China rebuffs Pakistan's P.M. Sharif on new BRI investment

China is a country Optimized to fight corruption

Do you folks think they will tolerate , Corruption with their Projects ?

China has world's strictest rules against Corruption and Bribery
 
China wants to fit the fundamental problems of good governance, strategic planning and honouring of contracts.

All of this - the same old chacha's in charge wont change or fix as it is not in their interests to do so.

Bro, let's say it how it is. The incompetent fvcks bottled it. It was a good opportunity to work with China and really improve the economy. Instead the incompetent fvcks screwed it up on so many levels. The Chinese don't like meddling. We are experts of meddling and corruption. In the end, we managed to disappoint as expected.

Now go back to the Americans and keep pleading for more loans. I wasn't crazy when I had predicted that Pakistan will survive on loans and more loans.
 
LOL Yet, PML-N keeps blaming PTI for propaganda against CPEC and China Pakistan cooperation.

Imran Khan is right now in his cell spreading propaganda against CPEC.

The Chinese will go to the extent of just protecting their current investments, nothing more.
 
The Chinese will go to the extent of just protecting their current investments, nothing more.

As they should. I stand with China on this.

We are incompetent. Simple. Let the Chinese at least protect and further develop their investments. I guess that is the best we can hope for now.
 
It needs to attract international investors from various sectors; however, the issue is corruption from local to state and federal levels. Unless we can clean the house, the concept of SEZ is dead.

I will give you an example: within the last decade, there was an IT company owned and operated by a Pakistani team in Texas. They decided they wanted to open a back office and software development team. Everything went according to plan, and when it came towards the end, the Nawaz Family sent their man to ask for a certain dollar amount. That party backed out, as they do not get involved in this sort of wheeling and dealing, so they abandoned the project altogether and opened the office in Singapore. I was part of this deal and would have made good money, but because of these corrupt practices, I lost out on almost $400,000 of profit.

So you see, these are not just isolated cases but a daily reality for outside investors. The persistence of these issues casts a shadow over the potential of SEZs, rendering them ineffective.

Also, some of these politically and militarily connected individuals purchased the land where these SEZs are to be established. So wherever you go, you end up seeing their maskeen faces, from politicians to the military.

The corruption you pointed out is blatant. Even if there is no corruption I see little reason for anyone to come to the SEZs in Pakistan
 
China wants to fit the fundamental problems of good governance, strategic planning and honouring of contracts.

All of this - the same old chacha's in charge wont change or fix as it is not in their interests to do so.

China has no problems dealing with corrupt regimes as long as they can make money
It is another way of saying there is no money to be made in Pakistan
 
The corruption you pointed out is blatant. Even if there is no corruption I see little reason for anyone to come to the SEZs in Pakistan

Labor costs would be the only beneficial factor, but they have been replaced by numerous other nations.
 
China has no problems dealing with corrupt regimes as long as they can make money
It is another way of saying there is no money to be made in Pakistan

At this point, that is the correct assessment.
 
China is a country Optimized to fight corruption

Do you folks think they will tolerate , Corruption with their Projects ?

China has world's strictest rules against Corruption and Bribery
China is one of mist corrupt country that said they don’t like delays.
 
Thousands of overseas Pakistani like me invested in Gwadar , due to CPEC drama.
We got nothing out of it. Thanks to regime change operation.
 
Bro, let's say it how it is. The incompetent fvcks bottled it. It was a good opportunity to work with China and really improve the economy. Instead the incompetent fvcks screwed it up on so many levels. The Chinese don't like meddling. We are experts of meddling and corruption. In the end, we managed to disappoint as expected.

Now go back to the Americans and keep pleading for more loans. I wasn't crazy when I had predicted that Pakistan will survive on loans and more loans.

China can't be so naive to spend billions on roads, Gwadar port etc and then realise its all a failure due to Pakistan incompetence. They must have done their homework. The security problem is the biggest issue, despite big talk Pakistan cannot guarantee security, Afghanistan is hot and BLA can strike anytime.
 
Pakistan failure to provide security , Pakistan failure to stabilize the country politically and Pakistan failure to have stabilize the economy are the three major reasons for China to take few steps back ... Add to it the double game Pakistan military generals are playing did not go well with China leadership .. in the end Pakistan is loosing its closest friend very very fast. Thank you army generals like bajwa and this one retired asim muneer ...
 
Thousands of overseas Pakistani like me invested in Gwadar , due to CPEC drama.
We got nothing out of it. Thanks to regime change operation.

invested in real estate I assume
 
INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS

China rebuffs Pakistan's Sharif on new BRI investment​

Islamabad hoped Beijing visit would breathe new life into infrastructure deals
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Chinese President Xi Jinping, right, and Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif greet each other at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing on June 7. © Reuters
ADNAN AAMIR, Contributing writerJune 11, 2024 12:21 JST
ISLAMABAD -- Pakistani leader Shehbaz Sharif went to China hoping to land more big-ticket energy and infrastructure deals as his county reels from an economic crisis.
While Sharif and his entourage of cabinet ministers met with President Xi Jinping and other top officials in Beijing, the group left nearly empty handed after finishing a five-day official visit this past weekend.
That may be the new normal for Pakistan's leadership as China cools on the South Asian nation and its much-hyped $50 billion China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), a cornerstone of Beijing's globe-spanning Belt and Road Initiative.

"The Chinese have become wary of putting in more money since they know it is a financial black hole due to Pakistan's long-term poor economic circumstances," Jeremy Garlick, an associate professor of international relations at Prague University of Economics and Business, told Nikkei Asia. "China needs to maintain the facade that CPEC is working because it is supposed to be a key part of the BRI."
Last month, Islamabad requested an additional $17 billion of China-funded energy and infrastructure projects following a key meeting of the body that decides on future CPEC investments.
Before his trip, Sharif's first to China since taking office in March, Pakistani officials had claimed that an upgraded version of the multibillion-dollar agreement would be formally launched in Beijing.
The Chinese response, however, was lukewarm. A 32-point joint statement issued this weekend revealed that Pakistan eked out few concrete gains, with only a vague mention of an upgraded economic cooperation deal.
"Earlier CPEC investments in the power sector were rushed by political needs, and might not have been optimal," said Stella Hong Zhang, a China public policy postdoctoral fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School's Ash Center.
That was highlighted by cash-strapped Pakistan's recent call to restructure more than $15 billion in power-plant debt owed to Chinese energy producers operating power plants in Pakistan. The surprise request came as the Islamabad negotiates a $6 billion to $8 billion bailout with the International Monetary Fund.
Another aggravating factor is security. On the weekend, Pakistan committed to ensuring the safety of Chinese workers in the country and projects after a string of deadly militant attacks alarmed Beijing, casting further doubt on future investment.
Still, Sharif's entourage managed some modest gains. China agreed to advance the Main Line 1 (ML-1) Railway project in stages. With a price tag of $6.7 billion, the ML-1 will improve Pakistan's railway infrastructure between the southern port city of Karachi and Peshawar in the north in three phases. China has only agreed to the first phase.
There was also a deal to upgrade a portion of the Karakoram Highway that connects Pakistan with China through mountainous terrain, which is closed during winter due to heavy snowfall.
"We will not see big investments, nor will we see China [completely] withdrawing from cooperation with Pakistan," Garlick said.
Mohammad Shoaib, an assistant professor at Quaid-i-Azam University Islamabad, said that further progress on Chinese investment in Pakistan will likely come slowly, and remain that way: "CPEC will continue to be a major enterprise in terms of rhetoric only," Shoaib said.
However, there may be potential for nongovernmental economic cooperation between the two countries, he added. "China will be interested in doing business with a growing number of enthusiastic entrepreneurs in Pakistan," Shoaib added.
Zhang, from Harvard's Kennedy School, agrees. The Chinese "government will urge companies to seek opportunities in Pakistan," she said. "Whether such activities will bear fruit will still depend on how much Pakistan's business environment improves."
All based on hearsay, even though they weren't in the meeting they concoct fantasical statements. CPEC is live and kicking and contributing immensly to Pakistan and China and the next phase will kick off.
 
Thousands of overseas Pakistani like me invested in Gwadar , due to CPEC drama.
We got nothing out of it. Thanks to regime change operation.

One piece of advice: In this sort of venture in countries like Pakistan, which has political instability, do not invest until the project is completed. This nonsense isn't just with Gwadar but also the same with ARY Laguna, etc.

invested in real estate I assume

That's the only thing you can really do at this point, which is real estate investment; you basically buy a file and hold it until authorization is given to build or sell it.
 

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