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An Indian admiral publicly articulated should there be “any action” between Indian troops and the PLA in the Himalayas, India will sink Chinese shipping (commericial?) in the Indian Ocean.

Clearly articulated threat to China’s SLOCs

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How China Went from 19th-Century Subjugation to Global Superpower​

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May 11, 2025
China is one of the world's oldest civilizations. It has been a great power in the past and aspires to become a global superpower in the future. Today’s China it is still grappling with traumas that go back to the 19th century.

Back then China sold silk, tea and porcelain to the British Empire, but hardly bought any British goods. To balance its trade with China, the British smuggled Indian opium into Chinese ports, which immediately increased demand for the drug and brought detrimental effects to the Chinese economy and the population.

The Emperor's protests did not prevent the British Empire from forcing through the legalization of opium in China after waging two wars. Japan also surprised and devastated the country in what is known as the Century of Humiliation. From then until today, China has focused on steering its destiny and disarming its rivals.

@Yommie
@Beijingwalker
@Fatman17

we find the China was second to India by 1820, by the early 19th Century :coffee:

=> When graphed, one can see that South Asia was the world's largest economy from year 1 to year 1500, when it lost the position to China. South Asia again regained the pole position in the year 1700 before losing it to China in year 1820.


here, i find its the "racial" background since last over 1000s years of history of world, why the India - China recovering their historic economic volume 👍

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@Yommie
@Beijingwalker
@Fatman17

we find the China was second to India by 1820, by the early 19th Century :coffee:

=> When graphed, one can see that South Asia was the world's largest economy from year 1 to year 1500, when it lost the position to China. South Asia again regained the pole position in the year 1700 before losing it to China in year 1820.


here, i find its the "racial" background since last over 1000s years of history of world, why the India - China recovering their historic economic volume 👍

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almost Non sensical!

bias overload!

i felt color blind, for a while!
 
Excellent article on HSU-100 XLUUV
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The HSU-100 underwater drone Is a Silent Predator—and the U.S. Navy May Not Hear It ComingDuring the 3 Sep 2025 military parade in Beijing - the HSU100 extra-large unmanned underwater vehicle (XLUUV), fitted with retractable sensors. Occupying the bulk of the length of the trailer on which it sat, the HSU100 is estimated to measure perhaps 15m long.In the age of autonomous warfare, the battlefield beneath the waves is evolving faster than most navies can adapt.

China’s HSU-100 unmanned underwater vehicle (UUV) is not just a technological curiosity—it’s a strategic disruptor. With its super-stealth configuration, the HSU-100 represents a new class of threat that could quietly undermine U.S. naval dominance in contested waters like the South China Sea, the Philippine Sea, and beyond. Emissions-Free Intelligence GatheringThe HSU-ce100’s most dangerous attribute isn’t its payload—it’s its silence.

Unlike traditional submarines or drones that rely on radio frequency (RF) transmissions or active sonar, the HSU-100 operates without emitting detectable signals. Its four telescopic masts—each rising just 3 feet above the surface while the hull remains submerged—enable it to:1. Sense the environment with Lidar up to 1,000 meters, even underwater.2. Communicate via laser with satellites, bypassing RF interception.3. Gather electronic intelligence passively, without betraying its position.4. Navigate using Beidou GPS, without emitting any signal.

This configuration allows the HSU-100 to operate in a dense electromagnetic environment without contributing to it. For U.S. ISR assets—whether satellites, P-8 Poseidons, or surface ships—this means the drone is effectively invisible unless it’s spotted visually. And in choppy seas, with waves and reflections masking its slender masts, even that is a long shot.

Silent Propulsion, Strategic ReachPowered by electric batteries and pump-jet propulsion, the HSU-100 glides silently beneath the surface. No cavitation. No diesel hum. No acoustic signature that passive sonar arrays can latch onto. This makes it ideal for:Infiltrating forward bases like Guam or Okinawa.Shadowing U.S. submarines in shallow waters.Mapping seabed infrastructure or undersea cables.

Deploying mines or sensors in strategic chokepoints.In essence, it’s a ghost—one that can loiter, listen, and act without ever announcing its presence. Why Traditional Detection Won’t WorkThe U.S. Navy’s anti-submarine warfare (ASW) doctrine is built around detecting noise, intercepting signals, and exploiting magnetic anomalies.

The HSU-100 sidesteps all three:See table appended in attached 2/3 post below.Unless the U.S. Navy deploys persistent seabed sensors, autonomous hunter-killer UUVs, or AI-enhanced ISR fusion, the HSU-100 will remain undetectable until it’s too late. Strategic ImplicationsThis isn’t just a tactical nuisance—it’s a strategic shift. The HSU-100 enables China to:*Conduct covert surveillance near U.S. assets.*Challenge freedom of navigation without escalation.*Undermine deterrence by operating below the threshold of detection.

The HSU100 has an X-form rudder at its tail, this allow it to sit silently at the bottom of the sea while it waits for its prey.In a future conflict, the first strike may not come from a missile or a fighter jet—it may come from a silent drone that’s already in place, already watching, already prepared.

ConclusionThe HSU-100 is not a weapon of mass destruction. It’s a weapon of mass ambiguity. And in the fog of war, ambiguity is power. If the U.S. Navy doesn’t adapt its detection doctrine to account for silent, autonomous threats like the HSU-100, it may find itself outmaneuvered not by force, but by finesse.1/3

 
An Indian admiral publicly articulated should there be “any action” between Indian troops and the PLA in the Himalayas, India will sink Chinese shipping (commericial?) in the Indian Ocean.

Clearly articulated threat to China’s SLOCs

30:00 onwards
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These indian primates can huff and puff all they want but they are useless, without any skills, and patheic liars. China can level their whole fuking country in a week, but these dirty street shitters can only lie.
 
... He has touted the value of a "strong navy to safeguard national security". He cites 470 invasions between 1840 and 1949 that brought "untold suffering" - as the once-powerful Qing empire cracked, China plunged into turmoil, revolution and civil war. ...
470 invasions by whom? Is there a list?
 
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The aspiration, motivation and some level of technical foundation are there for establishing a SSN fleet by the Indian Navy.And once operational, could increase the risk of China’s strategic calculation regarding power projection into the Indian Ocean.

But would the increased risk override Chinese decisions? We can put a question mark.The PLAN is building capabilities to mitigate such risk.It is expanding its SSN fleet at a significant tempo. 8 new 093B has been launched and some entered service in the past 3 years.

And the production of capacity is far from fully utilized.Also China showcased an array of large UUVs that could possess the ability to venture into the Indian Ocean and might carry anti submarine sensors.

India’s SSN aspiration still has a long way to go, years or maybe more than a decade, to see the first boat commissioned (not loaned). And the expansion of PLAN’s underwater and anti submarine capabilities will grow significantly during that time.
 
These indian primates can huff and puff all they want but they are useless, without any skills, and patheic liars. China can level their whole fuking country in a week, but these dirty street shitters can only lie.
Still, they need to be deterred with offensive strength, as well as an adequate defense. If they know their plans will fail, and the threat of China to them is growing, they will begrudgingly have to accept the new realty.
 
almost Non sensical!

bias overload!

i felt color blind, for a while!
@Yommie
@Oscar
@nahtanbob

Good day sir
We were discussing quality of 'poems' of different civilizations, and were finally left with Indian and Chinese poems only 👍.
The Russians reminded us with presence of their language also 🕳️

Worth mentioning, we threw English poetries like 'Shakespear' to rubbish bin .🙂
They don't have proper 'words' to say/state to common people 🕳️
 
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Technology will be king in future
Artificial intelligence
Semi conducters
Manufacturing
Internal demand
Youthful educated strong population
Not aging population

China has it all bar the last one
It's population is living longer due to new wealth and aging
SO fewer to work more to carry the state
This partial.caused japan to stagnate
I was reading china population of 1.4 billion will half this by 2075
Which is good but when looking closer one third of them will be over 65 with life expectancy getting older and burden on state

Getting the balance is key
 
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Railgun? Let's not get carried away.
 
New anti-submarine Y-9FQ
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Another threat is sea drones. There are news that taiwan is planning to get sea drones similar to Ukraines seababy drones. These are starlink controlled hard to jam sea based kamikaze drones that inflicted a high cost on Russian navy in the Black Sea. They are like what fpv drones against tanks towards naval assets. Unless some option is developed against them it is a very high risk move to start a naval operation. Jamming is partially successful and cannot be trusted as a single solution since oppenent later on develops eccms to counteract these measures making this type of solution temporary.

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Depends on superpower in what sense, in size of economy, China was indeed a superpower before the Opium War.

the history of humanity state good presence of China on earth, while the West couldn't prove civilized enough.
on the basis of changing history only, based on bluffs of publicity, the western media couldn't prove much :coffee:
 

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