Bengal71
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I don't trust Saer either. He is a chandabaz and Walker supporter.
Bangladesh Socio-Political Crisis 2024 and onwards
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I don't trust Saer either. He is a chandabaz and Walker supporter.
SoulSpokesman
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LeonBlack08
INT'L MOD
Yeah, Saer has now become the DGFI mouthpiece, he made that clear with his recent activities. Clearly his allegiance lies with BNP.
Nonetheless, I want him to keep criticizing NCP leaders to keep them accountable. No politician should be beyond criticism.
As for NCP and Jamaat alliance - I think NCP killed the opportunity by going too far into West and aligning with individuals championing LGBTQ rights. The neutral or non-partisan Islamic minded folks have been very vocal against this issue.
Jamaat typically would have received these votes of practicing muslims. But if they are allied with NCP, they will lose their credibility and lose their support base.
Alternatively, Jamaat has that extremist stigma associated with it. NCP has been trying to get closer to that secular, educated urban class pro-West voters. If they ally with Jamaat, they too will lose that support base.
Let's see what happens.
John Smith
Registered Member
If I'm being real, Jamaat is a whore party, They'll ally with anyone that gets them into power. They whored themselves out to BNP and Awami League before. Those doors are closed now ofc, and they can't ally with smaller Islamic parties because those have very few votes, almost negligible.
Also, NCP has some factions that are more right-leaning. I haven't heard of their LGTBQ aligning, but they have also on occassions stood against West-created narrative. Not to mention Sarjis is currently railing against "jongi-natok" which will win them goodwill. Hasnat and some other leaders have been building relationships with Islamic parties, especially Jamaat.
Not to mention, Jamaat isn't the hardcore islamist party, like they used to be, or like some of the other islamist parties. They're more willing to make compromises with liberals.
Atleast in an alliance with NCP, not only do they have a chance to win, but also become the senior partner in the relationship. Plus, the Jamaat voters these days are more pragmatic. They won't vote for smaller islamist parties which they know won't win. Its better to have even a liberal-islamist party in the government than none at all.
Plus, in this NCP-Jamaat alliance, the NCP side will attract the urban, middle too upper class voters, while the Jamaat side will attract the rural votes.
ghazi52
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
Bangladesh is turning its former prime minister’s residence into a revolution museum
Bangladeshis see Ganabhaban palace, which Sheikh Hasina made her official residence, as a symbol of dictatorship.
AFP
04 Aug, 2025
Photographs of jubilant flag-waving crowds clambering onto the rooftop of the Dhaka palace after Sheikh Hasina fled by helicopter to India were a defining image of the culmination of student-led protests that toppled her government on August 5, 2024.
One year later, with the South Asian nation of around 170 million people still in political turmoil, the authorities hope the sprawling Ganabhaban palace offers a message to the future.
Graffiti daubed on the walls condemning her regime remains untouched.
“Freedom”, one message reads. “We want justice.”
Hasina’s rule saw widespread human rights abuses, including the mass detention and extrajudicial killings of her political opponents.
Up to 1,400 people were killed between July and August 2024 in her failed bid to cling to power, according to the United Nations.
The 77-year-old has defied court orders to attend her ongoing trial on charges amounting to crimes against humanity in Dhaka, accusations she denies.
“Dictator”, another message reads, among scores being protected for posterity. “Killer Hasina”.
Muhammad Yunus, the 85-year-old Nobel Peace Prize winner who is leading the caretaker government until elections are held in early 2026, said the conversion to a museum would “preserve memories of her misrule and the people’s anger when they removed her from power”.
Mosfiqur Rahman Johan, 27, a rights activist and documentary photographer, was one of the thousands who stormed the luxurious palace, when crowds danced in her bedroom, feasted on food from the kitchens, and swam in the lake Hasina used to fish in.
“It will visualise and symbolise the past trauma, the past suffering — and also the resistance,” he said.
“Ganabhaban is a symbol of fascism, the symbol of an autocratic regime”.
The complex was built by Hasina’s father, the first leader of Bangladesh, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, and Hasina made it her official residence during her 15 years in power.
Tanzim Wahab, the curator of the under-construction museum, told AFP that exhibits would include artefacts of the protesters killed.
Their life stories will be told through films and photographs, while plaques will host the names of the people killed by the security forces during the longer period of Hasina’s rule.
“The museum’s deeper purpose is retrospective, looking back at the long years of misrule and oppression,” said Wahab. “That, I believe, is one of the most important aspects of this project.”
Wahab said the museum would include animation and interactive installations, as well as documenting the tiny cells where Hasina’s opponents were detained in suffocating conditions. “We want young people… to use it as a platform for discussing democratic ideas, new thinking, and how to build a new Bangladesh,” Wahab said.
That chimes with the promised bolstering of democratic institutions that interim leader Yunus wants to ensure before elections — efforts slowed as political parties jostle for power.
The challenges he faces are immense, warned Human Rights Watch ahead of the one-year anniversary of the revolution.
“The interim government appears stuck, juggling an unreformed security sector, sometimes violent religious hardliners, and political groups that seem more focused on extracting vengeance on Hasina’s supporters than protecting Bangladeshis’ rights,” HRW said.
But while Hasina’s palace is being preserved, protesters have torn down many other visible signs of her rule.
Statues of Hasina’s father were toppled, and portraits of the duo torn and torched.
Protesters even used digger excavators to smash down the home of the late Sheikh Mujibur Rahman — that Hasina had turned into a museum to her father.
“When the dictatorship falls, its Mecca will go too,” said Muhibullah Al Mashnun, who was among the crowds that tore down the house. The 23-year-old student believes that removing such symbols was necessary for Bangladesh to move forward to a better future.
“They were the statues of dictatorship,” Mashnun said.
John Smith
Registered Member
You know, I'm starting to regreat how the revolution ended. I wish it was more thorough and longer. Even bloodier. Now bear with me.
In Major Dalim's book, he criticised Tajuddin Ahmed and the BAL's efforts to take the Mukti Bahini under India and the use of Indian conventional forces to end the war quickly. He said that it should be a long, bloody war of exclusively Bangladeshis to liberate the country. At that time, I was surprised. Why would anyone want more people to die and a war to last longer. He gave his reasoning that when we rely so much upon India, and we barely finish a war, we become "indebted" to them and their influence will creep into our country.
And thats exactly what happened truth be told. Indian forces not only thoroughly looted the country, they even imprisoned Major Jalil and other Bangladeshi officers who opposed the looting were sacked. India established the Bangabandhu Liberation Force, BLF, which never took part in the actual war, were completely trained and commanded by R&AW, and later became the Rakkhi Bahini. They were Bangabandhu's Gestapos who worked for the benfit of India. The whole tenure of Bangabandhu's rule was marked by unequal treaties and overtures to India. This all happened because in a way, Bangladesh was "indebted" to India for "saving" us.
Now, you must understand that the vast majority of revolutions aren't truly successful. They get crushed and we never hear of them. And even in most "successful" revolutions, what happens is merely a reshuffling of the elite which still contains vestiges of the previous regime. They still work for their own interests and just become a new regime with a paint job over the old regime.
The truly successful revolutions, like the Russian revolution and Chinese revolution were extremely bloody, violent and lasted for years. But, in the end, they were well and truly successful. Because, they thoroughly destroyed the old regime, when they took power they purged every bit of influence the old elites had. Mao, Lenin, Stalin had total power to reshape the country in the image of a new reformed country and they did.
Now, lets come to our July revolution. It was bloody, no doubt. But, everyone was very surprised at how quickly everything happened, a government that lasted for 16 years with total control over the country falling in 3 weeks. Now, I will not touch upon whether there was foreign covert help because these kind of discussions tend to attract flies(BAL dalals and Indians) and there's also no evidence for this. I will however touch upon the worst aspect of our "successful" revolution, the fact we had to rely on the army and existing elites to remove the PM and her party.
Awami League has thoroughly gutted the administration, law enforcement, intelligence services and military and placed its loyalists in all levels. These people weren't thoroughly removed. Yes, some prominent faces have been arrested and/or removed. But, the vast majority are still in place. And the nation is in a way, "indebted" to the military for removing the PM.
What has happened now? Well, first look at how Wakar is giving interviews and making statements with so much confidence, sometimes even against the government, which is highly unprofessional and frankly, treasonous. Wakar let Hasina and over 600 BAL high level leaders flee. There are still plenty of generals which were promoted by Hasina and works for her. The interim government isn't taking any action because truthfully the army has become too powerful to be taken action against. And our short-sighted people are unconditionally supporting the army because they think the army "saved" us.
The BNP also has become part of the elites. They pretty much dictate everything for the interim government. Any time someone attempts to take actions against chadabaji, BNP starts crying, because the chadabajs are from their own party. They operate all over the country with impunity, doing the same things BAL did. They have already rehabilitated multiple BAL people and integrated them into their party. There's also evidence of a pro-Indian faction within the BNP command, that is continuously hamstringing all reforms being attempted by the government and stirring up unrest for quick elections. This is happening because BNP is a lock to win the election(because our people are brainwashed and as one Sadhu said, "Democracy is for the people. But the people are retarded."). When a political party comes to power in Bangladesh, the only thing they think of is how much they can eat up the country. They are also being assisted by smaller Indian sellouts like CPB and Asad Noor, like how Jatiya party assisted BAL.
Worst of all are the oligarchs and the intelligence agencies, which are possibly the most dangerous as they work from the shadows. The bastards from Basundhara Group and pretty much all other groups still have all their money and power. They are basically the funders of any pro-India group inside Bangladesh along with their heavy influence over the government through briberies and other means.
The intelligence agencies, especially DGFI, NSI and DB still have pretty much most of the members that were BAL and Indian loyalists. Maybe some members have been removed at the top by the government, but the agencies have been compromised by R&AW at all levels. Hence why we are seeing the Zulkarnain Saer working with DGFI to push BNP and by proxy, India's agenda.
This is all happening because the people actually trying to do reforms, like NCP, and other prominent members will destroy a system that profits them all, from high level politicians, to low level chadabajs, and ofcourse India. So, they're doing everything in their power to stop the IG's reforms and work against the reformers, who quite frankly don't have all that much power to do anything.
You know what should have happened to make our revolution truly successful? A long, drawn-out bloody conflict, at the end of which, the protestors(or in this case, the rebel faction) takes complete and total power. And once complete power has been taken, we could have forced through all the reforms we needed and wanted. BNP, army elites, businessmen, intelligence agencies etc. traitorous scum would be given the crane treatement the Islamic Republic of Iran gave to traitors and workers of the previous regime. We could have completely gutted the elites, the system and reformed it in our own image for a truly new Bangladesh.
I am 99% certain that if there was a massive massacre on August 5th, and the army went to the side of the BAL regime, we'd have a guerilla civil war on our hands, a war which I'm fairly confident we'd win. In this case, India wouldn't have intervened because they lack the balls. They know that the Bangladeshi people never tolerated an oppressive foreign occupation and would kick their asses. So, India played a longer, more subtle game. They slowly took control of our elites, our military, bureaucracy, administration, oligarchs etc. They are people who will stay constant regardless of change in government. A true "Deep-state".
When I thought we have "won". When I was making my way through the occupied corridors of the Prime Minister's office and the Parliament, I felt on top of the world, absolutely elated. When we were pulling down that large Bangabandhu statue in Bijoy Sharani, I thought we were pulling down the last vestiges of the regime to raplce it with Bangladesh 2.0. I ate so much mishti I'd probably get diabetes.
And yet, one year on, I feel nothing but regret. When I see the old videos and pictures of the protests, of people fighting and dying, all the martyrs, I feel extreme sadness. I saw the interview of a 14-year old who lost his hand in the protest, he was nothing but smiles and said if it was necessary he was willing to lose his other hand for the country. All this effort, all the deaths, all the struggle in the end amounted to nothing. We are "indebted" to the army and the elites, when the ones we truly should have been indebted to were Abu Said, Mugdho, Farhan Faiyaz, all the martyrs, all the wounded protesters who forever lost their limbs, their sights for their beliefs.
In Major Dalim's book, he criticised Tajuddin Ahmed and the BAL's efforts to take the Mukti Bahini under India and the use of Indian conventional forces to end the war quickly. He said that it should be a long, bloody war of exclusively Bangladeshis to liberate the country. At that time, I was surprised. Why would anyone want more people to die and a war to last longer. He gave his reasoning that when we rely so much upon India, and we barely finish a war, we become "indebted" to them and their influence will creep into our country.
And thats exactly what happened truth be told. Indian forces not only thoroughly looted the country, they even imprisoned Major Jalil and other Bangladeshi officers who opposed the looting were sacked. India established the Bangabandhu Liberation Force, BLF, which never took part in the actual war, were completely trained and commanded by R&AW, and later became the Rakkhi Bahini. They were Bangabandhu's Gestapos who worked for the benfit of India. The whole tenure of Bangabandhu's rule was marked by unequal treaties and overtures to India. This all happened because in a way, Bangladesh was "indebted" to India for "saving" us.
Now, you must understand that the vast majority of revolutions aren't truly successful. They get crushed and we never hear of them. And even in most "successful" revolutions, what happens is merely a reshuffling of the elite which still contains vestiges of the previous regime. They still work for their own interests and just become a new regime with a paint job over the old regime.
The truly successful revolutions, like the Russian revolution and Chinese revolution were extremely bloody, violent and lasted for years. But, in the end, they were well and truly successful. Because, they thoroughly destroyed the old regime, when they took power they purged every bit of influence the old elites had. Mao, Lenin, Stalin had total power to reshape the country in the image of a new reformed country and they did.
Now, lets come to our July revolution. It was bloody, no doubt. But, everyone was very surprised at how quickly everything happened, a government that lasted for 16 years with total control over the country falling in 3 weeks. Now, I will not touch upon whether there was foreign covert help because these kind of discussions tend to attract flies(BAL dalals and Indians) and there's also no evidence for this. I will however touch upon the worst aspect of our "successful" revolution, the fact we had to rely on the army and existing elites to remove the PM and her party.
Awami League has thoroughly gutted the administration, law enforcement, intelligence services and military and placed its loyalists in all levels. These people weren't thoroughly removed. Yes, some prominent faces have been arrested and/or removed. But, the vast majority are still in place. And the nation is in a way, "indebted" to the military for removing the PM.
What has happened now? Well, first look at how Wakar is giving interviews and making statements with so much confidence, sometimes even against the government, which is highly unprofessional and frankly, treasonous. Wakar let Hasina and over 600 BAL high level leaders flee. There are still plenty of generals which were promoted by Hasina and works for her. The interim government isn't taking any action because truthfully the army has become too powerful to be taken action against. And our short-sighted people are unconditionally supporting the army because they think the army "saved" us.
The BNP also has become part of the elites. They pretty much dictate everything for the interim government. Any time someone attempts to take actions against chadabaji, BNP starts crying, because the chadabajs are from their own party. They operate all over the country with impunity, doing the same things BAL did. They have already rehabilitated multiple BAL people and integrated them into their party. There's also evidence of a pro-Indian faction within the BNP command, that is continuously hamstringing all reforms being attempted by the government and stirring up unrest for quick elections. This is happening because BNP is a lock to win the election(because our people are brainwashed and as one Sadhu said, "Democracy is for the people. But the people are retarded."). When a political party comes to power in Bangladesh, the only thing they think of is how much they can eat up the country. They are also being assisted by smaller Indian sellouts like CPB and Asad Noor, like how Jatiya party assisted BAL.
Worst of all are the oligarchs and the intelligence agencies, which are possibly the most dangerous as they work from the shadows. The bastards from Basundhara Group and pretty much all other groups still have all their money and power. They are basically the funders of any pro-India group inside Bangladesh along with their heavy influence over the government through briberies and other means.
The intelligence agencies, especially DGFI, NSI and DB still have pretty much most of the members that were BAL and Indian loyalists. Maybe some members have been removed at the top by the government, but the agencies have been compromised by R&AW at all levels. Hence why we are seeing the Zulkarnain Saer working with DGFI to push BNP and by proxy, India's agenda.
This is all happening because the people actually trying to do reforms, like NCP, and other prominent members will destroy a system that profits them all, from high level politicians, to low level chadabajs, and ofcourse India. So, they're doing everything in their power to stop the IG's reforms and work against the reformers, who quite frankly don't have all that much power to do anything.
You know what should have happened to make our revolution truly successful? A long, drawn-out bloody conflict, at the end of which, the protestors(or in this case, the rebel faction) takes complete and total power. And once complete power has been taken, we could have forced through all the reforms we needed and wanted. BNP, army elites, businessmen, intelligence agencies etc. traitorous scum would be given the crane treatement the Islamic Republic of Iran gave to traitors and workers of the previous regime. We could have completely gutted the elites, the system and reformed it in our own image for a truly new Bangladesh.
I am 99% certain that if there was a massive massacre on August 5th, and the army went to the side of the BAL regime, we'd have a guerilla civil war on our hands, a war which I'm fairly confident we'd win. In this case, India wouldn't have intervened because they lack the balls. They know that the Bangladeshi people never tolerated an oppressive foreign occupation and would kick their asses. So, India played a longer, more subtle game. They slowly took control of our elites, our military, bureaucracy, administration, oligarchs etc. They are people who will stay constant regardless of change in government. A true "Deep-state".
When I thought we have "won". When I was making my way through the occupied corridors of the Prime Minister's office and the Parliament, I felt on top of the world, absolutely elated. When we were pulling down that large Bangabandhu statue in Bijoy Sharani, I thought we were pulling down the last vestiges of the regime to raplce it with Bangladesh 2.0. I ate so much mishti I'd probably get diabetes.
And yet, one year on, I feel nothing but regret. When I see the old videos and pictures of the protests, of people fighting and dying, all the martyrs, I feel extreme sadness. I saw the interview of a 14-year old who lost his hand in the protest, he was nothing but smiles and said if it was necessary he was willing to lose his other hand for the country. All this effort, all the deaths, all the struggle in the end amounted to nothing. We are "indebted" to the army and the elites, when the ones we truly should have been indebted to were Abu Said, Mugdho, Farhan Faiyaz, all the martyrs, all the wounded protesters who forever lost their limbs, their sights for their beliefs.
AbuShalehRumi
Trusted Member
NetraNews Opinion
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Is the Jatiyo Party a pawn of the Indian state?
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I was a card-carrying member of the Jatiyo Party, holding a leadership position due to nepotism. This is my insider’s account of the Indian state’s encroachment on the internal matters of the party.
Saquib Rahman | August 16th 2025
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@LeonBlack08 @Afif @Destranator @Bengal71 @oblivion @XYZ123 @Al-Zakir and others.
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Folks are you shocked? Share your opinion...
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Is the Jatiyo Party a pawn of the Indian state?
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I was a card-carrying member of the Jatiyo Party, holding a leadership position due to nepotism. This is my insider’s account of the Indian state’s encroachment on the internal matters of the party.
Saquib Rahman | August 16th 2025
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@LeonBlack08 @Afif @Destranator @Bengal71 @oblivion @XYZ123 @Al-Zakir and others.
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Folks are you shocked? Share your opinion...
LeonBlack08
INT'L MOD
Ershad was long known to be an Indian stooge, so not surprised at all.
John Smith
Registered Member
Nope, not shocked at all. Its pretty much an open secret to anyone paying attention that Jatiyo Party was the pet party of Awami League. Funnily enough, this is Hasina returning the favour to JP. Back during the 1986 elections, which were a sham, many parties decided to boycott the election. But, to give it legitimacy, Ershad asked BAL to participate, and they broke the boycott to join and become JP's pet party.
Thats why so many people back then hated them and in the first free elections in 1991, they elected BNP.
As for Indian encroachment, ofcourse. Same as CPB, they spread their tentacles into these smaller parties too. JP should also be banned alongside Awami League.
oblivion
Registered Member
Indeed. And now BNP also became Indian lackey. BAL = India inside Bangladesh.
So we have few options left . We should choose party that's almost free from corruption and anti india( by default patriot). If not in 2028/29 , then next election.
Bangladesh needs a moderate islamist party , perhaps like AKP. And perhaps we have it already.
I hope they will avoid some controversial comments from top notch leaders , that sometimes make people insecured.
oblivion
Registered Member
@Al-Zakir bhai , @LeonBlack08 bhai, with your permission I will post the video of Pinaky Bhatacharya. But if you feel that it is against forum rule and will create flame Beit ( indeed unintentionally) , then forgive and forget) . I feel that it's something people should know , in order to end the corps business in the religion, once and for all. Also mudslinging from Bangladeshi politics should be abolished. No party will be targeted and accused of war crime only because they are serving Islam.
If any such accusation happens again, they have to meet consequences.
Please keep in mind , no slightest defamation, without solid evidence.
It's time to wake up.
Ps : Bengali only, wise Bangladeshi users please consider translating it , so that others can read.
oblivion
Registered Member
Disclaimer: I'm not defending any foreign country. I'm trying to defend an Islamic party in Bangladesh who has been baselessly accused of being genocide , rape ,etc , while it's never ever recognized internationally.
All had been happening to them because of Bangladeshi internal dirty political agenda based in defaming Islamic political ideology. When Islamic parties on rise in Bangladesh, such dirty political card had been played to subdue them.
It's my silent protest against the anti Bangladeshi and anti Islamic powers that are still trying to suppress Islamic politics inside Bangladeshi politics.
I'm a puny person , but raising my voice as my duty for my faith, for.my people.
Now I will let Allah decide my fate. Ameen!
All had been happening to them because of Bangladeshi internal dirty political agenda based in defaming Islamic political ideology. When Islamic parties on rise in Bangladesh, such dirty political card had been played to subdue them.
It's my silent protest against the anti Bangladeshi and anti Islamic powers that are still trying to suppress Islamic politics inside Bangladeshi politics.
I'm a puny person , but raising my voice as my duty for my faith, for.my people.
Now I will let Allah decide my fate. Ameen!
LeonBlack08
INT'L MOD
oblivion
Registered Member
Ok @LeonBlack08 bhai , thanks a lot. At least if Bangladeshi people can watch it from this new thread , then still it's fine.
I will keep updating as long as I get such authentication videos.
Best regards.
