BREAKING - Turkish Airforce F16 crashes - Pilot Safe

[Foinikas]

Greek Pilots didn't just crash into the sea once, they crashed many times and died

Turkish F-16 Pilots did not crash into the Sea

We only lost one F-16 Pilot, and that was a cowardly Greek pilot who opened fire on an unarmed Turkish F-16D during trainig flight ; one of our pilots died, the other survived

TURAF using F-16D for training ( two-seat training version )
and F-16C for interception mission

Turkish pilots also crashed into the sea. Turkish pilots also crashed on land.
I saw you incidents above. There's also another incident that Turkey denies and Greece doesn't go around advertising,but I remember you rushed to discard it as fairy tales.
But if that's not enough,you should think about the Turkish jets that were shot down by Greek Cypiot AAA in the 60s.

The reality is that both countries lose people or aircraft in training flights,but it's the Turkish pilots that have a history of unprofessional conduct and reckless maneuvering. Either out of lack of skill or out of a stupid tradition of trying to be the best by doing dangerous maneuvers. Maybe they watched Top Gun too many times and think it's true.

The bottom line is what @Ali_Baba said: It's a waste of human lives and/or materials. There's no point to it. It's utterly unprofessional.

Like always,you have several people telling you that you're wrong or going too far and you continue about Turkish superiority,the "truth",Turkish pilots best in the world etc.

I see the forum still hasn't changed and has extreme tolerance for a man with no tolerance at all.

 

[MMM-E]

Turkish pilots also crashed into the sea. Turkish pilots also crashed on land.

Turkish F-16 Pilots crashed on land but did not crash into the Sea

I remember you rushed to discard it as fairy tales.

I am giving you detailed info about Greek Pilots who crashed into the sea and died during dogfights with the Turkish F-16s


1992 (Lt. Nikolaos Sialmas): A Greek Mirage F1 crashed into the sea near Agios Efstratios during a low-altitude dogfight with a Turkish F-16. The investigation indicated the crash happened because the pilot was unable to pull out of a steep dive in time

2006 (Flt. Lt. Konstantinos Iliakis): A mid-air collision occurred near the island of Karpathos between a Greek F-16 and a Turkish F-16. The Turkish pilot survived by ejecting, while the Greek pilot tragically lost his life

2018 (Flt. Lt. Georgios Baltadoros): A Greek Mirage 2000-5 crashed near Skyros island while returning from an interception mission

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There's no need to argue over the dead

I pray again to God for mercy upon the pilots who lost their lives.

 

[MMM-E]

Like always,you have several people telling you that you're wrong or going too far and you continue about Turkish superiority,the "truth",Turkish pilots best in the world etc.

I see the forum still hasn't changed and has extreme tolerance for a man with no tolerance at all.

You are an unchanging liar and a low-character provocateur.

Nobody here said that Turkish pilots are the best in the world.

You can't be spoken to like a man; you always do this, and your cheap games wont work anymore.

I will not deal with you again .. never

 

[MMM-E]

MODs can close this thread

Eşbah , hyperman​

 

[Foinikas]

Turkish F-16 Pilots did not crash into the Sea

When you are in a forum,supposedly to discuss and debate with others,you are supposed to read what the other person shows you. From my experience here,you rarely do that.
So I will show you again:




The "extra" incident I mentioned above that you deny:

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[Foinikas]

MODs can close this thread

So,earlier you were protesting the closure of the thread and tagged admins in order for it to remain open,now that I'm engaging you with facts you suddenly want it closed?

You need to understand that the TuAF is not the super machine that you've been bragging about. In the years that I've been on the forum,the old and this one,you've often tried to portray the Greek pilots as inferior. Heck,I'm sure you consider Pakistani pilots inferior too. The truth is that Turkish pilots often crash too and they get shot down too and they are human too.

 

[MMM-E]

That was Turkish F-4 , not F-16
Old F-4 can not make a dogfight with the F-16

Turkish F-16 Pilots did not crash into the sea and die

on the other hand , min 3 Greek Pilots crashed into the sea and died
( Nikolaos Sialmas( MIRAGE-F1 ) , Konstantinos Iliakis ( F-16 ) and Georgios Baltadoros ( MIRAGE-2000 )

Even the MIRAGE Fighter Jet is more aggressive in dogfights to compare with the F-16

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Furthermore, the 1995 accident involving the Turkish F-16 was not due to pilot error, but rather a fuel pump failure ... and Pilot survived

Souce : https://www.ntv.com.tr/turkiye/galeri-turkiyedeki-f-16-kazalari,OHXJpYWqlUOQQ-fWjzXqDg/8

 

[MMM-E]

Turkish Pilots performing an aggressive maneuver with an F-4, almost touching the ground

What kind of madness is this?
The pilot deliberately performed this incredible maneuver at a very low altitude.

Unnecessary but amazing
Turkish Pilot could have had an accident here too

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[Foinikas]

That was Turkish F-4 , not F-16
Old F-4 can not make a dogfight with the F-16

Turkish F-16 Pilots did not crash into the sea and die

on the other hand , min 3 Greek Pilots crashed into the sea and died
( Nikolaos Sialmas( MIRAGE-F1 ) , Konstantinos Iliakis ( F-16 ) and Georgios Baltadoros ( MIRAGE-2000 )

Even the MIRAGE Fighter Jet is more aggressive in dogfights to compare with the F-16

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Furthermore, the 1995 accident involving the Turkish F-16 was not due to pilot error, but rather a fuel pump failure ... and Pilot survived

Souce : https://www.ntv.com.tr/turkiye/galeri-turkiyedeki-f-16-kazalari,OHXJpYWqlUOQQ-fWjzXqDg/8

I'm sorry,first of all...you just said above you'll never talk to me again...ever!

Second,I'm presenting you with information about incidents and you keep going about the same "Turkish F-16 pilots did not crash". Are you in denial?

 

[Musings]

MODs can close this thread

Eşbah , hyperman​

Do they need your permission to close it?
Calm yourself down.

 

[MMM-E]

Do they need your permission to close it?
Calm yourself down.

MODs dont need any permission

Always the same members, always the same game.
They've gone off the thread with the title again, best way to close it

Please close the thread ...

 

[MMM-E]

Calm yourself down.

I'm talking about an F-16 and he's showing an F-4.

3 Greek pilots crashed into the sea while maneuvering during doghfights
and they died

He's talking about an Turkish F-16 that crashed due to a fuel pump failure and Pilot survived

I didn't mention the 3 other Greek Pilots that fell due to other malfunctions and crashed into the sea .. and all 3 Pilots survived

Enough already, I'm tired of this user's silly posts.
and they call their friends and act as a group

 

[Foinikas]

I'm talking about an F-16 and he's showing an F-4.

3 Greek pilots crashed into the sea while maneuvering during doghfights
and they died

He's talking about an Turkish F-16 that crashed due to a fuel pump failure

I didn't mention the 3 other Greek Pilots that fell due to other malfunctions and crashed into the sea

Enough already, I'm tired of this user's silly posts.
and they call their friends and act as a group

 

[Sinan]

Is it really worth it ? What is the point of this type of flying? TuAF has lost a valuable airframe, and potentially could have lost a pilot ... For what ?

( PAF also lost a valuable and capable pilot, and an airframe in these type of theatrics that serve no value imho - an I love airshows! )

Safety limits exist for a reason.

Exactly, MME doesn't know about safety regulations. Even with the low-pass there is a minimum altitute that you have to maintain. This pilot even went below it and crashed the plane. I think, he will not fly another aircraft in the TuAF.

And i'm not making up these stuff.

Yalın Ahbab, the OG Solotürk, explained these before.

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[retaxis]

Exactly, MME doesn't know about safety regulations. Even with the low-pass there is a minimum altitute that you have to maintain. This pilot even went below it and crashed the plane. I think, he will not fly another aircraft in the TuAF.

And i'm not making up these stuff.

Yalın Ahbab, the OG Solotürk, explained these before.

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Pilots not sure in Turkey, but here, they think they are fucking superheroes and everyone is their worshipper. Thats why they do stupid sh1t sometimes and boast about it afterwards.

Breaking sound barriers creating sonic boom over life stock, caravans etc is something pilots have done many times to show off their skills.