Can Pakistan Win Bangladesh’s Trust Without Apologizing for the Genocide of 1971?

[PakistanLVR]

We are not going to teach our children your truth.

Many Pakistanis (including me) here have been generous enough, to state that, we should apologize for not accepting majority mandate of Mujib and popular vote.

For violence and atrocities, it takes two to tango. Will you ask india to apologize for invading your territories? If you won't or you cannot then you biased with an agneda.

You talk of West Pakistan's exploitation of East, if that had been the case, then West Pakistan should have suffered economically after division, which it did not to the extent, that your claim can be considered true. Yes West Pakistan Elite (not majority) had a racist attitude towards East and considered them a burden.

Way forward;

1. We apologize for denying Mujib's electoral mandate.
2. Bangladeshis apologize for colluding with infidel enemy
3. Bangladeshis seek an apology from india for invading their territories

If not then you can keep wishing for a Pakistani apology and your truth to be accepted as the only truth.

These are great points.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

"Many Pakistanis (including me) here have been generous enough, to state that, we should apologize for not accepting majority mandate of Mujib and popular vote."

This seems reasonable and the Pakistani National Assembly should say this.

But, We should not apologize for any more than this. Not for genocide or rape nonsense which is just propraganda.

 

[Master Chief]

Lol, you had Pakistan because of the support of Bengali Muslims in the first place.

I mean, even Jinnah was grateful enough to say this to Sher-e-Bengal A.K. Fazlul Haq at Lahore Resolution event.

"When the tiger comes, the lamb should definitely give way"

Indeed, the origin of the movement was in Bengal and nobody denies that. Even centuries before that, the British knew that Bengal was the one place that needed to be subdued first and foremost. Be all that as it may, 1971 is a separate issue. So it is incorrect to link the them.

The problem is not so much that Bangladesh does not wish to break the shackles of Hindustan once and for all and rise to prominence. Rather, the problem is that Hindustan does not permit it.

It can only ever be either (a) naive or (b) intentionally misrepresentative to suggest that India has EVER acted towards Bangladesh out of pure benevolence. India saw an opportunity to harm Pakistan and seized it. That is all it ever was.

Bangladeshis already know this, though some choose to deny it. They only need to look over the border at what is the status of their kin, the same Bengali nation from where the subcontinental liberation movement began all those decades ago, to be reminded of what India actually thinks of them.

Bangladesh was an expendable asset for Hindustan in 1971, just like the Northern Alliance were for 20 years, just like the Talibs now are. This is the first and last hurdle that Dhaka must overcome PERMANENTLY AND IRREVERSIBLY for the good of the Bangladeshi nation, regardless of what Pakistan does or does not do.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

Indeed, the origin of the movement was in Bengal and nobody denies that. Even centuries before that, the British knew that Bengal was the one place that needed to be subdued first and foremost. Be all that as it may, 1971 is a separate issue. So it is incorrect to link the them.

The problem is not so much that Bangladesh does not wish to break the shackles of Hindustan once and for all and rise to prominence. Rather, the problem is that Hindustan does not permit it.

It can only ever be either (a) naive or (b) intentionally misrepresentative to suggest that India has EVER acted towards Bangladesh out of pure benevolence. India saw an opportunity to harm Pakistan and seized it. That is all it ever was.

Bangladeshis already know this, though some choose to deny it. They only need to look over the border at what is the status of their kin, the same Bengali nation from where the subcontinental liberation movement began all those decades ago, to be reminded of what India actually thinks of them.

Bangladesh was an expendable asset for Hindustan in 1971, just like the Northern Alliance were for 20 years, just like the Talibs now are. This is the first and last hurdle that Dhaka must overcome PERMANENTLY AND IRREVERSIBLY for the good of the Bangladeshi nation, regardless of what Pakistan does or does not do.

Ha! Agreed with you. The Hindustanis couldn't give a damn for Bangladesh. lol. They saw it as an opportunity to break Pakistan, and they did. lol. We West Pakistanis messed up big time. lol.

Well...there is always Afghanistan to unite with.

 

[VectorZero]

You do realize that a big chunk of our nuclear scientists and personnel pre-1971 were Bengali, right?

Lol a big chunk? Where the **** did you pull this massive fart from, your ass or some Bangladeshi WhatsApp university?
The actual bomb programme only started properly after Bangladesh separated.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

Why the hell should Pakistan apologize to traitors?

You Bengalis betrayed your own country, sided with India, and invited a foreign army to break Pakistan.

You killed West Pakistani civilians, Biharis and loyal Bengalis but now cry genocide every year for sympathy.

It was a civil war caused by your leaders betrayal, Pakistan Army was saving the nation from traitors and Indian aggression.We have nothing to apologize for. Move on or keep crying Pakistan will never bend the knee to your fake history.

i wish if we had nuke to nuke you guys at that time.

Suppose we had nuclear weapons in 1971, what would the alternative ending to the war looked like?

There would be no Bangladesh and still East Pakistan. Anyways what is done is done.

Still bro its our fault, Sheikh Mujibur Rehman won the 1971 elections fair and square and should have been the PM of the United Pakistan.

 

[Starlord]

America dropped 2 nuclear bombs on Japan, and the best they got was one apology from Obama. What's done is done, BD was going to become independent anyway, it was only a matter of time, and anyone who thinks otherwise needs to go back to school and check the world map. I am just glad that it happen back in 1971, and not glad the way it did. It would've been a peaceful transition of power/independence to E.Pakistan where both countries keep the trade, visa free travel and other goodies.

 

[peacemaker99]

"Many Pakistanis (including me) here have been generous enough, to state that, we should apologize for not accepting majority mandate of Mujib and popular vote."

This seems reasonable and the Pakistani National Assembly should say this.

But, We should not apologize for any more than this. Not for genocide or rape nonsense which is just propraganda.

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How is this genorosity? Isnt it a basic principle?

 

[LeonBlack08]

The triggered Pakistanis who refuse to accept any wrongdoing and injustice by West Pakistan pre and during 1971 is no different than triggered Bangladeshis who will non-stop blabber about 3 million killed and 200k raped.

Both are brainwashed.

Read and understand history from both sides and understand what's best for both countries going forward.

Understand who really stands to benefit from continuous animosity between Bangladesh and Pakistan.

Wake up.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

How is this genorosity? Isnt it a basic principle?

That is not my opinion that is the opinion of @Goenitz , you loser.

I am of the opinion we should apologize for not making Mujib the Prime Minister.

 

[Distant_Observer]

Suppose we had nuclear weapons in 1971, what would the alternative ending to the war looked like?

East Pakistan and India would have been nuked along with Moscow.

This is the current policy now in the event of a similar event, Pakistan will nuke its own territory and any 3rd party countries involved.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

The triggered Pakistanis who refuse to accept any wrongdoing and injustice by West Pakistan pre and during 1971 is no different than triggered Bangladeshis who will non-stop blabber about 3 million killed and 200k raped.

Both are brainwashed.

Read and understand history from both sides and understand what's best for both countries going forward.

Understand who really stands to benefit from continuous animosity between Bangladesh and Pakistan.

Wake up.

Everyone knows West Pakistani military committed injustices and excesses you, joker.

The point is, Sheikh Mujibur Rehman won the elections, why wasn't he given his mandate then?

It was the fault of the democracy and not of anyone else.

Yes, but the Mukti Bahini of Bangladesh also committed injustices against the Urdu speaking Biharis. That needs to be mentioned.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

East Pakistan and India would have been nuked along with Moscow.

This is the current policy now in the event of a similar event, Pakistan will nuke its own territory and any 3rd party countries involved.

Yes Probably. But its too late for that now. What is done is done. Now the world has changed.

Pakistan is a very different country from it was in 1971 and what it was in 1947.

 

[Goenitz]

How is this genorosity? Isnt it a basic principle?

he meant generous or open minded or having a big heart, etc. Whenever there is a fight, both sides do horrible things. So, sideling those grievances and taking the first step means being generous enough there.

I hope you posed that out of curiosity and meant well.

 

[PK781]

The triggered Pakistanis who refuse to accept any wrongdoing and injustice by West Pakistan pre and during 1971 is no different than triggered Bangladeshis who will non-stop blabber about 3 million killed and 200k raped.

Both are brainwashed.

Read and understand history from both sides and understand what's best for both countries going forward.

Understand who really stands to benefit from continuous animosity between Bangladesh and Pakistan.

Wake up.

well said.

We both nations need to realize and see current world situations, geopolitics and prepare accordingly as we're in the era close to the end of times. Enemies are ready to pounce while our people keep bickering over small things (speaking in the grand scheme of things-wise).

Both countries need to establish more stronger relations and partnerships and assist each other (despite a big enemy between us). I remain hopeful that things will get even better as time goes on, and all muslims unite as 1.