China calls the US a ‘competitor’ in moon race for first time, from a position of strength

[Hamartia Antidote]

Calm down Jose. Just google 'MOON HOAX', and check out some of the documentaries.

LOL! Yeah most of the hits are debunking flat-earth types



No well respected scientist has ever said they believe the Moon landings were a hoax...not even Chinese ones.

They even said NASA had a program to collect meteorites to create 'moon rocks',

There's a big problem with that since moon rocks are completely different from meteorites

there were also rovers returning samples

So we had rovers 50 years ago that could make footprints and return 382 kilograms of moon rocks? While China's 21st century high-tech rovers can only return mere grams?

BTW scientists from all over the world can examine NASA's large collection of moon rocks...so wouldn't that pose a bit of a cover-up problem?

Where does NASA keep the Moon Rocks? - Smarter Every Day 220​

 

[Menthol]

It likely won’t be 2026, but 2027-28 looks highly likely.

USA, theoretically can go back to the moon with humans in less than a year.

Because USA mastered the moon mission decades ago.


While China needs to build everything from zero.

China moon progress is extremely slow, considering that we are living in 21st century with computer, AI, etc.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

China moon progress is extremely slow, considering that we are living in 21st century with computer, AI, etc.

Plus the SLS is completely different from the SaturnV yet it already sent a NEW space capsule (Orion) around the moon and landed back in 2022.

So many manned spacecraft the US has Crew Dragon, Starliner, Orion, and soon to be launched Dreamchaser.

 

[Nan Yang]

Plus the SLS is completely different from the SaturnV yet it already sent a NEW space capsule (Orion) around the moon and landed back in 2022.

So many manned spacecraft the US has Crew Dragon, Starliner, Orion, and soon to be launched Dreamchaser.

The Artemis SLS is not sustainable.
Everything about the Artemis is wrong.
High cost.
Wrong fuel.
No reuse.

Artemis was in fact supposed to be the quickest and cheapest way to the moon plus saving all the Space Shuttle jobs.

Take the Space Shuttle apart. Reconfigured into a capsule launcher.

What could go wrong?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

The Artemis SLS is not sustainable.
Everything about the Artemis is wrong.
High cost.
Wrong fuel.
No reuse.

So what? The entire Chinese space program wastes millions/billions every year launching non-reusable rockets. 54 last year. They still haven't perfected reuse which SpaceX first accomplished way way back in 2015...almost a DECADE ago.

BTW this was from yesterday

https://twitter.com/x/status/1805804111037919520

So launching 1 or 2 SLS expendables a year is somehow now far worse than launching 54 expendables?

Take the Space Shuttle apart. Reconfigured into a capsule launcher.

What could go wrong?

Oh so you mean the SLS program is designed like the Shenzhou..simply a reworked Russian Soyuz..so nothing could go wrong?

 

[agidest]

So what? The entire Chinese space program wastes millions/billions every year launching non-reusable rockets. 54 last year. They still haven't perfected reuse which SpaceX first accomplished way way back in 2015...almost a DECADE ago.

BTW this was from yesterday

https://twitter.com/x/status/1805804111037919520

So launching 1 or 2 SLS expendables a year is somehow now far worse than launching 54 expendables?



Oh so you mean the SLS program is designed like the Shenzhou..simply a reworked Russian Soyuz..so nothing could go wrong?

You're wasting your time responding to the guy who makes 50 cents for posting pro china anti US. They are not people looking to learn, they are here to earn their wage from CCP.

 

[Han Patriot]

LOL! Yeah most of the hits are debunking flat-earth types

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No well respected scientist has ever said they believe the Moon landings were a hoax...not even Chinese ones.


There's a big problem with that since moon rocks are completely different from meteorites
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So we had rovers 50 years ago that could make footprints and return 382 kilograms of moon rocks? While China's 21st century high-tech rovers can only return mere grams?

BTW scientists from all over the world can examine NASA's large collection of moon rocks...so wouldn't that pose a bit of a cover-up problem?

Where does NASA keep the Moon Rocks? - Smarter Every Day 220​

Seriously, watch one of those documentaries, the question they ask and the facts they divulge is truly interesting. Can you guarantee all meteorites are the same? I don't know, they just said there was an effort to recover moon origin meteorites but not sure whether they were successful. If fake moon rock can exist in a museum for decades, What else can they fake?LOLOL

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Seriously, watch one of those documentaries, the question they ask and the facts they divulge is truly interesting. Can you guarantee all meteorites are the same? I don't know, they just said there was an effort to recover moon origin meteorites but not sure whether they were successful. If fake moon rock can exist in a museum for decades, What else can they fake?LOLOL

Well then post the one here you feel has the most merit so all of us on PDF can laugh at your Chinese weak-mindedness.

I think you don't have any at all and you are just saying the above simply to be contrary.

 

[Han Patriot]

Well then post the one here you feel has the most merit so all of us on PDF can laugh at your Chinese weak-mindedness.

I think you don't have any at all and you are just saying the above simply to be contrary.

They did a poll and found out 30% of Americans don't believe NASA landed on the moon. hahahaha. Weak minded, why not try open minded? Just google for youtube videos, there was one good documentary I saw 2 months ago getting hidden in youtube. You got to search hard for it.

 

[Nan Yang]

So what? Lots of unrelated SpaceX stuff snipped.

So Artemis is moving backwards while LM-10 is moving forward.


Congratulations to SpaceX but not talking about SpaceX.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

They did a poll and found out 30% of Americans don't believe NASA landed on the moon. hahahaha. Weak minded, why not try open minded? Just google for youtube videos, there was one good documentary I saw 2 months ago getting hidden in youtube. You got to search hard for it.

*They* also did a poll that found 99% of Chinese can never list the sources for the facts they keep claiming.