BREAKING NEWS: Erdogan raises Kashmir issue at UNGA; calls for resolution as per UN resolutions

[r3alist]

Republic of Turkey and Ottomans are very different lol.

Anyways, ha! India can go to Russia for military training, lol.

Anyways look, Turkey will support us along with Saudi Arabia, with China against India. lol.

When throughout your history you live survive and prosper in an iron sharpens iron world, you cannot but remain the same going forward, it's encoded, whatever the political and social dispensation of the day the inherent instincts don't change

Look at Iran, even the monarchists seek the same power as the ayatollah, they disagree on who has that power

 

[TAC]

Much better than making fake commitments and then scrambling to find a rock to hide under when it’s time to actually live up to them.

That is Indian cope BS in same category as Indian Navy taking Lahore port. Apart from your own view driven by your hatred what evidence do you have that Pakistan is ‘scrambling to find a rock to hide under’? Let me make this so simple that even an Hate filled Indian can understand—- what can Pakistan give to Saudi Arabia in terms of support that Saudi Arabia does not already have? Money? Better jets? Better tanks? better weapons? Unless Ofcoarse you are suggesting that Saudi Arabia wants to nuke the Houthis? Rest assured, if Pakistan has something SA doesn’t have and needs in this fight against the Houthi’s, they will ask for it and get it. It also works in reverse in case Modi is stupid enough to try another Bollywoodesque drama for votes, but I doubt he will because he only got away with the humiliating bitch slapping he received last time because most Indians gobbled up the BS achievements Godi media and his cronies fed them, and he knows it.

 

[r3alist]

That is Indian cope BS in same category as Indian Navy taking Lahore port. Apart from your own view driven by your hatred what evidence do you have that Pakistan is ‘scrambling to find a rock to hide under’? Let me make this so simple that even an Hate filled Indian can understand—- what can Pakistan give to Saudi Arabia in terms of support that Saudi Arabia does not already have? Money? Better jets? Better tanks? better weapons? Unless Ofcoarse you are suggesting that Saudi Arabia wants to nuke the Houthis? Rest assured, if Pakistan has something SA doesn’t have and needs in this fight against the Houthi’s, they will ask for it and get it. It also works in reverse in case Modi is stupid enough to try another Bollywoodesque drama for votes, but I doubt he will because he only got away with the humiliating bitch slapping he received last time because most Indians gobbled up the BS achievements him, Godi media and his cronies fed them, and he knows it.

Do not give him too much credit with this response

The Indian position is more openly to divide Muslims and now they need to expose themselves


It's pitiful but they can't do squat except watch, including their own region, Maldives?

economic heft was meant to render Pakistan a non state yet even I am surprised seeing Pakistan make ingress into Somalia, Azerbaijan Sudan Libya, it's a waste of 30 years of diplomatic capital




The Turkish foreign minister made it clear it's still being formed and these guys as well as the houthis saga will possibly ACCELERATE the process


There is no scintilla of reversal, things are progressing

 

[Jaeger]

You are 7 times bigger country so ofcoarse you have better capacity to resist pressures so no amazing achievement as u would have us believe and don’t kid yourself, better capacity to resist doesn’t mean you are immune to those pressures. As for Punjabi bluster, who had it in botched operation Sindoor and ended up as hot air for all the world to witness?
So Supa Powa India has ‘forethought’ eh? So how come they got their feet in both American / Western boat & Russia / China boat and both sides pushing them to pick a side or go swim with the sharks?

You believe Operation Sindoor was “botched”?

That may be another serious miscalculation on your part.

Every major kinetic response India has undertaken against Pakistan since 2016 has been followed by a substantial reduction in the frequency of terror attacks emanating from Pakistan.

Perhaps you’ve forgotten or don't know what the security situation in India looked like through the 1990s, 2000s and well into the mid-2010s—there use to be monthly if not weekly terrorist attacks in India, including Kahmir.

It is precisely the escalation in the costs imposed on Pakistan after each major attack that has changed the calculus.

The Pakistani military understands the risk as well. It is only after we have started taking escalating series of kinetic measures to punish Pakistan for terrorism, that the interval for these attacks has increased to half a decade now.

For Pakistan Army too realizes sooner rather than later, one of these terrorist attack will lead to all out war with India.

A war that can not even hope to win, hence they have started keeping provocations to a minimum and far apart.

So if your definition of “botched” is an operation that changes the adversary’s calculations and is followed by years of relative reduction in major attacks, you might want to reconsider what “success” actually means.

 

[TAC]

Ok, noob question: does the Hadith you read actually explain how you’ll defend against Hindustani nuclear weapons?

Or does it just jump straight to the end—past the part where your army rides in on horses carrying the black flags of Khorasan—and suddenly the Indian leadership ends up in chains?

I wouldn’t worry yourself too much about that, given the utter incompetence displayed by Indian military in 2019 and even more so in 2025 despite massive budget, best available tech, virtually everyone willing to sell it, I wouldn’t put it past them nuking their own cities in confusion. Shooting down own helicopter, losing multiple top of the line jets including Ra-fails without apparently even managing to get a shot off and then reduced to ‘in war losses happen’, ‘ I cannot confirm how many jets we lost because operation is ongoing’ etc, now that’s ‘running to hide under rocks’. Not to mention the shameless lies from your clown of an AC and others.

 

[Jaeger]

That is Indian cope BS in same category as Indian Navy taking Lahore port. Apart from your own view driven by your hatred what evidence do you have that Pakistan is ‘scrambling to find a rock to hide under’? Let me make this so simple that even an Hate filled Indian can understand—- what can Pakistan give to Saudi Arabia in terms of support that Saudi Arabia does not already have? Money? Better jets? Better tanks? better weapons? Unless Ofcoarse you are suggesting that Saudi Arabia wants to nuke the Houthis? Rest assured, if Pakistan has something SA doesn’t have and needs in this fight against the Houthi’s, they will ask for it and get it. It also works in reverse in case Modi is stupid enough to try another Bollywoodesque drama for votes, but I doubt he will because he only got away with the humiliating bitch slapping he received last time because most Indians gobbled up the BS achievements Godi media and his cronies fed them, and he knows it.

You ask, what can Pakistan do?

Didn't guys use that now famous line when signing this pact.

"An attack one will be treated an attack on all."

What will you do if Iran or Houthis were to fired ballistic missile into Pakistan ?

So technically as per your own bluster.. your response should be that same as if Iran and Houthis have fired missile into Pakistan.

That is only.. if this pact holds any water..which we both know, it does not.

Its not even worth the expensive Saudi paper that it is signed on.

 

[TAC]

You believe Operation Sindoor was “botched”?

That may be another serious miscalculation on your part.

Every major kinetic response India has undertaken against Pakistan since 2016 has been followed by a substantial reduction in the frequency of terror attacks emanating from Pakistan.

Perhaps you’ve forgotten or don't know what the security situation in India looked like through the 1990s, 2000s and well into the mid-2010s—there use to be monthly if not weekly terrorist attacks in India, including Kahmir.

It is precisely the escalation in the costs imposed on Pakistan after each major attack that has changed the calculus.

The Pakistani military understands the risk as well. It is only after we have started taking escalating series of kinetic measures to punish Pakistan for terrorism, that the interval for these attacks has increased to half a decade now.

For Pakistan Army too realizes sooner rather than later, one of these terrorist attack will lead to all out war with India.

A war that can not even hope to win, hence they have started keeping provocations to a minimum and far apart.

So if your definition of “botched” is an operation that changes the adversary’s calculations and is followed by years of relative reduction in major attacks, you might want to reconsider what “success” actually means.

That was a good laugh, thanks. So clearly you think it was a resounding success. May India have many many more such ‘successes’. Suggest you go listen to respected experts like Sami Hamdi ( instead of Godi media) who say that SA only wanted to sign the pact with Pakistan because MBS was so amazed at the battering Pakistan gave to India. Incidentally that terror attack that happened in Dehli after botched operation Sindoor, why did Modi and his Godi not jump to blame Pakistan like they did after Pulwama?? And instead they played the whole thing down? Why so? Maybe it’s them who learned the lesson & not Pakistan as you would have us believe.

 

[TAC]

You ask, what can Pakistan do?

Didn't guys use that now famous line when signing this pact.

"An attack one will be treated an attack on all."

What will you do if Iran or Houthis were to fired ballistic missile into Pakistan ?

So technically as per your own bluster.. your response should be that same as if Iran and Houthis have fired missile into Pakistan.

That is only.. if this pact holds any water..which we both know, it does not.

Its not even worth the expensive Saudi paper that it is signed on.

You are deliberately avoiding the points I made and sticking to blinkered Indian view which is what it is for obvious reasons.

 

[Jaeger]

That was a good laugh, thanks. So clearly you think it was a resounding success. May India have many many more such ‘successes’. Suggest you go listen to respected experts like Sami Hamdi ( instead of Godi media) who say that SA only wanted to sign the pact with Pakistan because MBS was so amazed at the battering Pakistan gave to India. Incidentally that terror attack that happened in Dehli after botched operation Sindoor, why did Modi and his Godi not jump to blame Pakistan like they did after Pulwama?? And instead they played the whole thing down? Why so? Maybe it’s them who learned the lesson & not Pakistan as you would have us believe.

Well, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

So why don't you orchestrate another major terrorist attack in India—something on the scale of Pulwama, Uri, the Parliament attack or Mumbai—and see whether Sindoor 2 follows or not?

Just ask your army to make sure it’s an actual terrorist attack, with competent terrorists with real linkages to Pakistan, not botched up operation where white collered India Mujahideen module manages to blow itself up prematurely.

Then we can see whether your theory about kinectic action against Pakistan are a success or failure survives contact with reality.

 

[Mr X]

That is fairly likely. But still Pakistan won't get Kashmir.

There is no convivable scenario military or otherwise where Pakistan ends up with Kashmir.

neither will India get Azad Kashmir.

I think both nations are capable enough to annihilate each other completely. After 20 years, the question will be… whether both nations can annihilate each other 20 times or 30 times.

 

[Jaeger]

You are deliberately avoiding the points I made and sticking to blinkered Indian view which is what it is for obvious reasons.

I don't address arguments that I find idiotic or repetitive.

 

[Jaeger]

neither will India get Azad Kashmir.

I think both nations are capable enough to annihilate each other completely. After 20 years, the question will be… whether both nations can annihilate each other 20 times or 30 times.

We don't want it. Atleast not currently.

That's our maximalist position.

If Pakistan is ready to settle for what it has, then we don't want anything from Pakistan and they can live in peace.

What's more ..even IWT can be restored.

If not ..then tough potatoes ..whether dead or alive, weather through war or diplomacy there is no conceivable way that Pakistan can get Kaahmir.