Afghanistan situation would get ‘very bad, very fast’: Miller

[hussain0216]

Yeap, been saying this for some time now. Both American establishment and Pakistani generals are itching for WOT 2.0. Bad terrorists, good war economy, generals minting money, with the tiny little matter of few thousands innocent dead on both sides of the border.

What have the generals and Americans got to do with it????

The Afghans keep causing fassad and bombing places

What exactly do you want Pakistan to do?

 

[Taimoor]

What have the generals and Americans got to do with it????

The Afghans keep causing fassad and bombing places

What exactly do you want Pakistan to do?

How many general become millionares in post 9/11 era? How many of them endup having family and financial interests in western block of nations?

Did we have this fasad during IK time?

Who gave yanks assurity of using Pakistan soil to bomb a newly independent Afghanistan post withdrawal, behind IK back, the absolutely not episode? And do you think its ok to allow your soil to be used against a sovereign neighbour by a third party? What that neighbour would take you as? How would you react if someone bomb your soil using the same tactic?

How many Pakistanis have to to die before you will call off this WOT? Doesnt it seems like the only purpose of Pakistan army is now to fight these so called terrorists and now other enemy nations like India are no issue of our generals. Then why need army then? police and para military would do!


What Pakistan needs to do you ask. For start, have a government which got peoples mandate to make all sort of policies, GHQ has nothing to do with it. And Stop f' ing make Pakistan armed forces as a terrorist fighting low level entity and make it focus on bigger and real issues which is to deal with enemy nations and their armed forces.

We MUST NEVER go down this WOT path ever again. Have we not learned anything after sacrificing 80k citizens?

 

[hussain0216]

How many general become millionares in post 9/11 era? How many of them endup having family and financial interests in western block of nations?

Did we have this fasad during IK time?

Who gave yanks assurity of using Pakistan soil to bomb a newly independent Afghanistan post withdrawal, behind IK back, the absolutely not episode? And do you think its ok to allow your soil to be used against a sovereign neighbour by a third party? What that neighbour would take you as? How would you react if someone bomb your soil using the same tactic?

How many Pakistanis have to to die before you will call off this WOT? Doesnt it seems like the only purpose of Pakistan army is now to fight these so called terrorists and now other enemy nations like India are no issue of our generals. Then why need army then? police and para military would do!


What Pakistan needs to do you ask. For start, have a government which got peoples mandate to make all sort of policies, GHQ has nothing to do with it. And Stop f' ing make Pakistan armed forces as a terrorist fighting low level entity and make it focus on bigger and real issues which is to deal with enemy nations and their armed forces.

We MUST NEVER go down this WOT path ever again. Have we not learned anything after sacrificing 80k citizens?

Buddy, it doesn't matter what government we have, whichever government will need to deal with the fassad and attacks coming out from Afghanistan

We can't let the afghans off the hook

 

[Taimoor]

Buddy, it doesn't matter what government we have, whichever government will need to deal with the fassad and attacks coming out from Afghanistan

We can't let the afghans off the hook

We can deal with whatever fasad is there when we have independent foreign policy and a government with full mandate to make whatever decisions need to be made. Dealing with our neighbour with the cooperation with yanks, even the thought is a treacherous thought, it will only bring chaos and more destruction to Pakistan. Why dont we learn from our mistakes?

 

[newb3e]

Amerika wants war slave army and generails dreaming of dollar and more land they will occupy!!!

 

[Oscar]

Did we have this fasad during IK time?

Technically there is no Fasad when you simply give up to a foe living in some panIslamic fantasia

 

[Taimoor]

Technically there is no Fasad when you simply give up to a foe living in some panIslamic fantasia

What "giving up" in your understanding is like? And did it actually happened?

Were they foe when yanks decided on your behalf to make them, a foe?

 

[Oscar]

What "giving up" in your understanding is like? And did it actually happened?

Were they foe when yanks decided on your behalf to make them, a foe?

The TTP were back in the area they were evicted out of from in 2007 and demanding tolls to ransoms with the KP government completely bending over.

And the Yanks did not oppose Pakistan’s creation in 47. Unfortunately, because of the constant tape recording playback provided to PTI supporters history seems to be limited to the IK speech transcripts.

Otherwise everything from the Faqir of Ipi to the 90s and today’s hostile Taliban government allowing terrorists into Pakistan would be a little more plausible

 

[Taimoor]

The TTP were back in the area they were evicted out of from in 2007 and demanding tolls to ransoms with the KP government completely bending over.

And the Yanks did not oppose Pakistan’s creation in 47. Unfortunately, because of the constant tape recording playback provided to PTI supporters history seems to be limited to the IK speech transcripts.

Otherwise everything from the Faqir of Ipi to the 90s and today’s hostile Taliban government allowing terrorists into Pakistan would be a little more plausible

TTP or whoever came back, was with the knowledge and consent from then establishment.

You see, the history is the concubine at the hands of those who wrote it. There is a difference between those who "read" history, and those who have witnessed it. I am sure IK is older then anyone who would called themselves establishment, and for me, I am the fortunate survivor and rather unfortunate witness of the infamous orgi camp calamity.

Bottom line is, unless and until we do not completely remove is rather ugly stigmata of being yank's b!tch, you will always have issues with most of the neighbours apart from India, ironic isn't it?

Put yourself in government of Afghanistan shoes, our generals overthrew the government with yanks collab and subsequently refusing people's will. What would they think of our country?

Build some credibility before deciding to go gung-ho, and that should be the last resort anyway.