Attack on Army School bus on Quetta-Khuzdar corridor— 6 Children martyred 43 injured.

[RescueRanger]

Security on high alert as large scale AT operation is proposed.

 

[Starlord]

This man is detached from reality.

Okay if you say so, normally when people have no arguments they often say things like this, but I will give you the benefit of doubt that you know a thing or two.

 

[ARMalik]

Security on high alert as large scale AT operation is proposed.

But a lot of these so called operations have happened in the past and still ordinary citizens are being killed daily. There is no point in conducting these operations if the heads of the snakes sitting in India are still intact.

 

[RescueRanger]

But a lot of these so called operations have happened in the past and still ordinary citizens are being killed daily. There is no point in conducting these operations if the heads of the snakes sitting in India are still intact.

can't really say what is on the table or what the outcomes will be till they start. Lets learn to look at the glass half-full.

 

[Taimoor]

so according to ISPR, India is involved and they have irrefutable evidence, hmmm interesting, now that begs the question, After Pehalgham India provided zero evidence and yet the primitively attack Pakistan using Air strikes, what will Pakistan do ? kill few/several terrorists, round up their supporters or suspects, but what will this achieve ? India will send more money to these Baloch Terrorists and more people will do the exact same thing..

Relese the songs (which I believe they already have), kill some rag tags, show them as war trophy, till the next terror attack, rinse and repeat. Aren't people in Pakistan sick and tired of this repeated pattern? Been going on since 9/11. Terrorism give them justification of hold on Pakistan because terrorism is the ultimate justification. but they will never uproot the source of all evil, which we all know is inside India.

Our chutiya qoom will simply not understand. Bhonktay hi raho gey.... India, India, India?? Thokna nahai hai India ko?

 

[Panzerkiel]

A long list of 'missing persons' is about to get updated real soon!

 

[Starlord]

Relese the songs (which I believe they already have), kill some rag tags, show them as war trophy, till the next terror attack, rinse and repeat. Aren't people in Pakistan sick and tired of this repeated pattern? Been going on since 9/11. Terrorism give them justification of hold on Pakistan because terrorism is the ultimate justification. but they will never uproot the source of all evil, which we all know is inside India.

Our chutiya qoom will simply not understand. Bhonktay hi raho gey.... India, India, India?? Thokna nahai hai India ko?

You want to know why and what makes America a Great country and nation ? their people and their strong resolve, talk to any America from any walk of life, from White supremacist to red neck, from Gay to Trans, from Alpha Mard to Khadra (Chakka) they all will to this day show strong emotions towards every terrorist attack, including 9/11 and for that bhar mai gaye diversity, or Muslim sentiment etc and in Pakistan, BLA kill kids and civilians even before BLA release their statement try to justify attack we have PDFians giving all sorts of excuses on their behalf, and half cooked condemnations, jee bura hua, govt should take action, hum zinda qoum hai, shaheed hai sab, hum nai choren ga wagera wagera, 2-3 din sab bhool jate hai until next attack happen and cycle repeat.

 

[Fatman17]

Pakistan has to provide solid proof of involvement of indian intelligence behind this incident. We are aware of their involvement in supporting the militants BLA etc.

 

[Taimoor]

You want to know why and what makes America a Great country and nation ? their people and their strong resolve, talk to any America from any walk of life, from White supremacist to red neck, from Gay to Trans, from Alpha Mard to Khadra (Chakka) they all will to this day show strong emotions towards every terrorist attack, including 9/11 and for that bhar mai gaye diversity, or Muslim sentiment etc and in Pakistan, BLA kill kids and civilians even before BLA release their statement try to justify attack we have PDFians giving all sorts of excuses on their behalf, and half cooked condemnations, jee bura hua, govt should take action, hum zinda qoum hai, shaheed hai sab, hum nai choren ga wagera wagera, 2-3 din sab bhool jate hai until next attack happen and cycle repeat.

No, thats not the problem. The head of snake is outside the borders of Pakistan, inside India. If that head is not crushed, keep on making songs, keep on killing the rag tags, and lose our own jawans. This shithosery has been going on since 9/11. Almost as if its all deliberate, by design, uprooting terrorism in its entirety was never the goal. Which I have already explained why.

Every nation worth its salt have internal fault lines. America got many. UK got IRA, Scottish separatists. Its just other nations do not allow a free pass to outside nations, specially their mortal enemies to fish in troubling waters, without paying the consequences. All we do, is keep making songs, and making powerpoint presentations, kill some rag tags, till they pay someone else to do the job. In this day and age, no violent separatist movement can survive without outside help. How you deal with it? you lit fire among your mortal enemy fault lines, make them pay through their noses for their interference in your affairs.

 

[Goenitz]

Identify the scumbag who was the suicide bomber in this attack and then provide best of the hospitality to his family. let them spend some time with the LEAs for next few months at least

@RescueRanger
You posted a detailed post about short- and long-term strategies to tackle Balochistan. We must follow a stable policy/stance while remaining inside our moral bounds.
Why stability:

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The problem is external and not internal. It is not Balochi, Afghans, etc. With 250 mil Pakistanis + 80 mil Afghans, etc there are thousands, if not 100 thousands Mir Jaffars and Sadiqs to sell their soul for $. The main ingredients are weapon (capacity) and $ (will).

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See Chinese at first hanged their own locals to cease opium consumption.

 

[RescueRanger]

@RescueRanger
You posted a detailed post about short- and long-term strategies to tackle Balochistan. We must follow a stable policy/stance while remaining inside our moral bounds.
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The problem is external and not internal. It is not Balochi, Afghans, etc. With 250 mil Pakistanis + 80 mil Afghans, etc there are thousands, if not 100 thousands Mir Jaffars and Sadiqs to sell their soul for $. The main ingredients are weapon (capacity) and $ (will).

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I fully agree with you, in fact if you listen to DGISPRS very first press conference this is what he was alluding to when he said Internalise external problems and externalise internal problems.

 

[Huzaifa]

Security on high alert as large scale AT operation is proposed.

Till when the next massacre?

 

[RescueRanger]

Pakistan has to provide solid proof of involvement of indian intelligence behind this incident. We are aware of their involvement in supporting the militants BLA etc.

We need to start going after the financial backers- finance always leads a paper trail.

Conduct raids using ATA and PECA on any person(s) associated with such networks- detain them and question them, put the pressure on them to spill the beans like we have done before - get in on record by conducting video interviews.

Seize laptops, phones, computers and conduct a co.pletw digital download of the devices (we have this kit) and that will provide a full list of each SMS, conversation, call, email headers, IP addresses etc..

Be proactive about post incident investigations, conduct a cell site data dump and collect IMEIs of all devices connected to the cell sites at the time of incident - speculativly conduct a CDR trawl on numbers within the cell site at the time of the incident, this helps identify further potential leads.

Conduct a CDR trawl of calls to certain numbers across the networks - start linking associates - if we can do this we can create irrefutable evidence of foreign involvement inside Pakistan.

Nurture grass roots HUMINT and create fusion centres like we have done in Punjab to filter intelligence from multiple sources, train senior police officers to handle CHIS(Covert Human Intelligence Sources /Informants).

Rate the intelligence based on provenance. Adopt the 5x5x5 or 3x5x2 intelligence rating matrix to filter intelligence in a methodical and rapid manner.

Strict enforcement on unregistered sims, any sim card not being associated with a registered person should be shut down - geo fence certain simcards so if a sim card is registered in Punjab and is operating in Zhob for extended period of time - suspend it temporarily forcing g the user to come into franchise to reactivate it.

As criminologist and father forensics investigation Dr. Edmund Locard said "Every contact leaves a trace.".

By following a methodological forensic approach to investigation we can provide evidence that will be irrefutable and will stand up to international scrutiny.

 

[RescueRanger]

Till when the next massacre?

Do you think our boys are sitting on their hands?

 

[Goenitz]

I fully agree with you, in fact if you listen to DGISPRS very first press conference this is what he was alluding to when he said Internalise external problems and externalise internal problems.

Yes. We should stop maligning/blaming our people (kids) that they are bad. Yes, we must punish them for any offence as a crime is a crime. If someone kills another by accident or on purpose, a life is lost. So, he should be punished for taking a life but we should stop thinking that only we/our kids are bad

The most important thing was the first video. Our decision should go through our values first. It creates stability as we become predictable. Whether you like Mirza Shazad Akbar or not, he left his family in Pakistan (first) as he believed that in enmity/hostility, families are not prosecuted.
Therefore, people know what the boundaries are, and even if TTP/BLA crosses that boundary, these are frowned upon. Such as they blame Pak army for attacking civilian homes, resulting in children and women deaths so TTP/BLA has the right to do so. Yes, there would be collateral damage, but then the Army/Govt should be at the forefront for apologies and compensation.

Then comes stability. Now, the Army must decide whether it likes free speech or not, a political system or not, a civilian judiciary or not, etc. In China, there is limited free speech, so people know their limits and have secure and contented lives.
In Pakistan, if we are not aware of how far we can criticise the government/Army, people will be afraid, under stress and panic. This instability prohibits idea generation, accountability and positive criticism (very important).

Similarly, if laws/courts are unpredictable, no one will invest in Pak. Like the Riqodik case, the court suddenly and unilaterally annulled the contract, resulting in huge financial losses in arbitration.

Stability also dictates DOs/DONTs, which means we can tell what is unlawful, who is an enemy, what is right etc. Now, one group can chant anything against the army and one can't and many other examples which create divisions and uncertainty, which lead to chaos.