Asfandyar Bhittani
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
You are right, I can't for the life of me think of a single reason why the neck doesn't vote for the sword. Not one.
Cryptonian
Registered Member
Rather call it snake. For 70 years it voted for parties who were anti-Hindu on face, those parties didn't fed it but just kept it in showcase.
It's being well fed by current govt. Given a chance to reconcile. Modi put his political clout on the line when he met Nawaz, then Pulwama happened and he never looked back.
Modi is again putting his clout on the line, getting called as maulana Modi from own supporters for providing pasmanda muslims more freebies and freeing them from ashraaf rulers.
More Muslims got govt scholarships under Modi govt than during Congress-led UPA-2
There were 2.37 crore Muslim beneficiaries of govt scholarships during Modi's first term, while the figure under Manmohan's second was 2.33 crore.
theprint.in
Musings
Administrator
I hate the bastard for 1 reason - a personal reason.
Mohammed Aswad was our captain of our local cricket team. Came to me in Jan 14th 2002 to tell me how excited he was that I’d joined his team and he was going to India to see family - when he returns we will practice and get ready for the season.
Sadly was lynched and murdered by a raging mob encouraged and armed by this dwarf Modi. Instigated and allowed a free hand to kill innocent people.
Mohammed Aswat left 4 little children and a wife. Watched those kids grow up - looked out for them and they are lovely mature kids. Dad would have been proud.
Coming back to this bastard Modi. He was banned from entry in the civilised world for 10 years - says it all whether to confirm how the world regarded him.
Vile man with blood on his hands. A man that won’t acknowledge his wife and has created massive division in India.
When members come on here and say Modi jee - i bite my lip……..
TheChooChooTrain
Registered Member
You are probably going to ban me if I disagree with you, so I will just agree with you.
Nah man
Still not impressed with your evil Muslim innocent Hindu rant
Bring something new and not same low IQ hindutva BS
Musings
Administrator
I gave you my personal reason for hating him. If you think he is responsible for all
Things bright in India - that’s fine. You have
A right to an opinion….
TheChooChooTrain
Registered Member
Yes, except he is not responsible for the said riots. The entire congress party with their entire legal, judicial, financial power which they had for 12 years, could not convict him due to lack of evidence.
Raj-Hindustani
Elite Member
point 1
Why would the BJP need to lose its hardcore Hindu supporters for a few MPs? i have already explained it.
> better Ans is below ..
20% Muslims voted for BJP in 2019 general elections, says Pew survey
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have ever tried to understand - why still BJP gets vote from Muslims even if they are anti muslims?
The reason is very simple - muslims getting the same benefits which runs by the government's schemes
just one example:
..............
Point 2
Imran khan used to play religious cards, and played almost every cards to get the sympathy and popularity in Pakistan. just below from neutral source about Imran khan....
'Taliban Khan'
As a politician, Imran Khan publicly upholds liberalism, but at the same time appeals to Islamic values and anti-West sentiment. On his watch, there was a significant rise in Islamist militancy in Pakistan, and religious extremists strengthened their position.He has been criticised as sympathetic towards the Taliban, and branded "Taliban Khan" by opponents. In 2020 there was an outcry after he called Osama Bin Laden a martyr.
Imran Khan: The cricket star and former PM who is dividing Pakistan
Some see Imran Khan as an anti-establishment hero - others say he is power-hungry and corrupt.
www.bbc.com
Point 3 -
Pakistan politician's and medias- do you want me to share evidence about obsessions with India, Modi and RSS?
people of pakistan , might they know nothing about RSS organization and how it works, but guarantee is that they know - how bad are they. it starts from the textbooks about hindus and India etc
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About rights - all minorities are getting the same rights - yes, they face the challenges being minorities - some cases. i already tried to explain that minorities mostly face challenges everywhere in the world.
Top of that Indian Muslims face unique challenges due to Pakistan's interference and obsessions with India's local & political affairs. it caused more challenges to them.. the statements come from Pakistan and politicians add more trouble to them.
Example- basic Pakistan's believe that muslims and hindus can live together and separated base on religious. out of 1000, Indian muslims even 1 will agree and say something - it cause troubles to rest 999 Muslims as well.
best response was already given sometimes back - it will great help to indian muslims if Pakistan follows.
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That_Guy
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
Lmao, it find it hilarious that you used a quote from Condoleezza rice who was a fucking war criminal.
Asfandyar Bhittani
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
point 1
Why would the BJP need to lose its hardcore Hindu supporters for a few MPs? i have already explained it.
> better Ans is below ..
20% Muslims voted for BJP in 2019 general elections, says Pew survey
--------------
have ever tried to understand - why still BJP gets vote from Muslims even if they are anti muslims?
The reason is very simple - muslims getting the same benefits which runs by the government's schemes
just one example:
..............
Point 2
Imran khan used to play religious cards, and played almost every cards to get the sympathy and popularity in Pakistan. just below from neutral source about Imran khan....
'Taliban Khan'
As a politician, Imran Khan publicly upholds liberalism, but at the same time appeals to Islamic values and anti-West sentiment. On his watch, there was a significant rise in Islamist militancy in Pakistan, and religious extremists strengthened their position.
He has been criticised as sympathetic towards the Taliban, and branded "Taliban Khan" by opponents. In 2020 there was an outcry after he called Osama Bin Laden a martyr.
---------------------------Imran Khan: The cricket star and former PM who is dividing Pakistan
Some see Imran Khan as an anti-establishment hero - others say he is power-hungry and corrupt.
Point 3 -
Pakistan politician's and medias- do you want me to share evidence about obsessions with India, Modi and RSS?
people of pakistan , might they know nothing about RSS organization and how it works, but guarantee is that they know - how bad are they. it starts from the textbooks about hindus and India etc
----------------
About rights - all minorities are getting the same rights - yes, they face the challenges being minorities - some cases. i already tried to explain that minorities mostly face challenges everywhere in the world.
Top of that Indian Muslims face unique challenges due to Pakistan's interference and obsessions with India's local & political affairs. it caused more challenges to them.. the statements come from Pakistan and politicians add more trouble to them.
Example- basic Pakistan's believe that muslims and hindus can live together and separated base on religious. out of 1000, Indian muslims even 1 will agree and say something - it cause troubles to rest 999 Muslims as well.
best response was already given sometimes back - it will great help to indian muslins if Pakistan follows.
Most of your rehtoiric is either side stepping or whataboutism. Imran Khan hasn't killed hindus in pogroms or overseen a skyrocketing cases of lynchings. Comparison was hilarious at first, not just in bad faith. Being religious and being murdering lunatic who dog whistles his way into politics. "Infiltrators", "those with many children", are normal at BJP rallies. I am sure you could find such quotes from Taliban Khan on Hindus in political rallies since you are so concerned with false equivalence. Start with how many Pogroms Imran Khan has overseen.
As far Indian Muslims are concerned, again you refuse to answer why would Hindus abandon BJP over Muslim MPs? Are they extremists or what? And if they are and BJP is bowing to them instead of its own "not anti Muslim" stand, doesn't that also make it extremist too.
As far as Pakistani media is concerned, it's a gutter and yet, it's no match to godi media.
Last but not least, why is that no one, whether that be in India or Pakistan or rest of the world, no one believes this "BJP isn't anti Muslim" lie?
It's time to introspect rather than try to hide the sun with a finger. It will never work in this day and age of instant information
And if anyone else wants the answer to the question, whether BJP is anti Muslim or not, I would recommend indian Muslim journalists, activists, and civil society members. Not me or BJP IT cell. People like Zubair are doing God's work in this regard.
DevendraRajput
Registered Member
There is a running joke... Even if BJP razes every mosque and build a temple on top of it, abrogate waqf board, abrogate place of worship act, take away muslims right to vote or hold any govt job or position, even then ... there will be a trad Mandali on twitter who will call Modi as "Maulana Modi" for not doing enough.
TheChooChooTrain
Registered Member
point 1
Why would the BJP need to lose its hardcore Hindu supporters for a few MPs? i have already explained it.
> better Ans is below ..
20% Muslims voted for BJP in 2019 general elections, says Pew survey
--------------
have ever tried to understand - why still BJP gets vote from Muslims even if they are anti muslims?
The reason is very simple - muslims getting the same benefits which runs by the government's schemes
just one example:
..............
Point 2
Imran khan used to play religious cards, and played almost every cards to get the sympathy and popularity in Pakistan. just below from neutral source about Imran khan....
'Taliban Khan'
As a politician, Imran Khan publicly upholds liberalism, but at the same time appeals to Islamic values and anti-West sentiment. On his watch, there was a significant rise in Islamist militancy in Pakistan, and religious extremists strengthened their position.
He has been criticised as sympathetic towards the Taliban, and branded "Taliban Khan" by opponents. In 2020 there was an outcry after he called Osama Bin Laden a martyr.
---------------------------Imran Khan: The cricket star and former PM who is dividing Pakistan
Some see Imran Khan as an anti-establishment hero - others say he is power-hungry and corrupt.
Point 3 -
Pakistan politician's and medias- do you want me to share evidence about obsessions with India, Modi and RSS?
people of pakistan , might they know nothing about RSS organization and how it works, but guarantee is that they know - how bad are they. it starts from the textbooks about hindus and India etc
----------------
About rights - all minorities are getting the same rights - yes, they face the challenges being minorities - some cases. i already tried to explain that minorities mostly face challenges everywhere in the world.
Top of that Indian Muslims face unique challenges due to Pakistan's interference and obsessions with India's local & political affairs. it caused more challenges to them.. the statements come from Pakistan and politicians add more trouble to them.
Example- basic Pakistan's believe that muslims and hindus can live together and separated base on religious. out of 1000, Indian muslims even 1 will agree and say something - it cause troubles to rest 999 Muslims as well.
best response was already given sometimes back - it will great help to indian muslims if Pakistan follows.
just ignore this thread and move on. The last thing we need to do is take lecture from Pakistanis on Religious freedom. Might as well take lecture from Hitler on his love for jews.
K
KAAFIR
Guest
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Why you are worried about Indian muslims? They don't even owns you. They hate you to the core. If Pakistan today Start giving free citizenship to Indian Muslims, I bet you not even one Indian Muslim is Going to apply.
But if India starts giving free citizenship to Pakistan muslims, there would be an emergency in Pakistan.
Raj-Hindustani
Elite Member
You are hitting to BJP and Modi, being a part of right wing and having strong support from Hindu organisations.
It's very natural that if those Hindus organisations support him, and if he wins the political seat and occupied such important position. Automatically, those people also gets more power and benefits..... I don't think, it's difficult to understand.
India.n Muslims used to get the special attention from the parties for the vote politics. A few Muslims leaders became very strong also but not benefits to Muslims people. People just cry unnecessary for everything - UCC to everything - if any special benefits being given to Hindus than it's very eligible for crying but even purpose to apply to everyone including Hindus, but still people cry and say, anti Muslim
Example - two child policy -
Wouldn't this policy also get applied to Hindus? But being called anti Muslim policy,.... Even such policy followed by many countries including Muslims...
Congress and other opposition parties, they pleased Muslims from morning to evening and exploits to them for the vote politics. They don't do anything for them to improve their lives. Atleast nothing has done in past 75 years.
You or western media, called him anti Muslims - does it make any changes?
Again I will repeat - only matters is that are living of Muslims people improving during BJP government?
Ans is absolutely - yes. Is there any changes in fundamental rights in Indian constitution - ans is no. They get the equal rights.
Reason of modi winning elections are the works and developments. They don't need to pleased Muslims for vote politics and but unfortunately still they need to pleased their core Hindu organisations. Atal bihari vajpayee was much better leader and from the same party - but lost, because middle class family were frustrated.
Specially in Pakistan, there many misinformation about indian voters. The fact is that Mostly Indian voters do support Modi, but not because he does back by Hindus groups, but people believe that he is best available leader to lead india presently. We mostly believe that Modi will work towards our interest and work for developments. India will be more strong.
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Cryptonian
Registered Member
LoL civilised world, who cares about westerners banning him temporarily. Your favourite civilised people killed 1000 x more muslims than those died under Modi's rule. It's pathetic that you use their ruling as benchmark
.Now those westerners invite him into US Congress, Whitehouse , give him standing ovation.
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