Chinese ground war fighting capacity is based on industrial capacity

[Jaeger]

Don't troll, you clearly said that on very first page of this thread you jester

You must have been smoking some good shjt before logging jn

But I don't have time for your delusional nonsense. Please quote the exact post where I claimed India would launch ICBMs at China and China will not retaliate.

Provide the evidence, or stop putting words in my mouth.

Your inability to distinguish what I actually said from what you wish I'd said is not my problem.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Actually not in Pakistan's interests to see China completely crush India

Agreed.

Pakistan has no other nearby neighbors with air forces for it to test China's weapons against.

 

[Yasser76]

Older wars can't always be a yardstick to measure every possible war of future....

Yet dont you always talk about 1971?

 

[Nimble]

Yet dont you always talk about 1971?

I never started any topic over 1971.... maybe I have replied once or twice if the discussion is already going on....

 

[RAJPUT]

A humble message to the Indians boasting on here...

China has been preparing for a direct confrontation with the hyper-power military of the United States of America and NATO in one package, alone.

India has at best maintained parity with the armed forces of Pakistan, let alone the giant, technologically advanced, educated, space leader, ship building leader, minerals leader, batteries leader, research leader, exports leader, manufacturing leader, and soon to be a hyper power, Peoples Republic of China on top of being an ally to Pakistan which on its own has been enough to keep Bharat Moota at bay.

It would be best to maintain these delusions against a tiny, economically dead Pakistan, than even have the audacity to bat an eye at ever-growing China.

You will be blown to oblivion, forever, no exaggeration.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

When did China become a leader in space?

 

[ety]

When did China become a leader in space?

The United States maintains an overall lead in space technology—largely driven by commercial powerhouses like SpaceX—though China has closed the gap significantly and leads in select areas such as Earth observation, satellite navigation, and lunar far-side exploration. [1, 2, 3]

Where the United States Leads

• Reusable Launch Vehicles: American private companies, particularly SpaceX, dominate heavy-lift and rapid-cadence reusable rockets (such as Falcon 9 and Starship), allowing the U.S. to place the vast majority of global mass into orbit at a lower cost per kilogram. [1, 2]
• Commercial Satellite Constellations: The U.S. leads in massive low-Earth orbit (LEO) broadband networks, anchored by operations like Starlink. [1, 2]
• Deep Space & Heavy Lifting: NASA’s Artemis architecture and deep-space science payloads continue to set benchmarks in interplanetary exploration, despite timeline and budget challenges. [1]

Where China Leads or Matches the U.S.

• Position, Navigation, and Timing (PNT): China’s Beidou satellite navigation system and its remote-sensing/Earth-observation networks have surpassed or matched U.S. capabilities in certain technical metrics and high-cadence imaging. [1, 2]
• Lunar Exploration: China’s Chang’e program has executed a flawless series of lunar missions, including the historic first landing and sample return from the far side of the moon (Chang'e 6). [1, 2]
• Space Stations: China operates the modern, modular Tiangong space station independently, while the aging International Space Station (ISS) faces retirement around 2030. [1, 2, 3]
• Rapid Catch-up in Reusable Rockets: Chinese commercial firms like LandSpace have begun successfully testing and landing rocket boosters, signaling that China is rapidly closing the last major hardware gap in reusable launch systems.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

*yawn*

Ok.

 

[RAJPUT]

When did China become a leader in space?

Just conveniently ignored everything else. NASA is down in the gutter as of now.
The industrial base of Chine can give them lead in not too long.
Only a matter of time now.

Just don't have your inherent biases and look at it from a practical point of view.

 

[SolarWarden]

*yawn*

Ok.

Folks forget CIA, USAF/Space Force, and NRO have their own space capabilities.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Just conveniently ignored everything else. NASA is down in the gutter as of now.
The industrial base of Chine can give them lead in not too long.
Only a matter of time now.

Just don't have your inherent biases and look at it from a practical point of view.

Can you show where I conveniently ignored everything else? I chose one item. You were kind enough to support my premise that while China has certainly made inroads, they are not yet the leader in space.

Thank you for that.

 

[MH.Yang]

It is heartening to see that you Han Chinese do not consider eastern China as real China and would only be bothered if the cities on your west coast are threatened.

India is in the process of testing 8000 Km MIRVed submarine launch ballistic missiles, its surface lauched counterpart has already been inducted.

So there will be no interception oportunities with them.

He means that India's missiles first need to fly over the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau, which has a depth of 2800km, and this is sufficient for China to intercept them.

However, the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau is an uninhabited area, lacking industrial zones and densely populated cities, with only snow- mountains and ubiquitous mountain hares and Tibetan antelopes.

Meanwhile, the missile battalion deployed by China in the ALi region is only 330km away from New Delhi.



btw: The range of K-4 is 3500km. The noise from Indian submarines is too loud for it to infiltrate the South China Sea. The hydrological conditions in the South China Sea make it impossible for even American submarines to lurk, making it a backyard for Chinese submarines. Indian submarines can only patrol in the Bay of Bengal. That is to say, even if China does not intercept, it at most threatens the second tier city of Chengdu in China. It cannot threaten first-tier cities such as Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, and Shenzhen.

 

[MH.Yang]

Well we also have nuclear weapons.

Question - how many these robot factories will be swept away, if a mega dam like 3 gorges dam were to be blow up ?

The Three Gorges Dam is a gravity dam and can withstand nuclear weapons.

 

[MH.Yang]

Hmm.. What is the difference between a guided rocket and a conventional ballistic missile?

The cost of a 300mm long-range rocket is 300k CNY (40k USD), while the cost of the Indian K-4 is 30 million USD. Even in low production peacetime, China's annual production of 300mm/370mm long-range rockets is close to 200000, while India only has a total of 24 K-4 missiles.

 

[RAJPUT]

Can you show where I conveniently ignored everything else? I chose one item. You were kind enough to support my premise that while China has certainly made inroads, they are not yet the leader in space.

Thank you for that.

Give that the US had a considerable lead on space related technologies, the speed with which China is progressing, it is only a matter of time.

Also, I'll give that to you, but for not too long.

I mean you have to agree, if you're being unbiased, that China is the only REAL competitor the United States have had in long. That was my entire premise, rest are just timelines.