Balochistan Terrorism Watch

[PakAl]

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Everytime our troops are martyred, we hear the news on hideouts being targets, or target operations started? In a few weeks more attacks will take place and repeat mode will start.

 

[Waz]

Terrible loss again. When are the conveys going to covered by armed drones and attack choppers?

 

[Great Mal]

I'm curious that last week PA neutralised some 50 scumbags and the OP didn't bat an eye lid yet he's always first to open a thread on any Pakistani casualties using any source that first reports any incident.
Now the same source is saying that Two soldiers were Martyred .

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you caught me mr genius i am a RAW Agent

 

[PakAl]

The BLA doesn't pay for intelligence bro. It has a large HUMINT network of locals that willingly give it out of support to the group.

If anything Pakistan is the one paying for it

They have sleeper cells who identify the target, inform the militants on the location, and then carry out the operation. I think it's unfair how people point fingers at all balochis, for example are the people of Punjab and Sindh responsible for all the corruption of the elite, the money launderers, billions worth of corruption. All this money belongs to the poor and needy but these people steal it and most of them or their connections sit in the parliament, and rule Pakistan. Why people of Sindh and Punjab are not stopping them? Instead they vote for them and attend their jalsas. My point brothers its not that simple.

 

[PakistaniDefender]

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This is criminal murder and whoever is in charge of such mishaps happening for the past 5 years needs to be hanged

I don't care how much of a loyalist boot licker you are sending soldiers to their demise without a fighting chance inside Toyota tin cans is murder.

Need a misadventure inside in Kashmir like that of Pulwama to avenge it

 

[Master Chief]

Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji-oun.

Protect our soldiers properly. Instead of us mocking Americans for "fleeing" from Kabul, we should have spent this last decade learning from their mistakes so that we are better prepared for similar battles.

 

[Great Mal]

Sad news, it's heartbreaking but this has been happening for decades. Balochistan is a large area, sometimes army travels to 500km in no man land, this is where the militants are waiting to target army, the militants can reach their destination through 1000 different ways, the same way militants enter from Afghanistan in to Pakistan via 1000s of different ways. Militants also live in the mountains, hunt for food etc, and upon intelligence they employ hit and run attacks on the armed forces.

Even superpower like the USA will struggle to deal with this issue, it takes alot of resources to tackle this problem, for example millions of troops, aircover 24 7, aircover with military convey, militants hideouts must be located and destroyed, all their connections, sleepercells destroyed, handlers dealt with.

Pakistan only option is to give full protection to the troop conveys, armoured vehicles must be able to protect troops until they regroup and fight off attackers, a few ariel drones to give them intel on the attackers before the attack. There is no other solution, after 20 years we will be at the same place.

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Baloch terrorists aren’t perched up on such high mountains at best they occupy the low hills and ambush the Toyota tin cans.

If you look at the videos that terrorists post from their side of the ambushes, it’s always hardly ten people perched on a small hill which overlooks a small road. They lay ambush since the army has zero iq individuals, and it seems like no threat assessment terrorists repeat this same age-old tactic, which can be mitigated via introduction of MRAPs or at least vehicles which protect them from small arms fire.

 

[Windjammer]

Two different places

One the OP mentioned is in Balochistan. Your post is about Bajaur

Anyways there is little to discuss here. BLA right now has upper hand against Pakistani military. Pakistani casualties are too high and apparently PA is losing the war on ground against BLA charsis. And all this is happening due to indifference and lack of ingenuinity of PA leadership. They simply have no idea what to do in Balochistan against BLA

PA needs to wake up. Go on offensive. Rebuild its intelligence structure in Balochistan. Or else this would keep happening. Current strategy is failing. Nobody can cover that

We are not Indians. We can't and shouldn't defend open and clear failures

Yes two different places hence I posted two different Tweets. The second one relates to Balochistan, where PA have eliminated around 20 miscreants according to latest reports.

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[ACE OF HEARTS]

There are locals / foreigners on the mountain tops, watching the convoy routes. There are not many roads / infrastructure, so the route is quite predictable. And since the land is sparsely populated, you can see a moving car, from very very far away.

The only way to move safely is in heavily armoured vehicles.

 

[White Privilege]

could be a retaliation of the other ongoing ops. However, has a convoy ever escaped such an ambush, what are the protocols when forces encounter such kill zones?? Travelling through the immense landscape is necessary but does provide rich targets.
@Panzerkiel

 

[Windjammer]

you caught me mr genius i am a RAW Agent

One just needs to look at your last dozen threads, all about Pakistani military casualties, even if there's one you open a thread on it, the sources you often use also do report on Tangos and other militants casualties but somehow you miss out on that .

 

[Goenitz]

It's more complicated than that. Pakistan has all the landlords on its side, these people have big connections, can buy intelligence. Someone out in this world is giving intelligence to the rebels, if our rulers can launder billions monthly to foreign nations, do people believe they don't keep the rebels alive to keep the army occupied, the rebels number around 1000 maximum, they keep deploying hit and run tactics and run off to the mountains, if rebels are killed, more are recruited. So out of 10m population, 1000 rebels is not a big thing, especially when the population has genuine grievances, they are poor despite supplying gas to all over Pakistan, their landlords are brutal and supported by Pakistan federal government, lack of reforms, education, this all contributes to the rebellion. A poor person, family is unwell, no future, the rebels pay a few lakhs a month to recruit him, upon death extra money is given to family, the rebels make money through black economy.

How can Pakistan tackle this? This is why we struggled for 30 years and most likely next 30 or even 50 years will be the same.

It is not more complicated but as simple as you said. We cannot transport our troops by air etc. Even if we do all the time, eventually we will lose like the US in Afghanistan.
In addition, local intelligence is always crucial in a hostile environment. Surely, we lack that too in the form of public, local levi and police etc.
Therefore, measures like drone patrols or sweeping before movement or MARP may reduce fatality, but troops are always on luck to safely reach their destination.

Now, if 1000 rebels can do that, what if there were 2000 or 5 times more rebel recruits? is that plausible given our economic, political and security situation? Then, such incidents would grow linearly or exponentially? The generals, sardars and bureaucrats would run to the west, leaving the mess behind for poor Punjabis etc to bear.

 

[onlinpunit]

Balochistan insurgency is very very similar to our Naxal Problems.
You can't end it using central authority. Strengthen and Involve the local LEAs.

 

[Goenitz]

Balochistan insurgency is very very similar to our Naxal Problems.
You can't end it using central authority. Strengthen and Involve the local LEAs.

Come on. Those poor Naxals may be as politically motivated or more, but they are poorly armed. The day they have M4s, IEDs, night scopes, snipers, etc, then you can equal them.
Naxals have no free cross-border movement like BLA or TTP.

 

[Areesh]

Yes two different places hence I posted two different Tweets. The second one relates to Balochistan, where PA have eliminated around 20 miscreants according to latest reports.

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I hope the news of 11 rats elimination is true

But still the point is PA needs to change its tactics and overall strategy in Balochistan. Current strategy doesn't seem to be working and needs an overhaul or something