Breaking: Ex-ISI chief Faiz Hamid taken into custody by military: ISPR

[SaadH]

Bro, thora haath halka.

Pakistan needs an army. We live in a tough neighborhood.

What we need is the army firmly under civilian control and the Generals not playing musical chairs with the politicians.

I am sure he's not making the case for total elimination of military, only the colonized version we've been contending with for the past 150 years.

 

[Oscar]

Bro, thora haath halka.

Pakistan needs an army. We live in a tough neighborhood.

What we need is the army firmly under civilian control and the Generals not playing musical chairs with the politicians.

Meanwhile Army relatives with the same family names/culture/social practices and habits from many of these “throw them out”

 

[Solomon2]

Bro, thora haath halka.

Pakistan needs an army. We live in a tough neighborhood.

What we need is the army firmly under civilian control and the Generals not playing musical chairs with the politicians.

What do you mean by, "civilian control"?

 

[PakFactor]

Bro, thora haath halka.

Pakistan needs an army. We live in a tough neighborhood.

What we need is the army firmly under civilian control and the Generals not playing musical chairs with the politicians.

You know, I've been thinking about this civilian control scenario. After seeing Punjab police with unchecked power to murder the average individual, and all of them being recruited poda's of the Sharif family, I think it's best the military, for the time being, stays out of civilian control.

 

[c14-Isotope]

I guess first time a former ISI chief fresh out of service is prosecuted?
This visible churn in Pak Army due to Imran khan might have long term consequences.

 

[prothought]

Translation: Allegedly... allegedly... allegedly... bughaz-e-imran... apparently... apparently... apparently... bughaz-e-imran... claims... claims... claims... bughaz-e-imran... punished... punished... punished...

What do I even say?

@Gripen9 Yar, give him the check, make it 5,500 -- even a brain aneurysm patient couldn't write this crap.

I wanted to ask if you can open a bank account in Askari Bank.



When do we hang Arshad Nadeem? He's now over-lived his 15 minutes of fame.

This's quite evident that my post was not meant for mentally challenged people. I am sure you both youthias are incapable of even reading it to the end, much less demanding than understanding/comprehending it. No wonders you both couldn't logically respond to my post.

I normally don't hit the shit. So, Iam not seeking any barb with you guys. However, youthias should be worried more about PTI's kingdome of propaganda and falsehood that is badly tumbling after Faiz Hameed was taken into military custody.

 

[Jango]

Gen Faiz’s mistake was overextending the value of his moats. Gen B has a lot more and he has secured his family a lot more as well. I’m sure he doesn’t want humiliation but he also has a lot more “moats” built around him to stay alive.

Meh not too sure about Bajwa TBH, picture abhi baki hai.

Faiz just made alot of enemies everywhere because he thought he had a clear path to the top. Those enemies are now biting him in the butt.

 

[SteppeWolff]

What we need is the army firmly under civilian control

Exactly what I want too bro, the institution needs a revamp.

 

[SteppeWolff]

What do you mean by, "civilian control"?

Strong civilian oversight he probably meant. At the moment I have no idea why we even have a defence minister.

 

[SteppeWolff]

I think it's best the military, for the time being, stays out of civilian control

Since the 50s it's the same case bro, what, ab kia ukhaar lena hay fojio nay?

 

[gangsta_rap]

General Hameed was also seen as a supporter of the Afghan Taliban, having backed their takeover of Kabul after the American withdrawal in August 2021, and he and Mr. Khan approved the policy of repatriating Pakistani Taliban militants from Afghanistan back to Pakistan, which critics say has resulted in the return of militancy in the country.
In October 2021, General Bajwa removed General Hameed as spy chief, as differences between them grew and posted him as a corps commander in Peshawar.

garbage NYT article written by a jew

 

[Lulldapull]

Since the 50s it's the same case bro, what, ab kia ukhaar lena hay fojio nay?

They got no respect for a long time now. You can thank our establishment for doing this. Pushing the army out front to take the brunt of the abuse no?

Nobody respects the chaudhry/ waderay/ Sardar no? They get ridiculed by just the regular awaam looking at their faces.

The strategy has always been to push the military out front to take the worst of the abuse, hoping the ghareeb will respect the uniform/ patriotism/ Islamic values, while they hide behind it and continue ruling no?

 

[Gripen9]

What do I even say?

@Gripen9 Yar, give him the check, make it 5,500 -- even a brain aneurysm patient couldn't write this crap.

I wanted to ask if you can open a bank account in Askari Bank.



When do we hang Arshad Nadeem? He's now over-lived his 15 minutes of fame.

trying to access my bank account online.... woh internet naheen chal raha. Will write this joker a chack as well. Yes need to increase the amount - inflation ho gayee hai throri see.

Closed my Askari account after they froze our Forex account post bumblasht in 98!

 

[UserUsing]

Former DG ISI Faiz Hameed taken into military custody, court martial initiated: ISPR​

Dawn.com
August 12, 2024

A photo of former DG ISI Lt Gen Faiz Hameed. — Photo courtesy: ISPR
Former intelligence chief Faiz Hameed has been taken into military custody and the process for his court martial has been initiated in connection with the Top City housing scheme scandal, the army’s media wing said on Monday.

The development is a first in the country’s history where a court martial has been initiated against a former intelligence chief.

“Complying with the orders of Supreme Court of Pakistan, a detailed court of inquiry, was undertaken by Pakistan Army, to ascertain correctness of complaints in Top City case made against Lt Gen Faiz Hameed (Retd),” said a press release issued by the Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR).

It added: “Consequently, appropriate disciplinary action has been initiated against Lt Gen Faiz Hameed (Retd), under provisions of Pakistan Army Act.”

“In addition, multiple instances of violation of Pakistan Army Act post-retirement have also been established. The process of Field General Court Martial has been initiated and Lt Gen Faiz Hameed (Retd) has been taken into military custody,” the ISPR further said.

The military had reportedly formed an inquiry committee in April to investigate allegations of misuse of authority against the former spymaster and head of the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI).

Media reports had said the committee was formed by the military as a gesture of self-accountability and would be headed by a serving major general.

They had said the committee was formed in the light of directives of the Supreme Court and the Ministry of Defence.

In its written order issued on November 14, the apex court had said that allegations of an “extremely serious nature” against ex-spymaster retired Lt-Gen Faiz Hameed “cannot be left unattended” as they would undermine the reputation of the country’s institutions if they were proven to be true.

The written order had said: “The allegations are of an extremely serious nature, and if true, undoubtedly would undermine the reputation of the federal government, the armed forces, ISI and Pakistan Rangers, therefore, they cannot be left unattended.”

The management of Top City, a private housing scheme, had levelled grave allegations against the former ISI chief, claiming that he had orchestrated a raid on the offices and residence of its owner, Moeez Khan.

In November 2023, the Supreme Court had asked the owner of the housing society to approach the relevant quarters, including the defence ministry, for the redressal of his grievances against the former spymaster and his aides.

The newly constituted inquiry committee will prepare its report in the light of its findings and present it to the relevant authorities, the reports had said.

In March 2023, then-interior minister Rana Sanaullah said that a probe was underway against the ex-ISI boss and his brother over alleged corruption and accumulating assets beyond means.

In March 2024, a Rawalpindi court had sent retired naib tehsildar Najaf Hameed, brother of the former spymaster, to Adiala jail on a 14-day judicial remand. Najaf, along with co-accused persons, had sought pre-arrest bail in the FIR registered with the Anti-Corruption Establishment (ACE) in Rawalpindi. The FIR had alleged that former minister for mineral resources Hafiz Ammar Yasir acquired properties worth billions of rupees in the name of benamidars.

Gen Hameed had opted to seek early retirement and sent his resignation to the high command in November 2022, according to unnamed sources.

He was among the six senior-most generals whose name was included by General Headquarters in the list of potential candidates for the two top military offices, sent to Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif for approval in November 2022.

Before assuming charge as Bahawalpur corps commander, Gen Hameed had worked in the same position in Peshawar. He had been the target of strong criticism from PML-N supreme leader Nawaz Sharif and his daughter Maryam Nawaz for allegedly having a role in their convictions and for backing the previous set-up under PTI.

As per the petition, on May 12, 2017, the Pakistan Rangers and officials of the ISI raided the office of Top City and Moeez’s residence and took away valuables, including gold and diamond ornaments and money, in connection with a purported terrorism case.

The petition further stated that Gen Hameed’s brother Sardar Najaf mediated and tried to resolve the issue. After his acquittal, the petition claimed, Gen Hameed contacted Moeez through the latter’s cousin — a brigadier in the army — to arrange a meeting.

The petition claimed that during the meeting, Gen Hameed told the petitioner that he would return some of the items taken away during the raid except for 400 tola gold and cash.

The petition claimed that retired brigadier Naeem Fakhar and retired brigadier Ghaffar of the ISI allegedly “forced” the petitioner to “pay 4 crores in cash” and “sponsor a private AAP TV network for a few months”.

As per the petition, former ISI officials Irtaza Haroon, Sardar Najaf, Wasim Tabish, Zahid Mehmood Malik, and Mohammad Munir were also “involved in the illegal takeover of the housing society”.

Gen. Faiz would take 400 tola gold in a raid? What the heck made up fairy tale sort of a case this is? And who has 400 tola gold? Who keeps 400 told gold at home? Sounds like a bogus case for revenge against Gen. Faiz. Although all the stories about Gen. Faiz and his supposed support for PTI has been full of controversies. Some say he did support PTI, some say he did not and was just portraying himself to gain trust. Some say Faiz and Bajwa were one. Some say they were arch rivals. At this point its a melting pot of horse shit and that's exactly what our military has been reduced to! A jack shit-horse shit, full of politics military!

 

[Khansaheeb]

So - why did they spare Musharraf and others before him?

They are removing pieces before some game starts, question is what is the new game? If corruption was important then half the Parliament would be empty and some generals would be out. Another question why now and what is the trigger. is he really that corrupt for the action to be taken or are pain points being alleviated?