

But some of your country folk who are not biased have correctly pointed out the huge military industrial complex that is now built as consequence of Tejas which will reap benefits for ever

Gan Aesa
Bvr missiles
Composite air frames
Quadruplex flybewire

The biggest technology the unmanned wingmen Like cats warrior and ghtak that will operate with Tejas in coming years

It's not all failure there are same amazing achievements
But as a Yasser defending his country of origin that's too much to hard to acknowledge

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Tejas is not one single fighter
It's morphing into Amca and complete air combat system fit to fight future wars unmanned

Yeah Yeah whatever, its also about a culture of political and departmental of the subcontinent that delays lots of defense projects when you're AMCA will out in 2035-2040 time frame Chinese will induct 6th gen jets and will start researching/development of their 7th gen jets

 

[mageera]

Yeah Yeah whatever, its also about a culture of political and departmental of the subcontinent that delays lots of defense projects when you're AMCA will out in 2035-2040 time frame Chinese will induct 6th gen jets and will start researching/development of their 7th gen jets

Chinese are good , worthy of praise . Same goes for any country trying to develope indigenous aircraft

 

[chinasun]

Among these three countries, South Korea is most likely to be the first to build a fifth-generation fighter jet, followed by Turkey, while India faces the greatest challenges. The radar of a fifth-generation fighter jet requires 14nm chip manufacturing. Both active electronically scanned array (AESA) radars and avionics systems also rely on chips. South Korea is a major player in chip manufacturing. Developing an aero-engine for a fifth-generation fighter jet demands top-tier manufacturing technology and decades of technical accumulation. Apart from which three countries , France and the UK have the capability to manufacture such engines. Furthermore, technologies like stealth, composite materials, and cutting-edge manufacturing all require 20 years of R&D. Additionally, aerodynamic design necessitates super-high-speed wind tunnels.

 

[LC150]

Chinese are good , worthy of praise . Same goes for any country trying to develope indigenous aircraft

yes... praise for effectivness

may be it is the indian education that is the problem ......you seem to hand out prizes for sucking in the field

kind of like those community school where you get a prize for just being in the contest

 

[mageera]

yes... praise for effectivness

may be it is the indian education that is the problem ......you seem to hand out prizes for sucking in the field

kind of like those community school where you get a prize for just being in the contest

Reservation for Castes in Every field Including R&d institution hurts india

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Chinese are good , worthy of praise . Same goes for any country trying to develope indigenous aircraft

And your out of this universe Tejas? Is it INDIGENIOUS?