Bangladesh Keen To Join Saudi-Pak-Turkey Defence Alliance, Says PM's Top Aide

[Jaeger]

Indians was demand complete boycott of Turkiye when we helped Pakistan in their latest war against India.
So, yes. We Turks would help without worry of "nukes"...

We Turks don't need Pakistan to deal with Israel.

Turkiye was always going to make money regardless.

Selling arms to an ally is one thing. Every one does that in times of conflict.

But you are okay for your nation to be wiped out and will fight alongside Pakistanis with your soldiers and your tanks and your fighter and your ships against India, because that is what a defense pact is.

And if Pakistan - India conflict goes nuclear.

A nuclear exchange, which likely Pakistan will intiate, since India has declared no first use policy but a policy of massive retaliation.

You are okay if your nation ceases to exist because Indians called for boycott of Turkish products.

How old are you kid?

 

[retaxis]

Selling arms to an ally is one thing. Every one does that in times of conflict.

But you are okay for your nation to be wiped out and will fight alongside Pakistanis with your soldiers and your tanks and your fighter and your ships against India, because that is what a defense pact is.

And if Pakistan - India conflict goes nuclear.

A nuclear exchange, which likely Pakistan will intiate, since India has declared no first use policy but a policy of massive retaliation.

You are okay if your nation ceases to exist because Indians called for boycott of Turkish products.

How old are you kid?

You realise Turkey has NATO nuclear umbrella right? How many long range missiles and nukes can you realistically deliver into Turkey bypassing their defences? 1 maybe 3?

The nuclear armageddon that NATO will respond will completely wipe out all lifeform in India with hundreds of megaton level nukes not the kiloton ones you have.

 

[Master Chief]

Selling arms to an ally is one thing. Every one does that in times of conflict.

But you are okay for your nation to be wiped out and will fight alongside Pakistanis with your soldiers and your tanks and your fighter and your ships against India, because that is what a defense pact is.

And if Pakistan - India conflict goes nuclear.

A nuclear exchange, which likely Pakistan will intiate, since India has declared no first use policy but a policy of massive retaliation.

You are okay if your nation ceases to exist because Indians called for boycott of Turkish products.

How old are you kid?

Please make sure you take your meds before writing forum posts.

 

[LeonBlack08]

Selling arms to an ally is one thing. Every one does that in times of conflict.

But you are okay for your nation to be wiped out and will fight alongside Pakistanis with your soldiers and your tanks and your fighter and your ships against India, because that is what a defense pact is.

And if Pakistan - India conflict goes nuclear.

A nuclear exchange, which likely Pakistan will intiate, since India has declared no first use policy but a policy of massive retaliation.

You are okay if your nation ceases to exist because Indians called for boycott of Turkish products.

How old are you kid?

In case you haven't been keeping up, Turkey and Israel relationship is heading towards a conflict soon. It's a matter of when. They already have a nuke threat to their country. They have the NATO nuke umbrella. In case NATO dissolves or Turkey gets kicked out of NATO because of a Turkey Israeli war, they will continue to have a nuclear umbrella because of this defence pact. Alliance with Pakistan is to Turkey's benefit as well.

 

[r3alist]

It makes no sense for the pact to include Bangladesh right now, it is a military basket case with no strategic or military value add. Why military capability does Bangladesh bring to the table ??

Yes, large country. But, their troops are not critical. BD brings no military deterrence value to the founding members of Pakistan, Saudi and Turkiye. Not even to Pakistan vs India. What is the BD military going to do against India? Line up and fire "spit balls" at them???

Sir, at this moment everything is yet to be made operational, so who does what who even knows



This agreement has had immediate political impact. And that's the point now



Even though the military formation is minimal


Rather than looking at what Bangladesh doesnt have, better to see the opportunity they present

It looks like China is behind this therefore it makes complete sense, Bangladesh natural positioning and it's population are assets

 

[Jaeger]

You realise Turkey has NATO nuclear umbrella right? How many long range missiles and nukes can you realistically deliver into Turkey bypassing their defences? 1 maybe 3?

The nuclear armageddon that NATO will respond will completely wipe out all lifeform in India with hundreds of megaton level nukes not the kiloton ones you have.

Turkey being a member of Nato, makes its ability to participate in Mecca defence pact all the more dubious.

You can not be a member of two competing defense pacts and then hold members of your first defense pact hostage to wars of allies, of your new defense pact.

Btw Nato Article 5 comes into effect when a member nation is attacked.

If Turkey send its armed forces fight to against India, to fight along with Pakistan, then it is Turkey which is attacking India and no Nato member will intervene.

 

[Jaeger]

In case you haven't been keeping up, Turkey and Israel relationship is heading towards a conflict soon. It's a matter of when. They already have a nuke threat to their country. They have the NATO nuke umbrella. In case NATO dissolves or Turkey gets kicked out of NATO because of a Turkey Israeli war, they will continue to have a nuclear umbrella because of this defence pact. Alliance with Pakistan is to Turkey's benefit as well.

You would be foolish to belive that Pakistan would or could deploy nuclear weapons against Israel.

Since its inception Pakistan has gone out of its way to assure the world, they are not a direct threat to Israel and they have only one enemy in world and that is India.

That is why they have been allowed to develop/ keep their nukes.

If there is even a hint of Pakistan being a nuclear threat to Israel. Pakistan nukes would be taken out.

And if Pakistan could have provided nuclear umbrella to any one against Israel, they would already done it for Palestinians.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Sir, at this moment everything is yet to be made operational, so who does what who even knows



This agreement has had immediate political impact. And that's the point now



Even though the military formation is minimal


Rather than looking at what Bangladesh doesnt have, better to see the opportunity they present

It looks like China is behind this therefore it makes complete sense, Bangladesh natural positioning and it's population are assets

Bangladesh is a nothing burger for this alliance or on the geostrategic chessboard, both now and 20 years from now!! How seriously can you take a country that cannot select a front line fighter in close to 30 years of evaluations and discussions and talks ????? Seriously - come on!

Even Indonesia would be more important to the pact, given that they can actually make military things and can actually make military decisions, etc.

 

[Sainthood 2.0]

Not It won't. But that's beside the point.
Syria can't save anyone either. But Turkiye want Syria in.

Turkey also wants Egypt and probably dozen other nations
Because Turkey is retarted.

 

[Afif]

Bangladesh is a nothing burger for this alliance or on the geostrategic chessboard, both now and 20 years from now!! How seriously can you take a country that cannot select a front line fighter in close to 30 years of evaluations and discussions and talks ????? Seriously - come on!

Dude, if you are intentionally lying to advance your argument I can't help you. Current MRCA program was officially initiated in 2019. Not in 1997.

Even if many defense enthusiast has said and discussed that we needed spaceship in 2012 for decades, it would still not be relevant.

 

[r3alist]

Bangladesh is a nothing burger for this alliance or on the geostrategic chessboard, both now and 20 years from now!! How seriously can you take a country that cannot select a front line fighter in close to 30 years of evaluations and discussions and talks ????? Seriously - come on!

Even Indonesia would be more important to the pact, given that they can actually make military things and can actually make military decisions, etc.

Sir, if they join I suppose procurement is obviously china, no?

And if they join consider the psychological and strategic angst for you know who

Consider the opportunity for more pressure and presence for pa

NATO has plenty of small members, they bring their location as value, Pakistan will have to take some responsibility for up skilling, like they are in Somalia.

Let's also not be dismissive perpetually of bd though I respect you may have your considered view

 

[LeonBlack08]

You would be foolish to belive that Pakistan would or could deploy nuclear weapons against Israel.

Since its inception Pakistan has gone out of its way to assure the world, they are not a direct threat to Israel and they have only one enemy in world and that is India.

That is why they have been allowed to develop/ keep their nukes.

If there is even a hint of Pakistan being a nuclear threat to Israel. Pakistan nukes would be taken out.

And if Pakistan could have provided nuclear umbrella to any one against Israel, they would already done it for Palestinians.

Well, stupid me.

The Turkish and Saudi leadership must be foolish too. They should have consulted you first.

 

[maxpane]

Sir, if they join I suppose procurement is obviously china, no?

And if they join consider the psychological and strategic angst for you know who

Consider the opportunity for more pressure and presence for pa

NATO has plenty of small members, they bring their location as value, Pakistan will have to take some responsibility for up skilling, like they are in Somalia.

Let's also not be dismissive perpetually of bd though I respect you may have your considered view

sir i dnt get it the idea about nato's small countries. i think nato's small countries are the first line of defence for european power. and they are on the same side on the map. Pakistan turkiye ksa with iran and other small countries can provide support and act as supply line through Iran and KSa thirouh water. In this scenario how Bangladesh will act. i dnt have anything against Bangladesh i just want to understand it