Beijingwalker
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Descendants of Nepalese Gurkha invaders, not far from their village lies the cemetary of the fallen soldiers of Qing dynasty who died defending the Chinese territory against these aggressors.
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Not even one country ever recoginzed Tibet being an independent country.There are two kinds of lies, suppression veri, concealment of the truth, and suggestion falsi, the presentation of a false narrative.
This kind of half-correct information in the posts above invites a reply that may not suit the purposes of the posting.
The Qing are mentioned. When did they enter Tibet?
What was the status of Tibet before their entry?
Who were the Dzungarians?
What was their role in Tibet?
What happened to the Dzungarian? Who were the Uyghur?
Who was the Qien Long Emperor?
What was his role in Tibet?
In Xinjiang?
My suggestion is to avoid controversial topics that highlight the inconvenient past.

Your ability to shift the discussion away from awkward facts is admirable, and undoubtedly must work very well with the naive and uninformed. Full marks to you for that, and for avoiding answering a single question put to you.After the fall of Qing Dynasty in 1911 , China fell into chaos and disunity, every province became a de fecto independent state ruled by local warlords, but that didn't make them fully independent countries.
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Shifting discussion? Tibet was one of the provinces which the central government lost control after the collapse of Qing dynasty in 1911. and some" naive and uninformed" use this situation as a base to argue that Tibet was an independent country before PRC, which is untenable in front of the true history. Not even one country, east or west, recognized Tibet independence.Your ability to shift the discussion away from awkward facts is admirable, and undoubtedly must work very well with the naive and uninformed. Full marks to you for that, and for avoiding answering a single question put to you.
A visible shift in the discussion.Shifting discussion? Tibet was one of the provinces which the central government lost control after the collapse of Qing dynasty in 1911. and some" naive and uninformed" use this situation as a base to argue that Tibet was an independent country before PRC, which is untenable in front of the true history. Not even one country, east or west, recognized Tibet independence.
What is your point at all? you just vaguely said nothing. if you have an arguement, probably we can openly talk about it.A visible shift in the discussion.
If we cannot be honest about it, and use sleight of hand and obfuscation, I shall assume that you have nothing to say, in response to my questions, and merely wish to stonewall your way through an indefensible situation.
I had thought you better equipped than this, and am frankly disappointed.
Read my questions. They will give you a clear picture of what I have presented.What is your point at all? you just vaguely said nothing. if you have an arguement, probably we can openly talk about it.
Like what picture? what are you trying so hard to say exactly?Read my questions. They will give you a clear picture of what I have presented.
The answers are readily available.
Leave it.Like what picture? what are you trying so hard to say exactly?
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