AJK govt bans Joint Awami Action Committee, notification issued

But - if we do agree that while the establishment is the core of a lot of ills -then it is also a mechanism that potentially could be used to deliver some form of solution because clearly all other avenues have failed.

In words of someone wise...jithay di khoti, othay hi aan khaloti. Why does that khoti reach the place same place every decade?

What needs to change so we finally come to the realization that this simply cannot happen?

And what solution might that be?
 
Selective truth is not truth. Omission of facts is also not truth. Obfuscation is also not truth. That is all before we even get to the possibility that simple lies are being "peddled".
You are known by the company you keep. Who else has banned Al Jazeera? The Zionist state and some family run dictatorships.
 
Semi confirmed as of now some lumber 1 related goons have taken over hospitals/clinics/pharmices and are refusing to sell the local people of AJK medicines
the people who got injured are either being denied treatment and have to look for volunteer doctors/nurses or are arrested when they arrive to get treated and whisked away in unmarked vehicles
as of now death toll stands at 80+ still a little bit far from the 100 digit mark
 
If they banned al jazeera over their selective reporting of our fight with TTA cavemen then i would have supported them but since they banned them on the correct and factual reporting of the situation in AJK it pretty much shows where lumber 1 priorities lie right now
 
But - if we do agree that while the establishment is the core of a lot of ills -then it is also a mechanism that potentially could be used to deliver some form of solution because clearly all other avenues have failed.
The only avenue you have tried is the establishment. Directly or from behind the scenes.
 
Words cannot express the disappointment I have in this military anymore. Every time I try to write a long paragraph to convey my feelings it falls short. I know I'm not alone. Everyone on this forum but the Markhor Fanboy gang is fed up too even if they're not saying it out loud.

The sheer arrogance and behaviour on display is maddening. It is polarising and teetering on the edge of treason. The holiness, the 'Us vs Them' and the 'With us or against us' mindset has proven to be a disaster.
 
Why do you think they are defending refugee seats so ardently?

70 saal baad bhi refugees with a connection and pain for Kashmir but business and loot in Lahore.

These days that conclusion is that a hard state is more successful in policy than a democratic state.


Hence the accusatory and us vs them mentality in their pressers.

Question is, when will reality hit?

You have cops surrendering to TTP and then getting kharcha pani to go home. There's only one party here winning hearts and minds and it ain't us. Then you say the locals support TTP and give them a safe haven. What else are they supposed to do when this is happening? Say no and get their head put on a stake?

The QRF going to the station got ambushed themselves. TTP has access to your quadcopters and drone guns 3 days after your photo ops. You set up a checkpoint outside Quetta and get ambushed. BLA might as well have a production house on retainer at this point.

And what do you do? Make fun of BLA's videos keh yeh terrorist organization nhn koi movie company hai, and then give a lecture on right and deference to the state and political economy.

The tone deafness is shocking.

"Major (Retd.) Mumtaz Hussain Shah in his accounts of the Battle of Sylhet Fortress, detailed how Pakistani units became completely cut off from each other. Convoys and Quick Reaction Forces (QRFs) sent to relieve besieged police stations or border outposts were routinely ambushed by guerrillas who had perfect local intelligence provided by the villagers"

"November 1971, Major General Rao Farman Ali (advisor to the Governor of East Pakistan) personally flew to Rawalpindi to brief the high-ups at GHQ. He clearly explained the "grim scenario" and warned that a massive Indian invasion, aided by the Mukti Bahini, was imminent.

Despite direct reports from Major General Farman Ali and Eastern Command about the imminent encirclement and the complete loss of local control, GHQ in Rawalpindi essentially dismissed the gravity of the situation. In response to Eastern Command's desperate pleas for reinforcements to stop an all-out invasion, Rawalpindi dispatched a completely inadequate force of only six companies of soldiers to Dhaka just before the full war broke out"


Now I am not saying things are the same everywhere but Balochistan & KP is mirroring here with the same tactics applied.

Same "neutralized" figures released by briefings. Same "all cleared" reports year after year, Government(we need to take every government and not just the current one into account) after government...

The AJK situation is not there yet - but at this point REGARDLESS of foreign funding or not - JAAC is now essentially creating the space for either mass calls for AJK independence(regardless of what India does or does not do)

My solution is real democracy as it has not been tried here in 80 years.... not once given a clean run.... That is the untested door..... And if we try it and still fail, at least we fail on a principle instead of on our knees....
I disagree in that both the window - and the will for this does not exist and NO PROOF exists that this can EVER be implemented without total suppression or plain hijacking along ethnic(as already evidenced) lines.

I see the lack of ability with the collective and individual known as Pakistanis - regardless of ethnicity, gender, generation or job title to achieve or give rights.
 
Words cannot express the disappointment I have in this military anymore. Every time I try to write a long paragraph to convey my feelings it falls short. I know I'm not alone. Everyone on this forum but the Markhor Fanboy gang is fed up too even if they're not saying it out loud.

The sheer arrogance and behaviour on display is maddening. It is polarising and teetering on the edge of treason. The holiness, the 'Us vs Them' and the 'With us or against us' mindset has proven to be a disaster.
But, this disappointment is useless and frankly ok as an emotion to watch the fire from the sidelines - not to actually provide solutions to seek change in any meaningful way that still preserves the state.
 
But, this disappointment is useless and frankly ok as an emotion to watch the fire from the sidelines - not to actually provide solutions to seek change in any meaningful way that still preserves the state.

I know this is a discussion forum but really why bother at all. Its not like any idea here could eventually bounce its way up to the political/industrial/social circles. Even if it did it wouldn't matter because they have no power.

Army has all the power and they see every problem as a nail and themselves the hammer. Their thinking is binary and tunnel visioned. They are incapable of handling such sensitive issues but we have no choice but to watch them fumble like they always have since the 50s when they first took over (or earlier if you believe the ambulance breaking down wasn't random).
 
In words of someone wise...jithay di khoti, othay hi aan khaloti. Why does that khoti reach the place same place every decade?

What needs to change so we finally come to the realization that this simply cannot happen?

And what solution might that be?
Well - lets look at it if this was a company - also enjoyable (in a twisted way) by letting AI do its thing.

So if Pakistan was a company - it would be a leveraged industrial group with a security subsidiary that owns the holding company.

And if the CEO of the company is doing:
CEO behaviourCorporate outcome if this were a firm
Title inflation / dual roleBoard independence collapses; agency risk spikes (classic dual-CEO problem)
Strategy set by promoter, not boardStrategy becomes unchallengeable; bad bets not killed early
External IR over internal opsStock pops on “strategic partnership” headlines while factories burn
Hard internal cultureShort-term compliance, long-term fear culture, bad news doesn’t travel up
Brand messaging that backfiresMarkets hear “we’re the ugly truck that can wreck the luxury car”—customers and talent flee; partners price in volatility
Kinetic “restructuring” of problem unitsCost-cutting by closing stores instead of fixing product; regional franchises go hostile
Political interference as “aligned management”Related-party deals; minority shareholders (voters) lose voice

What is "management" optimizing:
International Relations = Investor Relations + Key Account Sales
A company whose CEO spends most of the week on roadshows and strategic MoUs, while plant managers report rising accidents, theft, and walkouts.

Performance grade (IR side): mixed / short-term pass
Customers buy one product only (security cooperation), not the whole conglomerate. That’s like surviving on a single defence contract while consumer and industrial arms bleed.

Internal Policy = Operations, HR, Franchise Control

KP & Balochistan = loss-making regions where local “store managers” (police) are attacked, QRFs ambushed, and “competitors” (TTP/BLA) take shelf space. Leadership’s answer is more security headcount and kill metrics, not a new customer-value proposition.

AJK = angry franchisee association (JAAC) banned after pricing/representation disputes—classic “sue the franchisees” move that kills brand loyalty.

Political HR = high turnover, loyalty filters, weak independent directors

Culture = “hard state” = command-and-control, not continuous improvement.

A multi-province retail/industrial group where HQ answers every store riot with more security guards and a ban on staff unions, while refusing to renegotiate rent, wages, or profit share.

Performance grade (ops side): fail / deteriorating - HQ metrics and PR over ground P&L.

Here your cabinet are hired professional managers and PM is CEO of a subsidiary who must hit quarterly cash covenants while the group Executive Chairman runs M&A, firing, and external alliances without board minutes.

So you have stabilization without strategy which leads to:

Credit rating under permanent watch
Cost of capital up
Talent flight
Regional write-downs — Balochistan/KP treated as impaired assets; security opex crowds out growth capex.

Medium term outlook options:

Optimistic Soft landing: Executive Chairman steps back; real independent board (parliament/judiciary); political settlement in loss-making regions = turnaround plan.

Distressed sale / breakup - worst case: “subsidiaries” (Baloch/KP dynamics) become permanent drag leading to either forced or even voluntary spin off?

Zombie firm (most likely): Survives on creditor forbearance and one big client (geopolitics), never compounds value for ordinary shareholders (citizens).

The current style of leadership means - they represented by FM can still look like a deal-making Executive Chairman. Internally the firm is running the classic failure mode: HQ believes the strategy deck; the branches are on fire. In corporate life that ends in forced restructuring or breakup.
 
police burning motorcycles. @hussain0216, your jahil police are burning transportation. Enemy of development. I think BLA is their ideal.
P.S. I am labelling them police for sentimental purposes.
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And what solution might that be?
Keeping the theme going just a bit before we come back to the issue at hand - and for some different perspective.... or a good laugh.. @Cipher212 relax a little.

The answer is not “pick a saviour CEO.” It is redesign the org chart, then hire for specific seats.

A serious CEO of Pakistan Inc. needs six capabilities:
  • Capital structure — IMF, debt, tax base, SBP independence (CFO brain)
  • Multi‑province ops — KP, Balochistan, AJK as turnaround divisions, not enemy territory
  • IR / key accounts — US, China, Gulf, India risk management without personal brand theatre
  • Governance — accept a real board (parliament, courts, provinces); no dual CEO with GHQ
  • Product — growth model beyond “security rents + remittances + bailouts”
  • EQ under fire — negotiate with enemies and allies without turning every dispute into a loyalty test

You need a CEO + independent Chair + strong CFO + Chief Restructuring Officer for the periphery

Now this is where I enjoyed some Peach Malt and Nimco based on Dajj-AI-ls output:

Tier A — Plausible Centre of Gravity​

Imran Khan​

  • Fit: Still the strongest demand-side brand; can mobilise “shareholder” energy nationwide; anti-corruption story still sells; forces any settlement to deal with the largest excluded bloc.
  • Miss: Structural block (legal/political); historically weak coalition craft and board management; opposition mode often maximises chaos over institution-building; personalisation of the party.
  • Verdict: CEO only inside hard rules (independent election + real cabinet + no revenge HR). Otherwise he is a blocked founder(AHAHAA - EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE ALWAYS SAID ABOUT HIM) , not a deployable chief executive.

Shehbaz Sharif​

  • Fit: Best pure operator among electables—crisis administration, project push, coalition maintenance, deals with bureaucracy and business.
  • Miss: Not a strategy or legitimacy reset CEO; little appetite or power to redesign civil–military terms; Punjab delivery ≠ federation turnaround; reads as promoter-compatible management.
  • Verdict: COO / implementation PM, not sole turnaround CEO. Pair with a real CFO spine(lol) and a periphery settlement lead.

Bilawal Bhutto Zardari​

  • Fit: Federal instinct, younger national brand, better default IR optics than most dynasts, coalition manners, PPP’s Sindh+Balochistan arithmetic.
  • Miss: Limited scar tissue running a full crisis economy; party still patronage-heavy; can look lightweight next to hard power and street populists.
  • Verdict: Credible medium-term CEO track if locked to a ruthless CFO and written military non-interference. Not a solo saviour today.

Maryam Nawaz​

  • Fit: Political animal; message discipline; Punjab machine; can run a large “business unit” with aggression.
  • Miss: Polarising outside core base; national trust thinner than Punjab power; governance and dynasty optics.
  • Verdict: Star Punjab divisional CEO. Risky as group CEO without a neutral Chair and power-sharing formula.

Asif Ali Zardari​

  • Fit: Elite bargain broker; keeps multi-party maths alive; understands Pakistan’s real power market.
  • Miss: Trust and corruption overhang; wrong face for a reform equity story; not an operating or moral-reset CEO.
  • Verdict: Back-room Chair of the shareholders’ agreement, never the public turnaround CEO.

Nawaz Sharif​

  • Fit: Residual economic-management brand with part of the electorate; heavyweight in any grand bargain; PML-N still a core holding.
  • Miss: Age, legal/exile history, Punjab-centrism, repeated cycles with the establishment without fixing the structure.
  • Verdict: Elder Chair / pact guarantor, not day-to-day group CEO.

Shamshad Akhtar​

  • Fit: Rare adult combo—SBP, finance ministry, multilateral credibility; speaks creditor and institutional language; low theatrics.
  • Miss: No mass electoral machine; cannot alone hold the street or the generals.
  • Verdict: Ideal CFO or dual-key finance chief; possible non-executive Chair of economic governance. Not elected group CEO without a political face.

Reza Baqir​

  • Fit: Top-tier macro/IMF literacy; knows the external constraint; clean technocratic profile.
  • Miss: Easy to smear as “IMF man”; zero independent politics; implementation depends entirely on political cover.
  • Verdict: SBP / programme architect / CFO kitchen cabinet. Not PM.

Miftah Ismail​

  • Fit: Willing to say fiscal truth; reform vocabulary; business+politics hybrid.
  • Miss: Burned by party warfare; limited street; truth-telling without power becomes op-ed.
  • Verdict: Strong finance minister / fiscal board lead under a protective CEO. Not sole CEO

Tier B — Serious Secondary Politicians (AI is on 1000mg THC +CBD)​

Maulana Fazlur Rehman​

  • Fit: Ulema + street veto; national network; openly frames the uniform-vs-ballot question; useful blocking director on any over-centralising CEO.
  • Miss: Not a modern growth/export CEO; coalition rent-seeking history; social agenda clashes with global capital story.
  • Verdict: Powerful board minority / moral-political veto, not group CEO.

Mahmood Khan Achakzai​

  • Fit: Principled federalist voice; Pashtun legitimacy without TTP contamination; useful conscience on rights and federation design.
  • Miss: Small seat share; limited executive machinery.
  • Verdict: Federation ethics / constitutional director; must be in the room, not in the corner office alone.

Akhtar Mengal​

  • Fit: Electoral Baloch legitimacy; can sit across the table on political settlement in a way Islamabad enforcers cannot.
  • Miss: Fragmented Baloch field; limited federal admin depth; cannot “deliver” all Balochistan alone.
  • Verdict: Essential Balochistan political track lead in any CRO structure. Not federal CEO.

Mustafa Kamal​

  • Fit: Delivery politician brand (city/health ops); execution energy; less dynasty sludge than some peers.
  • Miss: Federal ceiling unclear; past party switches hurt trust; not a full-spectrum security+macro CEO.
  • Verdict: Municipal / social-sector ops CEO or strong federal minister. Stretch for PM.

Sirajul Haq (JI)​

  • Fit: Organised cadre; ideological clarity; clean-personal brand relative to many; useful on anti-corruption optics.
  • Miss: Economic modernity and IR flexibility limited; ceiling on plural coalition leadership.
  • Verdict: Coalition director / moral bloc, not group CEO.

Khalid Maqbool Siddiqui (MQM-P)​

  • Fit: Karachi urban machine; can unlock or block Pakistan’s economic lung.
  • Miss: Client of larger pacts; Mohajir lane not national story; trust volatility.
  • Verdict: Karachi divisional deal partner. Not federal CEO.

Ishaq Dar​

  • Fit: Knows the creditor ritual, finance ministry choreography, PML-N economic priesthood.
  • Miss: Markets often unconvinced; credibility gaps on numbers and path; old playbook.
  • Verdict: Transitional finance politician at best. Prefer Shamshad/Baqir-class for real CFO seat.

Ahsan Iqbal​

  • Fit: Planning continuity, documentation, “vision” paperwork, steady minister profile.
  • Miss: Incrementalism; not a crisis restructuring CEO; low fear factor for vested interests.
  • Verdict: Planning / narrative minister, not group CEO.

Khawaja Asif​

  • Fit: Blunt communicator; defence/foreign experience; can front tough lines.
  • Miss: Not a systems builder; polarising style; no full economic operating system.
  • Verdict: Civilian defence or foreign minister, never dual CEO with GHQ.

Mohsin Naqvi​

  • Fit: Establishment-compatible operator; admin and comms utility; Punjab familiarity.
  • Miss: Legitimacy problem as national CEO; reads as installed management.
  • Verdict: Tactical admin/comms, not reform CEO.

Asad Umar​

  • Fit: Real private-sector CFO brain + cabinet experience; can talk growth and markets.
  • Miss: Party polarisation; unfinished political brand; needs a bigger political roof.
  • Verdict: High-value finance/economy minister on a legitimacy ticket. Stretch co-CEO only in a unity cabinet.

Pervez Khattak (and senior KP PTI class)​

  • Fit: KP roots; knows the police/insurgency political economy better than Islamabad talkers.
  • Miss: National ceiling; party captivity; mixed governance record.
  • Verdict: KP bridge / provincial settlement table, not federal CEO.

Sheikh Rashid​

  • Fit: Populist antenna; media disruption; Rawalpindi symbolism.
  • Miss: No scale, no coalition glue, no institutional project.
  • Verdict: Spoiler/satirist director. No executive seat.

Tier C — Military (Named Logic + Types)​

Asim Munir​

  • Fit: Command depth; intel background; high-level IR access; can impose short-term order and external relevance.
  • Miss: As de facto group CEO: dual power, hard-state reflex, periphery treated kinetically, political HR allegations, title stacking = board capture.
  • Verdict: CSO only, on a leash. As Executive Chairman of Pakistan Inc., expected corporate outcome is control up, enterprise value down in the regions.

“Next COAS / service chiefs” (office, not personality cult)​

  • Fit: Professional warfighting, nuclear stewardship, counter-terror ops under policy.
  • Miss: Incentive system still pulls toward domestic politics and economic fiefs.
  • Verdict: CSO slate. Promote only those who accept written subordinate role to elected CEO.

Qamar Javed Bajwa (retired)​

  • Fit: Lived the hybrid years; knows costs of political engineering.
  • Miss: Credibility spent; associated with the problem set.
  • Verdict: Case study, not a return CEO/Chair.

Retired three-star “implementer” (class)​

  • Fit: Logistics, disaster, infrastructure execution discipline; time-bound SOE or project tsar utility.
  • Miss: Mission creep; Fauji/commercial conflicts; public reads “uniform back in charge.”
  • Verdict: Narrow CRO for a factory or flood authority, fixed term, civilian KPIs. Never political CEO.

Ex-ISI / MI professionals (class)​

  • Fit: Threat picture, external networks, crisis warning.
  • Miss: Domestic political misuse is the national disease.
  • Verdict: NSA to the PM with statutory limits—not parallel PM.

Air / Naval leadership (institutional)​

  • Fit: Genuine jointness, external domains (sea/air) underfunded in army-centric politics.
  • Miss: Cannot outvote army political weight alone.
  • Verdict: Full joint chiefs under civilian defence cabinet; avoid army-only CDF-as-owner model.

Uniformed group-CEO archetype (Musharraf model)​

  • Fit: Speed, fear, temporary macro stabilisations historically.
  • Miss: Hollowed parties/courts; exit disasters; 1971-method risk on internal dissent.
  • Verdict: No. Structural fail as permanent design.

Tier D — Businessmen & Industrialists​

Mian Muhammad Mansha​

  • Fit: Real scale CEO (banking + industry); capital allocation instinct; understands credit and conglomerates.
  • Miss: Peak-elite optics; no electoral licence; capture narrative writes itself.
  • Verdict: Chair of privatisation / national wealth board. Not elected PM.

Arif Habib​

  • Fit: Capital-markets fluency; SOE sale and listing mechanics; talks investor language.
  • Miss: Conflict-of-interest landmines; street illegitimacy.
  • Verdict: Markets / divestment mechanic on a transparent board.

Atif Bajwa​

  • Fit: Actual bank CEO scars; regulation and balance-sheet reality; credible with lenders.
  • Miss: Needs political roof; not a mass politician.
  • Verdict: Banking-system advisor or finance deputy. Strong Tier-A adjacent for CFO complex.

Muhammad Ali Tabba​

  • Fit: Modern industrial group leadership; export/industrial policy fluency; younger conglomerate professionalism.
  • Miss: Sector bias; no votes.
  • Verdict: Industrial policy + export council chair.

Musadaq Zulqarnain​

  • Fit: Manufacturing/export operator; earns in the real economy.
  • Miss: Narrow lane; lobby risk.
  • Verdict: Export war-room lead, not group CEO.

Shahzad Saleem / Zaid Bashir (next-gen industrial)​

  • Fit: Continuity of large groups with slightly fresher lens; board-ready.
  • Miss: Dynasty optics; untested nationally.
  • Verdict: Independent directors on SOE and SEZ boards.

Gohar Ejaz​

  • Fit: Textile/power-sector muscle; has done commerce-adjacent public roles; crisis-sector knowledge.
  • Miss: Lobbyist capture risk; not a federation healer.
  • Verdict: Sector crisis manager under strict conflict rules.

Syed Babar Ali​

  • Fit: Institution builder (industry + education philanthropy); moral authority in business class; long-horizon.
  • Miss: Age; cannot run daily politics.
  • Verdict: Near-ideal non-executive Chair / conscience of the capital class.

Hussain Dawood / Dawood orbit​

  • Fit: Energy, education, longer-cycle capital; sophisticated group governance exposure.
  • Miss: Insider-access perception.
  • Verdict: Energy transition + skills board, ring-fenced.

Irfan Siddiqui (Meezan)​

  • Fit: “Clean” financial brand; execution reputation; Islamic finance depth for domestic deposit base.
  • Miss: Not a political CEO; sector-narrow.
  • Verdict: Financial inclusion / banking standards lead.

Fawad Anwar / Sapphire-class textile principals​

  • Fit: FX-earning P&L; global buyer networks.
  • Miss: Collective action weak; policy rent-seeking history in the sector.
  • Verdict: Export P&L council, plural not singular CEO.

Fauji / Shaheen / Bahria commercial leadership​

  • Fit: Scale in fertiliser, food, banking, energy; project execution.
  • Miss: Dual role with state power = governance poison; crowds out private competitors.
  • Verdict: Recuse from policy or strict firewall. Not “CEO of Pakistan.” If used, only as normal taxpayers under competition law.

Forbes Under 30 Asia–class founders (Kidwai, Hussain, Ismail, Shahbaz, Ghani, etc.)​

  • Fit: Option value on tech, brands, global upside; youth story.
  • Miss: Not ready for state monopoly on violence or IMF politics.
  • Verdict: Innovation advisory council. Decades from group CEO.

Tier E — Technocrats & Professional State CEOs​

Ishrat Husain​

  • Fit: Deep institutional-reform brain; civil service and SOE diagnostics.
  • Miss: Age; blueprints without power become books.
  • Verdict: SOE / civil-service redesign architect with statutory teeth.

Umar Saif​

  • Fit: Digital state capacity, education/tech delivery, modern ops mindset.
  • Miss: Needs heavy political cover; easy to sideline.
  • Verdict: Chief Digital & Skills Officer.

Sania Nishtar​

  • Fit: Global health/systems brand; policy integrity reputation; can run complex social programmes.
  • Miss: Needs insulation from party HR.
  • Verdict: Health & social protection CEO (minister-plus).

Hafeez Shaikh​

  • Fit: Knows the IMF corridor and finance ministry pipes.
  • Miss: Political toxicity and trust deficits with large publics.
  • Verdict: Back-office programme technician only if unavoidable—prefer cleaner names.

Senior finance secretaries / SBP deputies / SECP chairs (clean cohort)​

  • Fit: Continuity of the pipes; regulatory detail.
  • Miss: Anonymous; fired when politics shifts.
  • Verdict: Permanent CFO office under legal independence norms.

Energy technocrats (power/petroleum professionals)​

  • Fit: Keep the lights on; circular debt is a CEO-level P&L hole.
  • Miss: IPP/capture gravity.
  • Verdict: Energy P&L chief with published loss-reduction KPIs.


    Condensed Scoreboard (Who Goes Where)​

    SeatShortlist (Fit → Verdict already above)
    Group CEO (PM)Constrained Imran or Bilawal track or Shehbaz-as-COO on unity ticket—not Munir
    Non-exec ChairBabar Ali–class / Shamshad-class / respected jurist elder
    CFO complexShamshad, Baqir, Miftah, Atif Bajwa-adjacent, Asad Umar
    COOShehbaz
    Punjab BUMaryam
    CSOMunir or successor only if subordinate
    Deal ChairZardari / Nawaz elder role
    Balochistan politicalMengal + wider table
    Federation conscienceAchakzai + rights mediators
    Export/SOE boardMansha, Tabba, Habib, textile principals under conflict rules
    Digital/skillsUmar Saif
    Health/socialSania Nishtar
    KarachiMQM-P + urban delivery type (Mustafa Kamal-class)
    Ulema veto directorFazl (board politics, not CEO)


 

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