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Right now, China's trump card is the virtual monopoly on Rare Earths , but all other countries realise is and are working on developing alternatives . In a few years, alternate sources will emerge and China will not have the same leverage it does today.
As for rare earth, it's just a small card China can play, and good luck with the west to find alternatives.

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China's dominance is unrivaled manufacuturing capacity, unbeatable cost effective quality products and global supply chains of all levels, not some raw material exports.
All those factors work in the absence of protectionist policies. Right now, in the trade negotiations , the US is not asking for unbeatable cost effective quality products, but only to lift export controls on rare earth magnets. If the other factors were enough, China would not have had to place export controls on the products where it has a virtual monopoly and the world can't do without.
 
Without massive manufacturing, foreign brands won't last long.

A large consumer market has been around a lot longer than 25 years.
The thing is people in China weren't really exposed to it so you are completely unaware of how long it has existed.

Flipping through products in the "Amazon of the World" in the 20th Century - the Sears Roebuck catalog
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Half of the global manufacturing capacity being in the hands of one country, this miracle is just mindblowing to say the least.
 

China charges the roof of the world with energy — A project designed to dominate the planet​

by Fridas S.
August 29, 2025
China’s energy project on Himalayan peak


High above sea level, where the air thins and the sky burns a deeper shade of blue, lies the Tibetan Plateau, famously known as the “roof of the world.” For centuries, this rugged terrain was considered remote, untouchable, and too hostile for human ambition. But now, China sees something else: the perfect place to build an energy empire. This is not just a renewable energy project; it’s a blueprint for dominance.

China’s ambition to expand renewable technology by exploiting the mountains​

The idea of China making the Himalayas a huge energy giant is quite ambitious. The plateau stretches across thousands of kilometers and gives one of the densest chances of renewable energy on our planet. The strategy of the government is to build solar farms, wind plants, and hydro stations, which can produce power of a magnitude that may be more than a large number of current projects around the world.

This is not merely electricity generation that can be used within the community. The grand scale of the project indicates the desire of Beijing to meet expanding domestic needs and to produce a surplus large enough to sell to other countries. By doing so, the project would reshape the way the world views the prospects of energy frontiers- from deserts and oceans to the highest elevation points of the planet itself.

Making the most of nature’s most extreme forces​

At high altitude, the sun rays are not only more direct but also not filtered by the atmosphere, which would also improve the efficiency of the solar panels. Photovoltaic cells embedded in vast plantations at the top of plateaus and in gorges can produce power even in the coldest months. The winds that used to blow across these open lands and were once testing life can now be used as a reliable source of energy due to big wind turbines.

Hydropower remains a big part of renewable energy. The Himalayan rivers, which are fed by glaciers, run down with colossal power and thus become favourable hydroelectric dams. The confluence of these resources – solar, wind, and water – forms the energy trifecta that fewer places on earth could be involved in. With the mounting experience in high altitude engineering in China, it is becoming an eventual possibility.


Beyond national dominance: extending towards global dominance​

Energy security was a priority in the Chinese strategic thinking all the time. Given that it controls the roof of the world, Beijing does this not only to satisfy the local requirements but also to seek influence in the world energy market. The project could also generate enough power, allowing delivery to regions outside of China, via sophisticated ultra-high-voltage lines that could carry the power across countries, just like how Japan’s solar sphere hits U.S homes.

The human effect and its environmental cost over the years​

But lofty schemes their own questions pose. The Indigenous Tibetan groups were dislocated. The culture that the groups shared was split, and the environment was no longer fixed. Containing can also change the ecosystem and threaten delicate biodiversity. Green energy, with any of the proportions to it, does not disappear without any effects.

More than a renewable source of energy, China’s project on the roof of the world is also a dream of global power. Through the conquest of the elements of sun, wind, and water under the most extreme of circumstances, China hopes to reinvent not only its own future but also that of world energy (just like how they unleashed a powerful hidden force). The concern is that: Will this be a shining example of sustainable leadership or the birth of a new energy empire in the world?

 
That is great, but Africa's total expenditure is less than 3% of global expenditure. To sell 45% of total global production, you need access to markets that have the income to buy it.

Africa as a whole has a population of 1.47 billion with a GDP of $2.83 trillion ( $10.83 PPP ).
India as a whole has a population of 1.42 billion with a GDP of $4.19 trillion ( $17 trillion PPP ).

Africa is large, and has a lot of potential for growth and only a crazy person will ignore it.
 

China charges the roof of the world with energy — A project designed to dominate the planet​

by Fridas S.
August 29, 2025
China’s energy project on Himalayan peak


High above sea level, where the air thins and the sky burns a deeper shade of blue, lies the Tibetan Plateau, famously known as the “roof of the world.” For centuries, this rugged terrain was considered remote, untouchable, and too hostile for human ambition. But now, China sees something else: the perfect place to build an energy empire. This is not just a renewable energy project; it’s a blueprint for dominance.

China’s ambition to expand renewable technology by exploiting the mountains​

The idea of China making the Himalayas a huge energy giant is quite ambitious. The plateau stretches across thousands of kilometers and gives one of the densest chances of renewable energy on our planet. The strategy of the government is to build solar farms, wind plants, and hydro stations, which can produce power of a magnitude that may be more than a large number of current projects around the world.

This is not merely electricity generation that can be used within the community. The grand scale of the project indicates the desire of Beijing to meet expanding domestic needs and to produce a surplus large enough to sell to other countries. By doing so, the project would reshape the way the world views the prospects of energy frontiers- from deserts and oceans to the highest elevation points of the planet itself.

Making the most of nature’s most extreme forces​

At high altitude, the sun rays are not only more direct but also not filtered by the atmosphere, which would also improve the efficiency of the solar panels. Photovoltaic cells embedded in vast plantations at the top of plateaus and in gorges can produce power even in the coldest months. The winds that used to blow across these open lands and were once testing life can now be used as a reliable source of energy due to big wind turbines.

Hydropower remains a big part of renewable energy. The Himalayan rivers, which are fed by glaciers, run down with colossal power and thus become favourable hydroelectric dams. The confluence of these resources – solar, wind, and water – forms the energy trifecta that fewer places on earth could be involved in. With the mounting experience in high altitude engineering in China, it is becoming an eventual possibility.


Beyond national dominance: extending towards global dominance​

Energy security was a priority in the Chinese strategic thinking all the time. Given that it controls the roof of the world, Beijing does this not only to satisfy the local requirements but also to seek influence in the world energy market. The project could also generate enough power, allowing delivery to regions outside of China, via sophisticated ultra-high-voltage lines that could carry the power across countries, just like how Japan’s solar sphere hits U.S homes.

The human effect and its environmental cost over the years​

But lofty schemes their own questions pose. The Indigenous Tibetan groups were dislocated. The culture that the groups shared was split, and the environment was no longer fixed. Containing can also change the ecosystem and threaten delicate biodiversity. Green energy, with any of the proportions to it, does not disappear without any effects.

More than a renewable source of energy, China’s project on the roof of the world is also a dream of global power. Through the conquest of the elements of sun, wind, and water under the most extreme of circumstances, China hopes to reinvent not only its own future but also that of world energy (just like how they unleashed a powerful hidden force). The concern is that: Will this be a shining example of sustainable leadership or the birth of a new energy empire in the world?

I see China's expansion of energy is impressive. How are the electricity bills for consumers in China?
And does China have or plan to build large, grid-scale battery farms where they store excess energy? I heard in Australia and the US, there are plans to build large Tesla battery farms where they store their surplus renewable energy.
 
Africa as a whole has a population of 1.47 billion with a GDP of $2.83 trillion ( $10.83 PPP ).
India as a whole has a population of 1.42 billion with a GDP of $4.19 trillion ( $17 trillion PPP ).

Africa is large, and has a lot of potential for growth and only a crazy person will ignore it.
Who said anything about ignoring Africa ?
The point is that neither India nor Africa , nor even China or the United States can consume 45% of world production . Even if Africa produces absolutely nothing on its own and import 100% of what it needs from China and nowhere else, it will make barely a dent towards absorbing the surplus capacity China has.
 
Who said anything about ignoring Africa ?
The point is that neither India nor Africa , nor even China or the United States can consume 45% of world production . Even if Africa produces absolutely nothing on its own and import 100% of what it needs from China and nowhere else, it will make barely a dent towards absorbing the surplus capacity China has.
The west still needs Chinese products in the future, maybe even more. They have been deindustralized by China and had long lost their capability to support themselves and the rest of the developing world just can't compete with China.
 
The west still needs Chinese products in the future, maybe even more. They have been deindustralized by China and had long lost their capability to support themselves and the rest of the developing world just can't compete with China.
You are right that the West is dependent on Chinese production today, but you seem to be ignorant of the fact that the whole point of the trade war is to mitigate as much as possible, if not completely remove that dependence. That is why they have comitted to invest trillions of dollars in creating industrial capacity in their own countries and the US has slapped high tariffs on all countries, not just China - though most Chinese goods are subject to the highest tariff rates ( 10% baseline + 20% fentanyl + 25% pre-existing Section 301 tariffs from Trump 1.0).
 
That is why they have comitted to invest trillions of dollars in creating industrial capacity in their own countries
Their manufacturing sector is still shrinking year on year if not month on month.
 
Their manufacturing sector is still shrinking year on year if not month on month.
Exactly. That is precisely what they are trying to reverse. You are talking about the past and present. I am talking about the future .
 
Exactly. That is precisely what they are trying to reverse. You are talking about the past and present. I am talking about the future .
Future is that they come less and less relevant when it comes manufacturing sector, all data points to this trajetory.
 
Iran War: Trump caught with pants down - China refused to use the Iran War to destroy Trump
Trumpstein Epstein links: Trump caught with pants down - China refuses to use this to destroy Trump

How to destroy Trump - destroy the US currency with a BRICS gold backed currency or a SCO gold backed currency. Or back the yuan with gold and have Chinese bonds and debt payable in a basket of Eurasian currencies at a stabilized value.

US is again caught with their pants down with jobs numbers that is trying to be used to get the fed to lower interest rates. Imagine watching Star Wars and when Admiral Akbar says the shields are down commence the attack on the Death Star's main reactor, and China responds with - we don't want any trouble, we want to make money with the Evil Empire.

Shields are down, pants are down, gold and silver can skyrocket. Trump chimps out at the idea of a BRICS gold since that would end the dollar empire and weaken the plan to go to bitcoin.

Trump repeats tariffs threat to dissuade BRICS nations from replacing US dollar​


Fiat dollars replaced gold as money, returning to gold as money would democratize money away from the US, as the US only owns a small fraction of total gold, Americans and American investments, etc own nearly half of bitcoin. bitcoin is the way the US takes over the globe, gold is the way the people and many nations take over the globe from Washington.

Gold and silver are the only thing that can save China, other than China submitting to a system where the US controls the global economy far more than today.
 

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