Bangladesh Air Force

PAF's total contract price for the purchase of 20 J-10CE from China is 12.87 billion CNY (this price includes 20x J-10CE, 240x PL-15E, 10x WS-10B backup engines, all related services and personnel training).
This price is certainly less than 2 billion dollars when converted.
So, theoretically, BAF could buy a set exactly as contracted by PAF.

But. PAF itself already had enough J-10CE support systems before this contract. It includes a ground radar reconnaissance system, an air defense/warning system, satellite intelligence support, a data chain, a digital command center, and so on. So, when the J-10CE arrives at the PAF, it is ready to begin operational readiness duty straight away.

From what has been made public so far, the BAF does not have a complete support system. They are much more expensive than fighter jets ......

I'm not fully aware of the current configuration of the BAF's air combat support system to know exactly what else needs to be added. Therefore, I am unable to develop a procurement list.

Thanks for the logical points.

Regarding support systems, I think it is a mix of yes and not having them as far as BAF is concerned. So in a word, no they do not have all the necessary support systems.

If we look some years back, 4 Myanmar aircraft crossed into Bangladeshi airspace. We can track them via our AESA ground-based radars, but we cannot intercept them despite having a mix MiG-29s and F-7s based in Cox's Bazar. And what is scary is that the Burmese knew this.


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What is more pressing is that there is a lack of any unified doctrine in our military. Without a sound doctrine, one would question the viability of such procurements anytime soon.

Bangladesh is situated in a highly unstable region which is not set to improve anytime soon. It is imperative that Bangladesh formulates a military doctrine to mitigate the threats.
 
Thanks for the logical points.

Regarding support systems, I think it is a mix of yes and not having them as far as BAF is concerned. So in a word, no they do not have all the necessary support systems.

If we look some years back, 4 Myanmar aircraft crossed into Bangladeshi airspace. We can track them via our AESA ground-based radars, but we cannot intercept them despite having a mix MiG-29s and F-7s based in Cox's Bazar. And what is scary is that the Burmese knew this.


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What is more pressing is that there is a lack of any unified doctrine in our military. Without a sound doctrine, one would question the viability of such procurements anytime soon.

Bangladesh is situated in a highly unstable region which is not set to improve anytime soon. It is imperative that Bangladesh formulates a military doctrine to mitigate the threats.

Based on the realities of Bangladesh, I would recommend that BAF adopt a sharpshooter air combat system configuration. That is, instead of pursuing air superiority over a wide area, it will seek absolute leadership in small-scale air combat. If all of them are purchased from China, its configuration is as follows:

1, 4-8x J-35.
2, 8-20x J-10CE.
3, 2-4x KJ-500AE. (China has an export version of the AWACS similar to the KJ-500A, but no export code has been announced, so it is temporarily replaced by the KJ-500AE.)
4, DTS-03 Tactical data chain and supporting command system.
5、Corresponding weapons and ammunition and related training services.
6, F-6/7 and other old aircraft UAV conversion kit.
7, Leasing Chinese civil satellite services. (China now has a very advanced civil satellite system)

In the Chinese Air Force establishment, a fighter squadron usually consists of eight fighters of the same type. Generally, we take 4 fighters of the same type as the minimum establishment.BAF can consider the number of 4/8/12/16/20+2 as the purchase base. Of these, the additional 2 are reserve/training fighters.

With this architecture, a single sortie air tactical formation is:
1x KJ-500AE + 2x J-35 + 4x J-10CE
For an offensive mission, this could be accompanied by an assault/suicide/decoy cluster of several F6/7-UAVs.
This kind of air tactical formation is perfectly suited to ensure absolute air superiority in South and Southeast Asia.

With this configuration, the total price tag must be over 2 billion dollars. However, we generally believe that China should provide installment payment services if BAF is determined to procure on this model. Bangladesh could also pay for it in other ways. For example: terminal operating rights, mineral resource extraction rights, cargo substitution, etc.
 
7, Leasing Chinese civil satellite services. (China now has a very advanced civil satellite system)
Just asking, is there any chance of china giving us link/access to its military grade navigation and imaging satellites?
 
Just asking, is there any chance of china giving us link/access to its military grade navigation and imaging satellites?
The military authorization code for China's Beidou satellite navigation system is currently available to only three countries. Pakistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia.
Bangladesh, if interested, can approach the Chinese authorities for negotiations. Theoretically, it could provide military services to Bangladesh.
However, the civilian system of Beidou satellite navigation system is also very accurate. It is open to the world.

As for China's other military satellite systems, they are currently not open to other countries.

China's civilian satellite systems are very well developed. Communication satellites, optical satellites, remote sensing satellites and so on. It is also very easy to obtain these services. Their practical utilization is far more effective than the military satellite systems of many countries.

China also provides satellite customization services. That is to say, the customer makes the request and we are responsible for manufacturing and launching the satellite. After the satellite has successfully entered orbit, it is handed over to the customer for its own management and maintenance. The specific functions of the satellite are completely customized according to the customer's needs. ------ The cost of this approach is higher.
 
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The military authorization code for China's Beidou satellite navigation system is currently available to only three countries. Pakistan, Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Saudi Arabia uses this? Surprising....

China also provides satellite customization services. That is to say, the customer makes the request and we are responsible for manufacturing and launching the satellite. After the satellite has successfully entered orbit, it is handed over to the customer for its own management and maintenance. The specific functions of the satellite are completely customized according to the customer's needs. ------ The cost of this approach is higher.

That would be most ideal in my opinion. But, gotta start from somewhere.
 
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According to this, Bangladesh defence budget is $3.6 billion:


Which is less than Azerbaijan’s $5 billion defence budget:


So why is it good for Azerbaijan and not Bangladesh?
 
According to this, Bangladesh defence budget is $3.6 billion:


Which is less than Azerbaijan’s $5 billion defence budget:


So why is it good for Azerbaijan and not Bangladesh?

No idea, really.

A section of Bangladeshis on the Internet hate the JF-17 for some reason. Not sure if it is due to technical specifications (which look good on paper) or because it has Pakistani origins.
 
Saudi Arabia uses this? Surprising....
Saudi Arabia is a big customer for China's military trade. Many of the weapons China sells to Saudi Arabia require the high-precision positioning services of Beidou satellites. These include the ballistic missiles that China sells to Saudi Arabia.

That would be most ideal in my opinion. But, gotta start from somewhere.
The cost of operating a complete military satellite system on your own is very high.
Bangladesh can customize some communication satellites for its own operation when its economy is better. As for its own military satellite system, forget it.

A section of Bangladeshis on the Internet hate the JF-17 for some reason. Not sure if it is due to technical specifications (which look good on paper) or because it has Pakistani origins.
For BAF, the JF-17B3 is a very good choice.
However, it has a trade off problem.
The JF-17B3 deal involves three countries. Pakistan, China, and Russia (engines).

Based on the status quo, it is unlikely that Pakistan and Russia will agree to BAF providing installment/loan services in the purchase of JF-17B3. This means that Bangladesh will have to pay for the deal in full. For the present Bangladeshi government, it is obvious that there is no such amount of money.
 
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amra khan clownery still goes on a decade later
 
He's got some serious psychological issues.
The unearned arrogance is quite cringe.
Dude, you are the citizen of a country which flies 3rd generation junkers. You're in no position to belittle others.

Agree. Definitely a mental case. He is living in la la land since forever.
 
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Pretty sure Jeff Blk 3s would be a huge upgrade for BAF, 4+ Gen fighter with AESA, HMD, PL 10 HOBS missile, SD10 BVR missile plus the Pakistani made weapons like REK, AZB LR etc.

Pakistan also is indeginizing JF 17 even more with future JF 17 Alpha with indeginous AESA radar and avionics suite and homegrown weapons integrated.

BAF can get Jeffs and push for TOT and local manufacturing of parts. It would be a big boost for BD local defence manufacturing.

On a side note, I saw this guy's page, he seems quite against Pakistan in general and spews shit, what's his deal?
 
On a side note, I saw this guy's page, he seems quite against Pakistan in general and spews shit, what's his deal?

No idea. He has always been a bit crazy. Should see his recent posts.
 
Pretty sure Jeff Blk 3s would be a huge upgrade for BAF, 4+ Gen fighter with AESA, HMD, PL 10 HOBS missile, SD10 BVR missile plus the Pakistani made weapons like REK, AZB LR etc.

Pakistan also is indeginizing JF 17 even more with future JF 17 Alpha with indeginous AESA radar and avionics suite and homegrown weapons integrated.

BAF can get Jeffs and push for TOT and local manufacturing of parts. It would be a big boost for BD local defence manufacturing.

On a side note, I saw this guy's page, he seems quite against Pakistan in general and spews shit, what's his deal?
used to work with the guy back in my school days.... 10 years later... im a changed man... he, not so much....
 

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