RescueRanger
Meme Lord
Please don't share their brainfarts on PDF. I almost choked with laughter reading this.
Balochistan Terrorism Watch
- Thread starter ghazi52
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M. Sarmad
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
It's not about one Mahrang.... People like her and Mama Qadeer are controversial ... nobody is turning them into saints.... But that's beside the point.... We can disagree with them and still hold that they are entitled to a fair trial... right up until the moment they pick up a gun against the state.... At that point a militant becomes a legitimate target.... Before it, they are citizens...
And notice what she was actually convicted of.... Not being a BLA operative.... Not being an Indian agent.... Neither was proven in court.... She was convicted for incitement at a rally that turned violent and cost an FC man his life.... Now ask yourself honestly: a state whose agencies even record the private moments of judges couldn't produce a shred of evidence tying her to terrorism? If it existed, they'd have used it.... It didn't, so they convicted her on incitement in a trial that local activists and Amnesty alike called a sham... and in doing so, handed the movement a hero it couldn't have manufactured on its own...
Or maybe because the real problem is deeper than any one case?. It's the colonial mindset of an establishment that places itself above the law.... and that is not confined to Balochistan, or to "tribal people"..... We watched it play out from Islamabad to Lahore to Karachi after 2021... the constitution treated as "raddi kaghaz", elections engineered openly, defendants convicted at multiple locations simultaneously on charges obviously farcical, press conferences performed under duress, tens of thousans arbitrary detentions across the country and a government handed to a party that had won only 17 seats...
The content of the charges was never the point.... The message was: we are above the law, we own the courts, we own the Election Commission, we own the country, we can do whatever we want, however we want and the lowly civilians can do nothing about it....
That is one pattern with two outlets.... Educated people in the cities take to social media and forums to vent their dissent.... Tribal people pick up guns... The grievance is the same, only the tools differ ... a state that refuses to let its citizens govern themselves and denies them their basic rights...
So until that underlying problem is addressed, stability in Pakistan stays a fantasy.... The military establishment keeps firefighting a blaze it lit itself, and then acts baffled that the house won't stop burning.....
hussain0216
Elite Member
Finding a smoking gun isn't always possible
And great steps are taken to conceal the gun
It's two sides of the same coin She and her organisation provided the propaganda and protests and BLA provided the violence
It's no different to TTP and PTM
Do you think Russia, or India or Israel or even the U.S or Europe would wait around for a smoking gun
If they felt a enemy was provided propaganda they would outright take them out
This is the world we are living in and our inability to be ruthless against the enemies of Pakistan has resulted in chaos and we cannot continue like this
For once I think these arrests and incarcerations, the throwing out of Afghans etc is all adding up and you will gradually see a much more forceful Pakistani responsibility
Their is poverty and problems across the world, in few places are they as barbaric as in some areas in Pakistan, and again you can't deal with this by pretending we are sitting in a village councillor meeting in Switzerland talking about local bin collection
It's time to round up and get rid of people before the chaos and war the world is building towards erupts and Pakistan isn't ready because we are stuck with all these animals to deal with
Goenitz
Elite Member
For that, they have to be considered human. If they are considered jahil, sub-human, a burden on earth, etc, one can consider doing unimaginable things to them. It is nothing but neo-colonialism where native tribes were assumed to be primitive and less human. I think Balochis are even less than bloody civilians.
You know very well about the sub-castes of shudarah that even they discriminate.
Armed fighters attacked a convoy carrying Pakistani military personnel in Balochistan’s Mastung district on Thursday, triggering clashes and forcing the closure of the main Quetta-Karachi highway, local sources said.
The convoy was targeted near Guro in the Khadkucha area, the sources said, adding that it included 10 buses carrying personnel travelling on leave, along with armoured and other vehicles.
Four buses and several other vehicles were directly targeted, while other buses were also damaged, according to the sources.
Local reports said a large number of personnel had been killed, with some accounts putting the toll at more than 50. The figure could not be independently verified, and there was no immediate confirmation from Pakistani authorities.
Reinforcements sent to the area were also attacked near the Madina Hotel on the highway, where two vehicles were reportedly targeted.
Clashes were continuing at the time of reporting, while additional movement of Pakistani forces and the arrival of gunship helicopters were reported in the area.
Authorities declared an emergency at the Nawab Ghous Bakhsh Raisani Memorial Hospital in Mastung and tightened security around the facility.
The convoy was targeted near Guro in the Khadkucha area, the sources said, adding that it included 10 buses carrying personnel travelling on leave, along with armoured and other vehicles.
Four buses and several other vehicles were directly targeted, while other buses were also damaged, according to the sources.
Local reports said a large number of personnel had been killed, with some accounts putting the toll at more than 50. The figure could not be independently verified, and there was no immediate confirmation from Pakistani authorities.
Reinforcements sent to the area were also attacked near the Madina Hotel on the highway, where two vehicles were reportedly targeted.
Clashes were continuing at the time of reporting, while additional movement of Pakistani forces and the arrival of gunship helicopters were reported in the area.
Authorities declared an emergency at the Nawab Ghous Bakhsh Raisani Memorial Hospital in Mastung and tightened security around the facility.
hussain0216
Elite Member
It's about behaviour,
Once you kill teachers and labourers and innocent travellers or behead police It's very difficult for anyone to treat you with any respect
It's no different to the Israelis, once you cross a red line of barbarity it's impossible to then go back and make peace
Their is only war with one side winning and the other being wiped out
And we need to ensure that Pakistan is the winning side
So that inevitably means afghans and BLA types need to get it, it's just the way we are doing it is reactive when we need to be far far more aggressive
hasssanali8998
Elite Member
hussain0216
Elite Member
Until you stop burying your heads in the sand and stop treating these areas like some sort of gentile English village where the locals are a bit upset, you will get nothing but chaos and violence
Until you realise this is a WAR
When Pakistan must act to use it's military to start WIPING OUT TARGETS and punishing it's enemy nothing will happen
Terrorists have attacked you, start your response by wiping out a bunch of major targets in Afghanistan and decimating BLA areas of Afghanistan
If they kill 10,, why aren't you killing 1000 of them?
hasssanali8998
Elite Member
why fight when u can just say everything is alright and loot the country for as long as possible
El Sidd
Elite Member
So you think these fighters are in hundreds of thousands?
hussain0216
Elite Member
If you act like a *********, you will be treated like a ***********.
Start causing damage to your enemies, if the TTP and BLA are causing terrorism then your response should be a overwhelming brutal response in their villages and towns where they lose some serious numbers and infrastructure
Your ability as a state and major military power, gives you a multi fold greater ability to cause absolute CARNAGE
And CARNAGE is what you should be aiming for in Afghanistan but not limited to Afghanistan, but also in your tribal area and badlands
hasssanali8998
Elite Member
nope but definitely not just 1500 , even bugti said it was 8000 i expect 10 to 12 ish k
ahmedtarar
Registered Member
Just an experiment, if you go by the official number published numbers of the FAH casualties since last year, it would easily run up to couple thousand. So either the fighter strength is very high or the official casualty numbers are bogus. I for sure know the truth, you can pick whatever you want.
