BREAKING - Turkish Airforce F16 crashes - Pilot Safe

[retaxis]

From my personal experience at Sun N Fun air show in Florida this year, the F-16's that fly by was loud enough to rattle every bone in my body, if i wasn't wearing ear protection i think i would go deaf, and i can only imagine how scary that could be that a F-16 or any other fighter jet fly that close to ground, its insane.

Yeah if they broke the sound barrier at that height, it would tear a house apart and kill animals and lifestock

 

[Starlord]

Yeah if they broke the sound barrier at that height, it would tear a house apart and kill animals and lifestock

That is insane, i think that Air forces should regulate that pilots will not fly below a certain heights, regardless of the occassions. Its not only risky for pilots/fighterjet but also civilians and animals too.

 

[MMM-E]

SOLOTURK has passed by us many times flying at a low altitude at a speed of 1200 km/h and It didn't bother people at all.

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If an F-16 creates a sonic boom, that's a different matter.
During the July 15 coup attempt, the traitorous pilots repeatedly caused sonic booms in Istanbul and Ankara

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[KingQamaR]

F-16 Pilot was flying at an extreme low altitude ( just 10 m ) to salute the Turkish Air Force Academy students but its external fuel tanks have clipped trees

These extreme low-altitude flights are something Turkish F-16 Pilots always do and repeat thousands of times a year

It wasn't a mechanical failure
it was the Pilot's overconfidence and excessively extereme low-altitude flight.

Stupid and dangerous and totally pointless. The hell is the point of getting a fighter jet that literally fly at speed over the ground at 10 metres ? it's needlessly dangerous lucky he didn’t kill anyone

 

[Foinikas]

As I was bored and decided to check this forum for a couple of mins just in case you guys had any interesting thread,I saw this one and @Ali_Baba 's posts made me break my "silence" just to show you something.

First of all,I agree 100% with you Ali. And especially with this quotes:

Is it really worth it ? What is the point of this type of flying? TuAF has lost a valuable airframe, and potentially could have lost a pilot ... For what ?

Utterly reckless and unprofessional flying conduct and behaviour..

There seems to be a history of such reckless "bravado" among Turkish pilots,that has historically caused the loss of lives,both Greek and Turkish,in the Aegean. Turkish pilots often fly in an extremely unprofessional manner,just to provoke or to look more "skilled" or "tough".

I wanted to show you this specific video with the comments of a Greek pilot during the engangment.

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Go to 1:09 to see the CGI reconstruction.

Now go to 1:25

The dialogue follows as:

-We're behind a quartette,two F-16s and two RF-4s...the F-16s are "closed",the RF-4s are escorting them...
-Watch out for the RF-4s below...
-I see them...
-Watch it, 'cause they're on top of me,in case they pull some ******* off...
-Correct,I see it.
----

-Vaggelis,watch out for both of them
-Ok,I'm watching both of them...

----

-The F-16s are conducting dangerous maneuvers.I'm moving away from the RF-4s...
-Vaggelis,did you get it on camera?
-Correct,everything's recorded...
-Those dumbfucks! (big wankers/idiots/assholes)
-Did they pass in front of you?
-Didn't you see what he pulled?
-Barrel roll around you?
-Now I feel like shooting that f*** down right now,seriously.
-Relax...
-He wanted to kill me,do you understand that?


And such accidents did happen because of Turkish recklessness and unprofessional conduct.

One of the routine interception maneuvers led to a fatal accident on 23 May 2006. Two Turkish F-16s and one reconnaissance F-4 were flying in the international airspace over the southern Aegean at 27,000 feet (8,200 m) without having submitted flight plans to the Greek FIR authorities. They were intercepted by two Greek F-16s off the coast of the Greek island Karpathos. During the ensuing mock dogfight, a Turkish F-16 and a Greek F-16 collided midair and subsequently crashed. The pilot of the Turkish plane survived the crash, but the Greek pilot died. The incident also highlighted another aspect of the FIR issue, a dispute over conflicting claims to responsibility for maritime search and rescue operations. The Turkish pilot reportedly refused to be rescued by the Greek forces that had been dispatched to the area. After the incident, both governments expressed an interest to revive an earlier plan of establishing a direct hotline between the air force commands of both countries in order to prevent escalation of similar situations in the future.

 

[Ali_Baba]

As I was bored and decided to check this forum for a couple of mins just in case you guys had any interesting thread,I saw this one and @Ali_Baba 's posts made me break my "silence" just to show you something.

First of all,I agree 100% with you Ali. And especially with this quotes:



There seems to be a history of such reckless "bravado" among Turkish pilots,that has historically caused the loss of lives,both Greek and Turkish,in the Aegean. Turkish pilots often fly in an extremely unprofessional manner,just to provoke or to look more "skilled" or "tough".

I wanted to show you this specific video and with the comments of a Greek pilot during the engangment.

Go to 1:09 to see the CGI reconstruction.

Now go to 1:25

The dialogue follows as:

-We're behind a quartette,two F-16s and two RF-4s...the F-16s are "closed",the RF-4s are escorting them...
-Watch out for the RF-4s below...
-I see them...
-Watch it, 'cause they're on top of me,in case they pull some ******* off...
-Correct,I see it.
----

-Vaggelis,watch out both of them
-Ok,I'm watching both of them...

----

-The F-16s are conducting dangerous maneuvers.I'm moving away from the RF-4s...
-Vaggelis,did you get it on camera?
-Correct,everything's recorded...
-Those dumbfucks! (big wankers/idiots/assholes)
-Did they pass in front of you?
-Didn't you see what he pulled?
-Barrel roll around you?
-Now I feel like shooting that f*** down right now,seriously.
-Relax...
-He wanted to kill me,do you understand that?

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And such accidents did happen because of Turkish recklessness and unprofessional conduct.

One of the routine interception maneuvers led to a fatal accident on 23 May 2006. Two Turkish F-16s and one reconnaissance F-4 were flying in the international airspace over the southern Aegean at 27,000 feet (8,200 m) without having submitted flight plans to the Greek FIR authorities. They were intercepted by two Greek F-16s off the coast of the Greek island Karpathos. During the ensuing mock dogfight, a Turkish F-16 and a Greek F-16 collided midair and subsequently crashed. The pilot of the Turkish plane survived the crash, but the Greek pilot died. The incident also highlighted another aspect of the FIR issue, a dispute over conflicting claims to responsibility for maritime search and rescue operations. The Turkish pilot reportedly refused to be rescued by the Greek forces that had been dispatched to the area. After the incident, both governments expressed an interest to revive an earlier plan of establishing a direct hotline between the air force commands of both countries in order to prevent escalation of similar situations in the future.

Good to hear from you, hope all is well with you!

 

[Watandar]

As I was bored and decided to check this forum for a couple of mins just in case you guys had any interesting thread,I saw this one and @Ali_Baba 's posts made me break my "silence" just to show you something.

First of all,I agree 100% with you Ali. And especially with this quotes:



There seems to be a history of such reckless "bravado" among Turkish pilots,that has historically caused the loss of lives,both Greek and Turkish,in the Aegean. Turkish pilots often fly in an extremely unprofessional manner,just to provoke or to look more "skilled" or "tough".

I wanted to show you this specific video with the comments of a Greek pilot during the engangment.

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Go to 1:09 to see the CGI reconstruction.

Now go to 1:25

The dialogue follows as:

-We're behind a quartette,two F-16s and two RF-4s...the F-16s are "closed",the RF-4s are escorting them...
-Watch out for the RF-4s below...
-I see them...
-Watch it, 'cause they're on top of me,in case they pull some ******* off...
-Correct,I see it.
----

-Vaggelis,watch out for both of them
-Ok,I'm watching both of them...

----

-The F-16s are conducting dangerous maneuvers.I'm moving away from the RF-4s...
-Vaggelis,did you get it on camera?
-Correct,everything's recorded...
-Those dumbfucks! (big wankers/idiots/assholes)
-Did they pass in front of you?
-Didn't you see what he pulled?
-Barrel roll around you?
-Now I feel like shooting that f*** down right now,seriously.
-Relax...
-He wanted to kill me,do you understand that?


And such accidents did happen because of Turkish recklessness and unprofessional conduct.

One of the routine interception maneuvers led to a fatal accident on 23 May 2006. Two Turkish F-16s and one reconnaissance F-4 were flying in the international airspace over the southern Aegean at 27,000 feet (8,200 m) without having submitted flight plans to the Greek FIR authorities. They were intercepted by two Greek F-16s off the coast of the Greek island Karpathos. During the ensuing mock dogfight, a Turkish F-16 and a Greek F-16 collided midair and subsequently crashed. The pilot of the Turkish plane survived the crash, but the Greek pilot died. The incident also highlighted another aspect of the FIR issue, a dispute over conflicting claims to responsibility for maritime search and rescue operations. The Turkish pilot reportedly refused to be rescued by the Greek forces that had been dispatched to the area. After the incident, both governments expressed an interest to revive an earlier plan of establishing a direct hotline between the air force commands of both countries in order to prevent escalation of similar situations in the future.

Good to see your perspective again. Check in from time to time

 

[MMM-E]

The Hellenic Air Force lost many F-16s and MIRAGE-2000s and Pilots simply by performing foolish maneuvers and trying to escape Turkish F-16s in dogfights over the Aegean


1992 (Lt. Nikolaos Sialmas): A Greek Mirage F1 crashed into the sea near Agios Efstratios during a low-altitude dogfight with a Turkish F-16. The investigation indicated the crash happened because the pilot was unable to pull out of a steep dive in time

2006 (Flt. Lt. Konstantinos Iliakis): A mid-air collision occurred near the island of Karpathos between a Greek F-16 and a Turkish F-16. The Turkish pilot survived by ejecting, while the Greek pilot tragically lost his life

2018 (Flt. Lt. Georgios Baltadoros): A Greek Mirage 2000-5 crashed near Skyros island while returning from an interception mission

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also , November 27, 2003: A Mirage 2000 crashed into the Aegean Sea near the remote rocky islet of Kalogiri. Both the instructor and the student pilot ejected safely and survived.

also , December 2010: Two F-16s from the 115th Combat Wing collided mid-air during a training combat maneuver south of Crete. Out of the three crew members, two pilots tragically died, while one successfully ejected and survived

also March 20, 2024: An F-16 Block 52+ crashed into the sea near the islet of Psathoura. The pilot successfully ejected


How do Greek Pilots crash into the sea when there are no any obstacles ?

 

[MMM-E]

Stupid and dangerous and totally pointless. The hell is the point of getting a fighter jet that literally fly at speed over the ground at 10 metres ? it's needlessly dangerous lucky he didn’t kill anyone

You wouldn't understand this. Your RAF hasn't participated in a single dogfight since World War II


Turkish F-16 Pilot was flying at an extreme low altitude ( just 10 m ) to salute the Turkish Air Force Academy students but its external fuel tanks have clipped trees

( I could show you dozens videos of Turkish pilots performing extremely difficult and dangerous maneuvers that would defy your imagination )

These extreme low-altitude flights are something Turkish F-16 Pilots always do and repeat thousands of times a year

Because Greek F-16s are using hundreds of islands in the Aegean Sea as a cover to engage in low-altitude dogfights with Turkish F-16s

Turkish and Greek Pilots are highly aggressive tactical engagements

 

[Ali_Baba]

@baqai - can you please close this thread. It’s run it course.l thanks.

 

[MMM-E]

@baqai - can you please close this thread. It’s run it course.l thanks.

Shut up and know your place
It's fine when you write whatever you want and like each other's posts, but when I show some realities, you immediately start whining to the MODs

who are you to rule Turkish threads ? this is Turkish section and I am a Turk

Waz , Mr X , Musings​

They're doing the same thing again; it's always the same members grouping together and trying to do what they want using the Mods.


We had agreed that, apart from the administrators, only Turkish moderators would be allowed to interfere in Turkish section.

 

[Foinikas]

The Hellenic Air Force lost many F-16s and MIRAGE-2000s and Pilots simply by performing foolish maneuvers and trying to escape Turkish F-16s in dogfights over the Aegean



How do Greek Pilots crash into the sea when there are no any obstacles ?

*sigh*

Please accept the reality we all live in

 

[MMM-E]

Please accept the reality we all live in

The reality is Greek Pilots crashed into the Sea , In some cases Greek Pilots crashed into a Turkish F-16

With such aggressive Pilots in both side, these accidents are inevitable

I pray to God for mercy upon the pilots who lost their lives.

1 Turkish
7 Greek ( including 3 officers on the Helicopter )

 

[Foinikas]

The reality is Greek Pilots crashed into the Sea , In some cases Greek Pilots crashed into a Turkish F-16

With such aggressive Pilots in both side, these accidents are inevitable

I pray to God for mercy upon the pilots who lost their lives.

Please get back to the reality we all live in.

The cause of death of Iliakis was the Turk's fault:


According to reports, Captain Iliakis approached the Turkish aircraft maintaining a steady course and the required safe distance while trying to identify the nonresponsive aircraft.

The Turkish pilot, 1st Lieutenant Halil Ibrahim Ozdemir, made a turn in close proximity, crashing on top of Captain Eliakis’s aeroplane.

According to Greek pilot reports, Ozdemir is one of many Turkish pilots from an infamous Turkish Air Force squadron. The pilots of that squadron have been consistently responsible for multiple near misses in the Aegean due to their disregard for flight safety.

The tension which escalated over the Aegean after the collision was eased with telephone conversations between Greek and Turkish foreign ministers as well as general chiefs of staff.

A crisis was avoided due to the calmness of authorities on both sides.