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[Distant_Observer]

Look at this foolishness. Who needs enemies when you have retards like these. How can Pakistan grow when you have people attempting to disrupt progress?

What next? Sanctions on Pakistan if they don't bend over for India? Where do we draw the line.

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I agree now overseas must not have a vote. You must live and work in Pakistan to vote.

 

[Respect4Respect]

They have a Dirty Harry social media team that works on different shifts, day and night
they have to target the largest political party. Then they say we are neutral and these
goons are breaking their own oath Infront of Allah of not to interfere in politics.

Then they have also outsourced to Laal Topi social media team and also Goon League
sm team.

Secret Pakistani Program Directs Military Officers to Attack Social Media Critics and "Digital Terrorists"

In an unprecedented step, the army has ordered thousands of field officers to wage online war against supporters of deposed former prime minister Imran Khan and other opposition voices

www.dropsitenews.com

I noticed this a long time ago, if you go on TikTok, YT or X and read the comments, you’ll see that ISPR has hired people and bots to target individuals or groups disliked by the generals. First the abuse was aimed at Pathans after the May 9th false flag. Then it shifted to Balochs especially when Mahrang Baloch started her movement. More recently Kashmiris have come under attack for protesting.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Look at this foolishness. Who needs enemies when you have retards like these. How can Pakistan grow when you have people attempting to disrupt progress?

Firstly, where is this “progress” outside the hollow claims propagated by the disinformation apparatus run by the establishment and their handpicked puppets?

There can be no real progress, economic, social, or political, without genuine democracy. And we all know who stands squarely in the way.... the mighty military....

Any attempt to deny that or blame anyone else with no real power is simply barking up the wrong tree.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Firstly, where is this “progress” outside the hollow claims propagated by the disinformation apparatus run by the establishment and their handpicked puppets?

There can be no real progress, economic, social, or political, without genuine democracy. And we all know who stands squarely in the way.... the mighty military....

Any attempt to deny that or blame anyone else with no real power is simply barking up the wrong tree.

You cannot have a high trust inclusive political system without first teaching your people how to read and write. How not to cheat and steal. These are basics that your people need first.

The 1st world didn't become the top of the pyramid just because they had "democracy".

Every country has a deep state, men in the shadows, the puppet masters. It's a fact of life. Fighting it is fighting yourself. Especially when doing it in a foreign country and trying to force them to get involved.

If they really want to make a difference they should go back to Pakistan and do politics there.

 

[alphapak]

I agree now overseas must not have a vote. You must live and work in Pakistan to vote.

Shouldn't the Generals not have property, bank accounts and children overseas?

 

[gamaji]

I am sorry if I have hurt your feelings. But I want to let you know that it happens, world is a bitch. You will need to get strong emotionally. This is the only way.

Nothing to do with feelings. I am just trying to kick start your thought process. I didn't lose the hope yet.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Every country has a deep state, men in the shadows, the puppet masters. It's a fact of life. Fighting it is fighting yourself.

Yes, that’s true.... Freedom is but an illusion..... Deep states with all their imposed restrictions and limitations exist everywhere, yet for a society to thrive, those controls must remain hidden, allowing the illusion of freedom to persist. When these constraints become overt, the illusion crumbles... You can’t expect to control 250 million Pakistanis with a stick, unless your aim is to become the next N. Korea or Myanmar..


And on what grounds do you presume that democracy and educating populace are mutually exclusive, incapable of progressing in tandem?

 

[HAIDER]

Shouldn't the Generals not have property, bank accounts and children overseas?

Generals spent 8 to 9 million on US lobby firms last few months.

Some of the firms and their contracts include:

• Team Eagle Consulting: In October 2024, the Islamabad Policy Research Institute (IPRI)—a think tank linked to Pakistan's military—hired this firm for $1.5 million annually ($125,000 per month). The stated purpose was to enhance US-Pakistan relations and counter the growing influence of the Imran Khan lobby.
• Javelin Advisors: Co-founded by former Trump aides Keith Schiller and George Sorial, this firm was hired in May 2025. It was tasked with strengthening Pakistan's ties with the US government and private sector to create "long-term economic partnerships".
• Orchid Advisers: As of August 2025, this firm was reportedly receiving $250,000 per month to gain access to the Trump administration and multilateral institutions like the World Bank and IMF.
• Gunster Strategies Worldwide: This firm, led by Republican strategist Gerry Gunster, registered in January 2025 to represent Pakistan's Ministry of Interior.
• Other contracts: Other firms were hired between April and May 2025, bringing the total number of firms to at least 13 and the contract value to $3.55 million, with reports citing total lobbying expenditures at around $600,000 per month.

What is the purpose of the lobbying effort?
The hiring spree appears to serve several purposes for Pakistan and its military establishment:

• Influence the Trump administration: With Trump's anticipated return to power, Pakistan is working to build new channels of communication and influence with his network.
• Counter internal opposition: The effort aims to counter the narrative and growing influence of Pakistani-American advocates for former Prime Minister Imran Khan, particularly regarding human rights abuses in Pakistan.
• Rebrand Pakistan's image: The campaign seeks to reshape Pakistan's image in Washington, presenting it as an economic powerhouse and securing investments in its mineral sector.
• Advance military interests: The lobbying has led to closer defense cooperation, with the US approving an advanced missile sale to Pakistan after high-level military meetings in July 2025.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Generals spent 8 to 9 million on US lobby firms last few months.

Some of the firms and their contracts include:

• Team Eagle Consulting: In October 2024, the Islamabad Policy Research Institute (IPRI)—a think tank linked to Pakistan's military—hired this firm for $1.5 million annually ($125,000 per month). The stated purpose was to enhance US-Pakistan relations and counter the growing influence of the Imran Khan lobby.
• Javelin Advisors: Co-founded by former Trump aides Keith Schiller and George Sorial, this firm was hired in May 2025. It was tasked with strengthening Pakistan's ties with the US government and private sector to create "long-term economic partnerships".
• Orchid Advisers: As of August 2025, this firm was reportedly receiving $250,000 per month to gain access to the Trump administration and multilateral institutions like the World Bank and IMF.
• Gunster Strategies Worldwide: This firm, led by Republican strategist Gerry Gunster, registered in January 2025 to represent Pakistan's Ministry of Interior.
• Other contracts: Other firms were hired between April and May 2025, bringing the total number of firms to at least 13 and the contract value to $3.55 million, with reports citing total lobbying expenditures at around $600,000 per month.

What is the purpose of the lobbying effort?
The hiring spree appears to serve several purposes for Pakistan and its military establishment:

• Influence the Trump administration: With Trump's anticipated return to power, Pakistan is working to build new channels of communication and influence with his network.
• Counter internal opposition: The effort aims to counter the narrative and growing influence of Pakistani-American advocates for former Prime Minister Imran Khan, particularly regarding human rights abuses in Pakistan.
• Rebrand Pakistan's image: The campaign seeks to reshape Pakistan's image in Washington, presenting it as an economic powerhouse and securing investments in its mineral sector.
• Advance military interests: The lobbying has led to closer defense cooperation, with the US approving an advanced missile sale to Pakistan after high-level military meetings in July 2025.

To promote Pakistan and foster better relations with the US.

How does this even compare?

We are talking about these clowns who are "cutting off one's nose to spite one's face".

 

[Respect4Respect]

You cannot have a high trust inclusive political system without first teaching your people how to read and write. How not to cheat and steal. These are basics that your people need first.

That argument doesn’t hold up, Pakistan has plenty of capable people who could run the country well if they were actually given a fair chance. Saying the population isn’t ready for democracy just helps justify the illegal power grabs you support.

And let’s be real the generals you defend aren’t some special breed, they come from the same population you’re criticizing. If you think the people are the problem then so are the ones in charge. That means we’re stuck in a cycle where the wrong people keep rising and spreading their failures downward. It's not about the people it’s about a broken system that rewards loyalty over competence.

The First World didn’t wait for perfection before building democracies, they built systems that allowed people to participate, learn, and hold leaders accountable. Literacy and civic trust grow through democracy not by avoiding it.

So no thanks , we don’t need some elite class to educate the masses before giving them rights.

 

[HAIDER]

To promote Pakistan and foster better relations with the US.

How does this even compare?

We are talking about these clowns who are "cutting off one's nose to spite one's face".

This is govt site. But reality is different. What Pakistan getting out of this ?

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[VCheng]

Saying the population isn’t ready for democracy just helps justify the illegal power grabs you support.

The real tragedy of Pakistan lies in the fact that this recognition makes it a perverse incentive to ensure that the population is never made ready for democracy by sabotaging every initiative in that direction.

 

[Respect4Respect]

The real tragedy of Pakistan lies in the fact that this recognition makes it a perverse incentive to ensure that the population is never made ready for democracy by sabotaging every initiative in that direction.

We don’t need every single person in Pakistan to be highly educated for democracy to work. Out of 25 crore people we just need a few hundred capable individuals with the skills to run the country properly.
The real issue is elite capture, the same families have held power since Pakistan’s creation and they keep recycling themselves. As for the generals, they mostly come from middle class backgrounds and aren’t trying to fix the country. They’re chasing power and wealth hoping to climb into the elite class. It’s not about serving Pakistan, it’s about escaping their own social rank.

 

[Meengla]

Countries work on public trust and national sentiment. Unfortunately for Pakistan, Khan's tweets influence a substantial demographic of Pakistanis. This in turn impacts national initiatives. A good example is Khan's resistance to military operations in the frontier belt, and vitriol for Asim Muneer. His tweets are amplified by RAW bots and anti-state elements so much so that you will find otherwise well-meaning individuals calling the army napak and murtad and bashing the incumbent government for being terrorists, US lackeys, zionists and all sorts of nonsense. Pakistan desperately needs to curb the menace of terrorism and without clearing out the tribal strongholds, enduring peace will always be elusive. KPs stance on these operations is well-known. They happen anyway but the local population has no trust in the state's security apparatus.

That aside what puzzles me most is Khan's alignment with Afghan interests. I don't understand what he gains from platforming nationalists like Mahmood Achakzai.

Khan is not an insignificant person and words have tremendous power. Unfortunately he wields his speech to many a detriment of the people.

Oh Bhai. Simple truth is that Imran's personal and political emancipation is reduced to using the ethnic Pashtun Card and the resources of the K-P govt. Even the route through America, which his sons shamefully tried some months ago, is sealed. What a joke!! The same America which supposedly toppled him for 'Absolutely Not' became the agent for his emancipation.

But he is not alone in using some ethnic card: The Bhuttos and the Sharifs too used that, when convenient. But here were are talking about no less than the grandiose 'Riyasat e Medina' and the 'New Pakistan', the 'Real Freedom the 'Absolutely Not guy'.

Anyway, once we truly understand why Imran does and says what he does and says then we see his is no different from the old, discredited political class except he is even worse because he is the Ultimate Wisdom, the Machiavelli-Medina Messiah Khan in one person. He doesn't believe in any 'collective wisdom'.

And of course Indians like him!!!

 

[Distant_Observer]

Oh Bhai. Simple truth is that Imran's personal and political emancipation is reduced to using the ethnic Pashtun Card and the resources of the K-P govt. Even the route through America, which his sons shamefully tried some months ago, is sealed. What a joke!! The same America which supposedly toppled him for 'Absolutely Not' became the agent for his emancipation. Oh I am fool expat Pakistanis!!

But he is not alone in using some ethnic card: The Bhuttos and the Sharifs too used that, when convenient. But here were are talking about no less than the grandiose 'Riyasat e Medina' and the 'New Pakistan', the 'Real Freedom the 'Absolutely Not guy'.

Anyway, once we truly understand why Imran does and says what he does and says then we see his is no different from the old, discredited political class except he is even worse because he is the Ultimate Wisdom, the Machiavelli-Medina Messiah Khan in one person. He doesn't believe in any 'collective wisdom'.

And of course Indians like him!!!

Also someone with this ideology must never be allowed to take office again. A prime minister of a country that doesn't recognize his own borders

You call this democracy? This is a mockery of it

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