Deals for 26 Rafale-M jets, three Scorpene submarines to be signed by next month: Navy Chief

Oh you think the French are corrupt? Have you tried Germany and India? 😂

What they don’t seem to understand is that India faces a powerful and complex threat in China. If Pakistan were our only concern, we wouldn’t be pushing so hard to acquire advanced aircraft.

But with China in the equation, we’re being forced to modernize the Indian Air Force—not for aggression, but for basic deterrence.

That’s why Rafale is the best option right now. When it comes to matching up against Chinese 4th-gen fighters, most independent military experts agree: Rafale outperforms them.

Yes, China is already operating 5th-gen jets and testing 6th-gen platforms. India isn’t there yet—but we need to start by securing more Rafales now, so deliveries begin within the next 3–4 years.
 
What they don’t seem to understand is that India faces a powerful and complex threat in China. If Pakistan were our only concern, we wouldn’t be pushing so hard to acquire advanced aircraft.

But with China in the equation, we’re being forced to modernize the Indian Air Force—not for aggression, but for basic deterrence.

That’s why Rafale is the best option right now. When it comes to matching up against Chinese 4th-gen fighters, most independent military experts agree: Rafale outperforms them.

Yes, China is already operating 5th-gen jets and testing 6th-gen platforms. India isn’t there yet—but we need to start by securing more Rafales now, so deliveries begin within the next 3–4 years.

Yes, in a few years you will be getting good 4th Gen jets. Rest of world will be receiving 5th Gen, and in China's case 6th gen.
 
Yes, in a few years you will be getting good 4th Gen jets. Rest of world will be receiving 5th Gen, and in China's case 6th gen.
Not to mentioned those billion hard earned dollars could have going to domestic R&D and trained their own talents, India's rival would love to see this scenario of them going for foreign off the shelf products.
 
Not to mentioned those billion hard earned dollars could have going to domestic R&D and trained their own talents, India's rival would love to see this scenario of them going for foreign off the shelf products.

Yes, France may milk them for anything between $5-6 Billion for 40 jets, and in fact good chance India may well be the last customer and receive the final jet off the line after rest of the world has moved on
 
Yes, France may milk them for anything between $5-6 Billion for 40 jets, and in fact good chance India may well be the last customer and receive the final jet off the line after rest of the world has moved on
I believed my country invested less than $5-6 billion to initiate sixth gen program till this date with two prototypes.
 
What they don’t seem to understand is that India faces a powerful and complex threat in China. If Pakistan were our only concern, we wouldn’t be pushing so hard to acquire advanced aircraft.
I agree that China is the way bigger and way more dangerous threat.

It's on a completely different level. And I don't think Pakistan even wants war anymore. Maybe Modi would be itching for a skirmish or short victory,but he probably understands that the north is where the real battle is.
 
Yes, in a few years you will be getting good 4th Gen jets. Rest of world will be receiving 5th Gen, and in China's case 6th gen.
Try to understand why country alike USA inducting latest version of F15 version and that's also 4th gen fighter..

The best answer is within your control areas as india needed to defend against Chinese fighters, regardless they flying 5th and 6th, 4 generation will be good to defence against them
 
Try to understand why country alike USA inducting latest version of F15 version and that's also 4th gen fighter..

The best answer is within your control areas as india needed to defend against Chinese fighters, regardless they flying 5th and 6th, 4 generation will be good to defence against them

Yes, only an Indian could post that I guess, well done....
 
I agree that China is the way bigger and way more dangerous threat.

It's on a completely different level. And I don't think Pakistan even wants war anymore. Maybe Modi would be itching for a skirmish or short victory,but he probably understands that the north is where the real battle is.
That depends - we have seen 1965, when Pakistans believed that they can pushed india and fight a war, but once they realised can't win by military war..... Expect kargil, nothing happened

And with china, we don't have any interest to go for war, but if they come to our belonging lands, we don't have option

But if india will have big difference on military with china, then again possible for misadventures
 
Yes, only an Indian could post that I guess, well done....
Am I saying lie?

Might most people don't understand - why still powerful nations yet inducting 4th ++ aircrafts, even when they already flying 5th gen fighters
 
These were your words on post 168

"Both the deals to be publicly announced and finalized on 12th February at 1730 GMT by Modi and Macron as per official schedule"

What happened there?

Nothing is signedm, until then no need to jump up and down.

2 extra Phalcons was "done deal"
6 new MMRT A3430s was "done deal"
New Carrier was "done deal"

This deal was "fast tracked" 17 months ago. Go figure....
 
Am I saying lie?

Might most people don't understand - why still powerful nations yet inducting 4th ++ aircrafts, even when they already flying 5th gen fighters

No, not a lie, a fantasy where your 4th Gen planes can beat Stealth fighters, but again, prior to 2019 you had fantasies too, so maybe that is not a bad thing
 
No, not a lie, a fantasy where your 4th Gen planes can beat Stealth fighters, but again, prior to 2019 you had fantasies too, so maybe that is not a bad thing
I don't live in fantasy -

Try to understand the benefits of 5th generation fighters and where are the advantages.

Only a people who does not have any knowledge can say that 5th generation fighter will dominate everywhere!

As I said - 4th++ aircrafts not going anywhere before 2050, even from USA airforce.

Because 5th generation have advantages of stealth but a lots of depends of scenarios and many things...... Even USA stealth planes was shoot down by older Soviet defence missiles - just for fyi
 

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