AJK govt bans Joint Awami Action Committee, notification issued

[Goenitz]

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[arjunk]

I am suspicious of the JAAC's escalatory rhetoric, it seems like an attempt to hijack the name of Kashmir to blackmail the state with absurd demands like removing IOK refugee seats.

I also laugh at these leftist teenagers saying 'saar us kashmiris are discriminated against by Pakistan' -- no kid, you're a Punjabi Pahari, THE most privilaged demographic in Pakistan.

There's millions of Kashmiris living all over Pakistan, including me. I've never heard of or experienced a case of discrimination for being Kashmiri, and I lived through Karachi's worst years of ethnic strife.

I won't go too off topic but nowadays we see a lot of intellectually devoid, performative, and emotional leftisim in Pakistan as a whole -- as dangerous as taliban type nutjobs.

 

[Goenitz]

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[PakAl]

Dude

Please do not post unverified BS from social media. I have known organisers of the JKLF for over 3 decades.. These are some of the most patriotic people on the planet, many gave their lives for a freedom struggle.

Do not let sacrifices like theirs be stained.

Jammu Kashmir Liberation Front is the indigenous movement for the Kashmiri people, it has mixture of people but everyone loves Kashmir. Some people I met are angry at Islamabad but no doubt hate India more than anything. The Pakistan agencies promoted Jamaat Dawah and other extremist groups to bring down JKLF, even after all this JKLF survives.

 

[PakAl]

 

[PakAl]

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[arjunk]

Jammu Kashmir Liberation Front is the indigenous movement for the Kashmiri people, it has mixture of people but everyone loves Kashmir. Some people I met are angry at Islamabad but no doubt hate India more than anything. The Pakistan agencies promoted Jamaat Dawah and other extremist groups to bring down JKLF, even after all this JKLF survives.

JKLF is not entitled to Pakistan's unconditional support.

Pakistan, an Islamic country, will support Islamic groups who align with its own ideology.

JKLF's leftist ethno-nat ideology isn't really consistent or compaitble with Pakistan's. JKLF wants an independent secular Kashmir on the basis of Kashmiri identity; however, JKLF also lays claim to the non-Kashmiri regions of GB, AJK, Ladakh, etc.

 

[arjunk]

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Pakistani government is asleep, absolutely zero narrative management. Meanwhile, the cancer continues to spread...

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

We're you born yesterday ?

And see the choice of words MashAllah. Yaani the whole society of baluch and pashtoon are terrorists. Bhai wah.

I mean in terms of societal tolerance for general violence and tribalism as well as general hostility towards other ethnic groups and occasionally Pakistan, not every individual

It is a societal, cultural thing ive observed

 

[Sainthood 2.0]

Some demands, most of them are legitimate, the AJK Government and politicians live a luxurious life from the funds given to them, nepotism is high, new ministries and positions are created by the leaders for relatives and allies.

See if they stick to this than most people would support them
Elite privileges take up billions of $ from the Pakistan treasury; stick to that instead of all the other nonsense of free stuff and handouts.
But unfortunately, in Pakistan people only protest to get free stuff not for beating up elite class and babus.

 

[Sainthood 2.0]

AJK own revenue Rs60bn. Pakistan give them Rs250bn. These are figures from 2025-26 AJK budget.

Rs310bn budget for 4.5m people which are less then Rawalpindi district isn't small amount. So where does that money goes?

AJK would be more developed if it didn't have bloated state machinary. Rs40bn is given on annual wheat subsidy which is stupid. Instead this can finance Mirpur-Muzafarad motorway, industrialization, airport etc. Not sure what is the obsession of AJK/GB folk for getting subsdized wheat?
(they wanted almost free electricity too for god knows what reason when everyone else was struggling too)
Its clear with financial management like this AJK will remain backward always looking at Islamabad to give them more subsdies and money. Then you wonder why all these British Mirpuris are shifting to Islamabad/Lahore and no longer invest in Mirpur.

ONLY reason why I would never support their protests ONLY!!! reason!!
Because everything else is on point we need to beat the livingcrap outta this overbloated elite made up of corrupt politicians, bureaucrats, judges, retired generals
None of them worked hard for their money.

 

[Goenitz]

شہہ رگ سے دہشت گرد تک کا سفر
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[gamaji]

The protests were peaceful at first until police started their heavy shellings, firing on the protesters, then Punjab police and rangers did the same and protesters then retaliated. Now your calling protesters terrorists but what about the security forces and dacoit ruling elites.

The issue i see is what if someone wants to be patriotic Pakistani and wants to support our army and Pakistan, what stance can he she take. Because the same army establishment will impose corrupt dacoits to rule over us, we then will suffer at their behest. This is main reason people support the action committe, action committe is supported by Kashmiri awaam and nationalists, the nationalists are the ones spreading hate but the awaam has no choice but to support them since they are being killed, kidnapped by the security forces and dacoits leadership.

This is what happened during Bangladesh rebellion, KPK and Balochistan rebellion, the ruling elite are supported by army and establishment, how can a person be patriotic when suffering at the hands of those who claim they represent Pakistan and are true Pakistanis.

Why doesnt pro establishment parties such as PPP, Pmln, Pmlq, IPP start counter protests.

I am not willing to buy your chooran of "The protests were peaceful at first until police started their heavy shellings, firing on the protesters,..."
Peaceful protesters don't come fully armed to take on security forces.

Also, "Because the same army establishment will impose corrupt dacoits to rule over us, we then will suffer at their behest." is a moot point. Please remove your politically tainted glasses at least for this issue. If anything, their biggest blunder was to impose a filth on this nation in 2028. Anyhow, there is no justification for 'peaceful' protesters to kill security persons at all. These are simply terrorists and should be treated as such.

These namak-haram protesters use electricity where gas is normally use (such as tandoor, water tanks, etc. (according to a former president of Azad Kashmir). One of their leader was running a massive fake cigarette factory. A raid by officials was conducted on that illegal business just a couple of days ago.

There is deep nexus between the criminals, smugglers, mafias, and terrorists in Pakistan. They are deep rooted in Pak judiciary, bureaucracy, political cadres, etc. If and when the state tries to bust any of them, they all come out united to attack the state. It's already too late and the state has already retreated enough number of times. This is the time to crush these mafias once for all.

 

[HAIDER]

very sad situation in Kashmir.

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[RealNapster]

I mean in terms of societal tolerance for general violence and tribalism as well as general hostility towards other ethnic groups and occasionally Pakistan, not every individual

It is a societal, cultural thing ive observed

Will you also blame red indians (native Americans) for tribalism ? Will you also blame Maoris for tribalism ? Will you also blame bedouins of middle east for tribalism ?

Ethnicities that were culturally tribal for thousands of years won't stop existing the same way just because you say so. If the Baloch and pashtoon culture is based on thousands of years of tribal history then why is it a bad thing ?

That's response to your "tribalism" rhetoric. Now coming to tolerance to violence. Okay why this exists ? Because the state and it's ideology have made it so. Thanks to the state sponsored talibanisation of KP and Baluchistan to fight USSR and USA, we suffered so much that now these small incidents doesn't bother much. Do you know that Peshawar saw a time when less then 20 people used to die in a blast, we used to say Bachat ho gae. ? Why ? Because state of Pakistan wanted to flourish talibans because it wanted to play double games with USA.

Don't blame us for everything. You were blunt enough to blame whole society of KP and Baluchistan for being terrorist . You are just retracting your statement because I pointed out your biasness.