As Taliban starts restricting men too, some regret not speaking up sooner

[LeGenD]

Next to no resistance to banning of education for women is evidence enough. Let's not forget, Afghans under Taliban have had bigger "protests" (In Badakhshan), against banning of cultivation of opium.

If armed men show up at your door and tell you to grow up a beard, stop sending your daughters to schools, and attend their lectures in a local Masjid, and you know that you cannot call any force to arrest these men, what will be your options?

Armed militias are brutal and are most successful in controlling population bases because they impose such restrictions that are impossible to get through. This is something that TTP also demonstrated in Swat and other regions when it was in power. It takes external force to liberate these people.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Next to no resistance to banning of education for women is evidence enough. Let's not forget, Afghans under Taliban have had bigger "protests" (In Badakhshan), against banning of cultivation of opium.

Taliban will kill anyone for resisting ... You cannot seriously believe non-Pashtuns support this fanatical regime.

 

[Asfandyar Bhittani]

If armed men show up at your door and tell you to grow up a beard, stop sending your daughters to schools, and attend their lectures in a local Masjid, and you know that you cannot call any force to arrest these men, what will be your options?

Armed militias are brutal and are most successful in controlling population bases because they impose such restrictions that are impossible to get through. This is something that TTP also demonstrated in Swat and other regions when it was in power.

Armed men showed up to your door in Badakshan, told you to stop Growing hashish, and you knew you couldn't call any force to arrest these men, why did you go on protest, even when it turned deadly. In Badakhshan, then in Nangarhar.

Why do you protest every week when they told you that you will no longer be paid pension for services rendered to the former regime? Are you not afraid then?

Why do you, as money exchangers, protest against armed men when they told you to have licenses.

Clearly, some causes mostly monetary ones are more dear to you than education for half the population.

So why could that be?

Public protests against the Taliban in Kabul, Herat and Jowzjan provinces | Afghan Witness

www.afghanwitness.org

 

[Asfandyar Bhittani]

Taliban will kill anyone for resisting ... You cannot seriously believe non-Pashtuns support this fanatical regime.

It's not about whether they support them or not. My point is that most afghans, don't feel as strongly about the topic of female education as they do about their pockets, for which they protest quite regularly.

Whether those be Opium farmers who clashed with Taliban in Badakhshan, Retirees whose pensions have been blocked, money exchangers who have told to get licenses and so on.

Only one protesting for female education is.....women. well, some women to be exact.

Public protests against the Taliban in Kabul, Herat and Jowzjan provinces | Afghan Witness

www.afghanwitness.org

 

[hussain0216]

Taliban is needed to keep afghans under control

 

[KingQamaR]

Taliban will kill anyone for resisting ... You cannot seriously believe non-Pashtuns support this fanatical regime.

International community plowed 21 years' worth of effort and money trying to reform that country and train a new generation to uphold it once they left, and it collapsed in less than 24 hours. You can't fix a country that doesn't want to be fixed. They don't want any sort of democratic , they don't want modern ways.

 

[RescueRanger]

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Well this was the predicted outcome.

 

[KingQamaR]

If armed men show up at your door and tell you to grow up a beard, stop sending your daughters to schools, and attend their lectures in a local Masjid, and you know that you cannot call any force to arrest these men, what will be your options?

Armed militias are brutal and are most successful in controlling population bases because they impose such restrictions that are impossible to get through. This is something that TTP also demonstrated in Swat and other regions when it was in power. It takes external force to liberate these people.

The west did not abandon them. The Afghanistan people did not have the will to fight for their country, either politically or militarily.

As Afghan, told me, you don't get Afghan loyalty, you rent the loyalty until a better deal comes up for them.

Of course there were exceptions to the rule, but they often played for both sides

 

[RescueRanger]

The west did not abandon them. The Afghanistan people did not have the will to fight for their country, either politically or militarily.

As Afghan, told me, you don't get Afghan loyalty, you rent the loyalty until a better deal comes up for them.

Of course there were exceptions to the rule, but they often played for both sides

Afghan Army was deeply corrupt had inflated figures and apart from the 333 commando unit the Afghan army by and large surrendered without so much as firing a single bullet.

Even the Police did a better job of offering some resistance to the encroaching Taliban during the evacuation.

This was all pre-warned in various SIGAR reports.

Like I said earlier, outcome was predicted.

 

[Persian Gulf]

International community plowed 21 years' worth of effort and money trying to reform that country and train a new generation to uphold it once they left, and it collapsed in less than 24 hours. You can't fix a country that doesn't want to be fixed. They don't want any sort of democratic , they don't want modern ways.

military occupation that commits gross crimes against the population is not a genuine attempt. the Afghan government that fled immediately deserves criticism for sure.

the solution is federalisation of Afghanistan, so Pashtuns can live as they wish and Tajiks/Hazaras and others can do the same. These groups do not have much in common.

 

[RescueRanger]

military occupation that commits gross crimes against the population is not a genuine attempt. the Afghan government that fled immediately deserves criticism for sure.

the solution is federalisation of Afghanistan, so Pashtuns can live as they wish and Tajiks/Hazaras and others can do the same. These groups do not have much in common.

Wont happen with the ragtag mullahs and warlords currently occupying Kabul. There was immense brain drain and human capital flight from Afghnaistan, whatever change comes in Afghanistan, it wont be holistic and it wont come from within.

Taliban have effectively either killed or forced the best and brightest of their country to flee to greener pastures.

 

[deep]

Complete sharia is only way... pakistan too emulate talibanis afterall it is created for Islam ..

 

[RescueRanger]

Complete sharia is only way... pakistan too emulate talibanis afterall it is created for Islam ..

There is nothing wrong with having a legal system based solely of Sharia, however its implementation and safeguards are what's difficult when left to mere mortals who are as always far from infallible.

 

[Persian Gulf]

It's not about whether they support them or not. My point is that most afghans, don't feel as strongly about the topic of female education as they do about their pockets, for which they protest quite regularly.

Whether those be Opium farmers who clashed with Taliban in Badakhshan, Retirees whose pensions have been blocked, money exchangers who have told to get licenses and so on.

Only one protesting for female education is.....women. well, some women to be exact.

Public protests against the Taliban in Kabul, Herat and Jowzjan provinces | Afghan Witness

www.afghanwitness.org

Women naturally don't protest much as they are confined to their homes and the biggest victims here. Men naturally don't care since the Islamic system favours them and mostly harms women, so they are not going to risk their lives for women rights, unfortunately.

 

[RescueRanger]

Women naturally don't protest much as they are confined to their homes and the biggest victims here. Men naturally don't care since the Islamic system favours them and mostly harms women, so they are not going to risk their lives for women rights, unfortunately.

This!