Balochistan Terrorism Watch

[I*R*A]

Still in 25 years there is no separatist movement in Indian Punjab. Ask how ?

Operation blue star and lynching of Sikhs. I think indian Punjab has a severe drug problem.

Maybe they are not pro terrorists but don't have an option

Option is to migrate, get schooling and find jobs in other areas of Pakistan. There is always an option unless you are just too hooked to azadi propaganda.

One question. Recently when BLA attacked multiple positions throughout Baluchistan with 400-1000 persons. Hopping that common balochis will join when they see the attack, why didn't they ?

And suppose if they did join, what was going to happen? I think they knew the answer to that. I am not saying they are all azadi propaganda addicts, but they do provide support and intel to bla types, without local support there won't be women available for suicide bombings and execution of these terrorist attacks won't be that easy.

 

[hussain0216]

As a nation, we and our institutions should ask the question "Why ? What we did wrong ? ". The very first step in resolving any problem is to realize there is a problem and then wholeheartedly seek solution to it. But we won't find any solution if we don't even realize why the problem exists.



See. This mindset is part of the problem. Some terrorists attacks and you are done with 44% of your country landmass and 7% of your population.

The level of separatist movement that India had in Punjab, Baluchistan isn't even close to that. Still in 25 years there is no separatist movement in Indian Punjab. Ask how ? And maybe we learn some lessons from their example. Try winning your people , don't abandon them because you think they are pro-terrorists. Maybe they are not pro terrorists but don't have an option. Let's say if tomorrow a citizen from Baluchistan report BLA operative to our security agencies. Can our security agencies ensure he and his family is safe in their house and locality ?? No. Why ? Because we can't. So it's our inability that the common balochi isn't helping us out against these terrorist.




The good thing about KP police is that they are not afraid of the fight. They fought in swat during Taliban insurgency. They are fighting against TTP in ex-FATA and Waziristan etc. I would even go ahead and say that after Pakistan military, the largest number of sacrifices made against terrorism is by KPK police.

I disagree, they are enemies

We don't want peace with these enemies and we don't want to be friends with them

How will these enemies help Pakistan,, they have blood on their hands and our singular objective should be war and conflict and to let them and their people suffer

 

[RealNapster]

Operation blue star and lynching of Sikhs. I think indian Punjab has a severe drug problem.

Which isnt separatist movement. Proving my point.

Option is to migrate, get schooling and find jobs in other areas of Pakistan. There is always an option unless you are just too hooked to azadi propaganda.

That is a long process which will take time. A common balochi isnt educated enough to find a job in peshawar or Lahore. Can we give them this much time, support, education and patience? ??? Or well we keep calling them all terrorists for reat of their lives ?

And also, usually migrating isnt a choice. Why should they leave their homes and towns ? Why is this the only solution to militancy ? Why should we make every person an IDP in Pakistan ?

And suppose if they did join, what was going to happen? I think they knew the answer to that. I am not saying they are all azadi propaganda addicts, but they do provide support and intel to bla types, without local support there won't be women available for suicide bombings and execution of these terrorist attacks won't be that easy.

They do provide support or keep quite because they don't have an option. Why is everyone on pdf Hellbound on thinking every person in KPK and Baluchistan is either a terrorist or a terrorist supporter ?

I disagree, they are enemies

We don't want peace with these enemies and we don't want to be friends with them

How will these enemies help Pakistan,, they have blood on their hands and our singular objective should be war and conflict and to let them and their people suffer

Well. I was taking about common balochi. If you think that every common balochi is a terrorist, terrorist supporter or sympathizer, then you are part of the problem. You can all disagree.

 

[ghazi52]

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[ghazi52]

The hatred for the BLA present in the hearts of Balochistan's citizens has begun to come out into the open

In the area of District Kech, local citizens have come out openly against the BLA

Citizens expressed their anger by setting fire to the flag of the banned organization BLA

The banned organization Balochistan and local citizens can never be loyal. Local citizens

Due to this organization, peace and business are affected. Citizens

If this organization were the savior of us Baloch, it would never have rained shells down on us Baloch or local individuals. Citizen

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[LHA4210]

Four terrorists killed in Gwadar operation

• Two security personnel martyred during two-hour gun battle • Separate landmine blast in Duki injures two security men

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4 T's killed and 2 security personnel martyred in Pasni, Gwadar operation.

2 personnel from private security company seriously injured in IED blast in Duki.

 

[I*R*A]

And also, usually migrating isnt a choice. Why should they leave their homes and towns ? Why is this the only solution to militancy ? Why should we make every person an IDP in Pakistan ?

I am talking about the young family members, almost every family in Pakistan in small towns have their sons and daughters studying or working away from home in other cities / provinces.

Options are always there, it is just that some people do not just wish to change.

By the way these Baloch youth studied in Pakistanis universities and still ended up fighting and getting killed for BLA.

My friend State's do not have emotions or patience, either you are loyal to the state or you are a traitor, no ifs no buts.

 

[RealNapster]

I am talking about the young family members, almost every family in Pakistan in small towns have their sons and daughters studying or working away from home in other cities / provinces.

Options are always there, it is just that some people do not just wish to change.

By the way these Baloch youth studied in Pakistanis universities and still ended up fighting and getting killed for BLA.

My friend State's do not have emotions or patience, either you are loyal to the state or you are a traitor, no ifs no buts.

I don't wonder why. Because the level of hatred for common balochi here on pdf, if there is even 10% of that in our universities then obviously the young baloch minds will be diverted to BLA ideology.

 

[Panzerkiel]

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[I*R*A]

I don't wonder why. Because the level of hatred for common balochi here on pdf, if there is even 10% of that in our universities then obviously the young baloch minds will be diverted to BLA ideology.

It is not hatred for the people, what you see on the online forum is frustration and anger. In real world, most of the Pakistanis in their common life, do not care much about ethnicity, race or place.

I have shared accommodations in Karachi with a Bugti (before Akbar Bugti's death), intelligent guy, good in studies. I have been to Dear Bugti and based on my whatever little experience and exposure, I asked him if he will be able to break the cycle and bring a change. He firmly said that it won't be possible for him because his uncles, cousins and relatives all died in infighting between the tribes.

 

[Tomcats]

By the way these Baloch youth studied in Pakistanis universities and still ended up fighting and getting killed for BLA.

I believe the reason why educated folk join the movement is because in its modern form, it is an anti-tribal/sardar movement which resonates with the educated folk. The state currently relies on the sardar system which itself is backwards and causing problems, that is the conundrum the state finds itself in. It thinks that to combat the insurgency it must maintain the sardar system to enable pro-state militias/support, conversely the sardars are generating societal frictions due to the inequality and lack of development there which is feeding the insurgency.

 

[Samurai]

I believe the reason why educated folk join the movement is because in its modern form, it is an anti-tribal/sardar movement which resonates with the educated folk. The state currently relies on the sardar system which itself is backwards and causing problems, that is the conundrum the state finds itself in. It thinks that to combat the insurgency it must maintain the sardar system to enable pro-state militias/support, conversely the sardars are generating societal frictions due to the inequality and lack of development there which is feeding the insurgency.

Well said.... What were the odds of this conflict not spiraling out of control today if Pakistani establishment had abolished feudalism and tribalism at the start of independence, just like what Nehru did in India?

When we talk about the subject of Pakistan independence movement, some critics point out that Muslim League itself was composed of all the zameendar's and nawab's who had feared that after independence from British, they would lose all that status and wealth and that's why they joined the League in hopes of continuing that status quo with an independent Pakistan. Yet these feudal and sardar lot are also the main reason why the local masses are uneducated and working as a slave class in a pyramid scheme, where the establishment is at the top and it gives favors, land, money and status to these feudal lords in exchange for their obedience and the control of the their subjects. IMO this system/status quo will not survive long and will collapse one day if more and more people get educated and get aware of their fundamental rights and also will slowly realize who the real traitors have been.

 

[ghazi52]

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WASHUK, BALOCHISTAN: SECURITY FORCES' OPERATION,
TWO TERRORISTS KILLED

Based on intelligence provided by the Markhor, security forces ambushed and encircled 3 to 4 terrorists riding two motorcycles on a road in Washuk, Balochistan.
When the forces advanced as part of their tactical strategy, the terrorists opened fire.

The troops, acting swiftly and in a coordinated manner, killed two terrorists while injuring two others.An SMG, ammunition, a BLA flag, and mobile phones were recovered from the scene.The area has been cordoned off, and a clearance operation is underway.

 

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[I*R*A]

why educated folk join the movement is because in its modern form, it is an anti-tribal/sardar movement which resonates with the educated folk.

If they had put this much effort against the tribal and sardar system, they would have forced the state to get rid of it. Instead they chose to pick arms against the state at the behest of tribal sardar. It is not an anti tribal / sardar movement. It is purely a refusal to open up to modern education and leave the old ways which make them feel like manly.