DeepSeek, China's AI model: News & Discussion

[BananaRepublic]

@Dalit bro,

You and all my Pakistani friends seem very proud of the achievements of your taller than mountain friends! I am sure you could have been no prouder than what you are today had Deep Seek, Huawei or such other been Pakistani achievements.

Regards

You should be proud as well, bro!

West has projected its racial superiority over all of us! It destroyed China by getting its elite hooked on drugs.

Britain literally fought wars for the right to sell drugs to China.

Imagine if Colombian drug lords did the same with US military!!!

West needs to be brought to heel so that it doesn’t project its military might beyond its borders.

Hasina must be laughing as well lol

 

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Deepseek is afraid of CCP

 

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is ti trained on the CHinese version of the world view or its open for free world? deepseek seems to be afraid of talking about CCP

 

[Mero]

china has been moving up the leaderboards in a lot of industries in recent years, these "surprises" over the past month have not come out of nowhere,
They never boast what they have till it is 100% successful....there will be a lot of surprises you would see soon. As for dethroning the dollar it's easier than done but china needs to build up her military strong enough before making any such move maybe in 10 years from now.

China has 10 years economically to surpass the US in terms of GDP, that is not an issue.

If Harris won, then China would have those 10 years for each aspect to make moves against the US. With Trump, China does not have 10 years.

Democrats are controlled opposition. The Republicans are the promoters of the US Empire. Democrats follow in obedience.

I was surprised that China did not do a massive submarine and aircraft build-up during the Biden years. China slowed their production of warships with Biden. Hopefully China vastly expands their military budget in 2025-2029.

Trump plans a bitcoin reserve soon. China does not have 10 years.

Once bitcoin backs the dollar or replaces the dollar, or a US bitcoin reserve explodes the prices... then on PDF and among the public, the focus would be on bitcoin with desperation for getting bitcoin. China going to a gold-backed yuan would mean that focus, that desire, that desperation would be to get gold and silver, further driving up the value of the gold-backed yuan. The global economy in 2008 Financial Crisis should have gone to gold and rejected dollars. Many saved the dollar then, and bitcoin was invented in 2008 after Bear Sterns collapsed to save the dollar from gold and silver prices rocketing to the moon. The resistance against the Dollar Empire had from 2008 to 2024 to go to gold. It does not have much longer, Trump wants to move to a bitcoin reserve soon.

In terms of researching technologies, China has decades. China does not have decades to defeat the most prized possession of the US - the US dollar empire. The US can lose wars - Vietnam, abandoning the War on Terror... the US does not accept the loss of their dollar empire. Thus bitcoin is there to preserve the US control over the monetary system.

 

[Beijingwalker]

is ti trained on the CHinese version of the world view or its open for free world?

This is why that DeepSeek became the top downloaded APP in Apple store, people need balanced views and are growing tired of western narratives.

And Chinese AI knows that politics are all about different prespectives and refuses to tell blatant lies like its western counterpart.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@BananaRepublic

You should be proud as well, bro!

Sure, Kola bhai. But tell me 10 years down the line when PRC overtakes USA and the West in everything:

Would we brown folks be migrating to the PRC and not the Imperialist West?
Would we be exporting more of our manufactures and services to the PRC and less to the Imperialist West?

Regards

 

[Beijingwalker]

DeepSeek to sixth-gen fighter jets: How China is shaking up the world​

DeepSeek: Donald Trump's inauguration may have taken the centerstage in the past few days, but it is China that is shaking the global landscape with groundbreaking advancements in fighter jets and artificial intelligence.​

China has shaken up the global landscape with groundbreaking advancements in jets and AI
New Delhi,UPDATED: Jan 28, 2025 13:28 IST

Written By: Abhishek De

In 1957, the Soviet Union shocked the United States and the world by successfully launching Sputnik, the first Earth-orbiting satellite. It came to be known as the "Sputnik moment" as it dawned upon the US that the Soviets had better scientists and engineers than they did. A similar 'Sputnik moment' is at play now. This time it is China that has shaken up the global landscape with groundbreaking advancements in fighter jets and artificial intelligence (AI).

Last month, China sprung a surprise by unveiling a sixth-generation stealth fighter aircraft, challenging America's longstanding aerial dominance. Weeks later, the Asian giant sent shockwaves through the US tech industry and financial markets with its low-cost AI chatbot DeepSeek - developed by a one-year-old startup.

China's rapid developments in both military and technological spheres has not gone unnoticed by the new US President, with Trump saying it should serve as a "significant wake-up call" for American businesses.

But why are investors and US tech giants in panic mode over DeepSeek? The reason is that DeepSeek has been built at a fraction of the cost required for established models like OpenAI's ChatGPT. The AI app took only $6 million to develop, much less than the billions spent by top US companies like OpenAI, Google or Meta.

Despite the low development cost, its performance is on par with industry-leading AI models. It has already become the most-downloaded app in Apple's US app store since its launch earlier this month and has surpassed ChatGPT in countries like the UK, Australia, Canada, China and Singapore.

DeepSeek's paid subscription is also more affordable at $0.50 per month, as compared to ChatGPT, whose model starts at $20 per month.

The fact that China developed such a cutting-edge AI model despite US curbs on the sale of advanced chips to the country, has sent ripples through global markets.

On Monday, Nvidia, which became the world's most valuable company last year, lost $589 billion in its market value. It was the largest one-day loss for any company on the US stock market. Not only the US, AI and semiconductor-related stocks were also affected across Asia and Europe.

The development comes at a time when Trump has made AI his priority and has promised to fund billions of dollars to develop its infrastructure. In fact, the new US President has already announced $500 billion for an AI initiative called 'Stargate'.

CHINA STEALS A MARCH ON FIGHTER JETS​

With China seemingly rocking the AI boat with DeepSeek, it caught the world off guard last month when it clandestinely tested two sixth-generation fighter jets - taking a significant leap in the arms race. Apart from AI-enhanced automation, the jets have greater payload and fly longer than the ones operational now.

In comparison, the US is likely to see its first sixth-generation fighters enter service only in the 2030s. On the other hand, India's fifth-generation jet is still at the design and development stage.

In fact, since Trump won the US polls last November, China has launched one of the world's largest amphibious warships apart from unveiling a new airborne intelligence and command platform. The string of developments are being seen as China's posturing against a possible tariff threat by the new Trump administration.

While it remains to be seen if China's groundbreaking advancements in modern warfare and AI heralds a shift in the global power balance, it has no doubt challenged the West's dominance in these fields.

 

[FHN]

China has 10 years economically to surpass the US in terms of GDP, that is not an issue.

If Harris won, then China would have those 10 years for each aspect to make moves against the US. With Trump, China does not have 10 years.

Democrats are controlled opposition. The Republicans are the promoters of the US Empire. Democrats follow in obedience.

I was surprised that China did not do a massive submarine and aircraft build-up during the Biden years. China slowed their production of warships with Biden. Hopefully China vastly expands their military budget in 2025-2029.

Trump plans a bitcoin reserve soon. China does not have 10 years.

Once bitcoin backs the dollar or replaces the dollar, or a US bitcoin reserve explodes the prices... then on PDF and among the public, the focus would be on bitcoin with desperation for getting bitcoin. China going to a gold-backed yuan would mean that focus, that desire, that desperation would be to get gold and silver, further driving up the value of the gold-backed yuan. The global economy in 2008 Financial Crisis should have gone to gold and rejected dollars. Many saved the dollar then, and bitcoin was invented in 2008 after Bear Sterns collapsed to save the dollar from gold and silver prices rocketing to the moon. The resistance against the Dollar Empire had from 2008 to 2024 to go to gold. It does not have much longer, Trump wants to move to a bitcoin reserve soon.

In terms of researching technologies, China has decades. China does not have decades to defeat the most prized possession of the US - the US dollar empire. The US can lose wars - Vietnam, abandoning the War on Terror... the US does not accept the loss of their dollar empire. Thus bitcoin is there to preserve the US control over the monetary system.

China has 10 years economically to surpass the US in terms of GDP, that is not an issue.

If Harris won, then China would have those 10 years for each aspect to make moves against the US. With Trump, China does not have 10 years.

Democrats are controlled opposition. The Republicans are the promoters of the US Empire. Democrats follow in obedience.

I was surprised that China did not do a massive submarine and aircraft build-up during the Biden years. China slowed their production of warships with Biden. Hopefully China vastly expands their military budget in 2025-2029.

Trump plans a bitcoin reserve soon. China does not have 10 years.

Once bitcoin backs the dollar or replaces the dollar, or a US bitcoin reserve explodes the prices... then on PDF and among the public, the focus would be on bitcoin with desperation for getting bitcoin. China going to a gold-backed yuan would mean that focus, that desire, that desperation would be to get gold and silver, further driving up the value of the gold-backed yuan. The global economy in 2008 Financial Crisis should have gone to gold and rejected dollars. Many saved the dollar then, and bitcoin was invented in 2008 after Bear Sterns collapsed to save the dollar from gold and silver prices rocketing to the moon. The resistance against the Dollar Empire had from 2008 to 2024 to go to gold. It does not have much longer, Trump wants to move to a bitcoin reserve soon.

In terms of researching technologies, China has decades. China does not have decades to defeat the most prized possession of the US - the US dollar empire. The US can lose wars - Vietnam, abandoning the War on Terror... the US does not accept the loss of their dollar empire. Thus bitcoin is there to preserve the US control over the monetary system.

Bitcoin is fine, but it will not replace gold.Bitcoin is not an actual physical coin, and if computers are shut down, you can’t buy or sell them. That’s why nothing will ever replace gold and silver coins themselves, and all investors should have them at home or in a safe deposit box.”

 

[BananaRepublic]

@BananaRepublic

You should be proud as well, bro!

Sure, Kola bhai. But tell me 10 years down the line when PRC overtakes USA and the West in everything:

Would we brown folks be migrating to the PRC and not the Imperialist West?
Would we be exporting more of our manufactures and services to the PRC and less to the Imperialist West?

Regards

Hopefully, people won’t be migrating. Risking their life and limbs.

It’s the west that impoverishes us and installs fundamentalist regimes that curtail our freedoms.

Which means those of us who can get out - migrate.

It’s a vicious cycle.

Imagine where Afghanistan would be if West didn’t create the Taliban?!!

We lived more prosperously than the white men till the 1600s.

It was the white men who migrated to OUR LAND.

We are not inferior!

If the west stopped interfering and doing coups - we would eventually get our shit together again!!

@UKBengali
@Joe Shearer

China will bankrupt the U.S. giving us the breathing space to get our shit together again!

 

[Mero]

Bitcoin is fine, but it will not replace gold.Bitcoin is not an actual physical coin, and if computers are shut down, you can’t buy or sell them. That’s why nothing will ever replace gold and silver coins themselves, and all investors should have them at home or in a safe deposit box.”

Bitcoin will replace gold as the 'premier store of value' asset in the next decade, Bernstein says

Bitcoin will replace gold as the 'premier store of value' asset in the next decade, Bernstein says

Bitcoin's rise to $100,000 puts it on track to replace gold as it becomes a permanent fixture of institutional portfolios, Bernstein says.

finance.yahoo.com

The US wants their technological empire: AI, superior technology in military, technology in surveillance and their technology coin (bitcoin) to replace gold.

The US knows what gold as money would do to Washington. Think of China's DeepSeek AI times one million in destroying US markets, that is gold's potential since 2008 and before. A forgetting of the dollar empire, replaced by gold and silver as money. The worst catastrophe for Washington. Trump is moving to bitcoin, so that gold has no potential to replace the US monetary system. So when China goes to gold too late, bitcoin is the focus of the markets and gold is a "has been". Gold is not yet that, though is planned to be that soon. Too soon.

You should see the American news coverage of China's DeepSeek. It puts the US in it's place and it is merely a cheap open AI.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Bitcoin will replace gold as the 'premier store of value' asset in the next decade, Bernstein says

Bitcoin will replace gold as the 'premier store of value' asset in the next decade, Bernstein says

Bitcoin's rise to $100,000 puts it on track to replace gold as it becomes a permanent fixture of institutional portfolios, Bernstein says.

finance.yahoo.com

The US wants their technological empire: AI, superior technology in military, technology in surveillance and their technology coin (bitcoin) to replace gold.

The US knows what gold as money would do to Washington. Think of China's DeepSeek AI times one million in destroying US markets, that is gold's potential since 2008 and before. A forgetting of the dollar empire, replaced by gold and silver as money. The worst catastrophe for Washington. Trump is moving to bitcoin, so that gold has no potential to replace the US monetary system. So when China goes to gold too late, bitcoin is the focus of the markets and gold is a "has been". Gold is not yet that, though is planned to be that soon. Too soon.

You should see the American news coverage of China's DeepSeek. It puts the US in it's place and it is merely a cheap open AI.

Anyone who swaps their gold for the Zionists’ new Ponzi scheme is a certifiable idiot!!

 

[FHN]

Western companies care about profit margin. Chinese companies care about market share and low cost for their customers. That's why they are odds with each other

 

[FHN]

I just found an interesting chart. If you want to do business in china u should know where to go to.

China Manufacturing Distribution Breakdown
Electronic Industry: Mainly in Guangdong (33%), the rest in Yangtze River delta, Sichuan, Shaanxi Provinces.

Textile Industry: Mainly in Zhejiang (18%) and Jiangsu (20%), the rest in Fujian, Guangdong, Shandong Provinces.

Leather & Feather: South-East Coastal areas, Hebei, Henan, Chongqing and Ningxia provinces.

Metal Product: Zhejiang, Guangdong, Jiangsu, Shandong, Hebei, Henan provinces.

Glass: More in Hebei, Jiangsu, some in Shandong and Guangdong provinces.

Ceramics: Jingdezhen in Jiangxi provinces

Furniture: Mainly in Guangdong and Hebei province, the rest in Jiangsu, Zhejiang, Shanghai, Chengdu and Beijing.

Construction: More in Shandong province, the rest in Hubei, Henan, Guangdong, Jiangsu, Beijing, Zhejiang.

Household Appliance: Guangdong, Zhejiang, Shandong provinces.

Artware & Stationary & Sporting: Zhejiang, Fujian, Guangdong, Hubei

Papermaking & Printing: Guangdong, Zhejiang, Jiangsu, Shandong, Fujian

Machinery Manufacturing: Dongbei Area, Hunan and Hubei provinces.

Petrochemical Industry: Shandong (32%), Liaoning (21%), Guangdong (15%)

Pharmaceutical Industry: Tianjin city, Xian city in Shanxi province

Food & Beverage: Liaoning, Shandong, Jiangsu, Guangdong, Fujian, Hebei, Henan, Hunan, Hubei, Inner Mongolia

Transportation Equipment:

Motor & Bicycle: Taizhou city in Zhejiang province (40%)
Shipping/Vessel: Yangtze River delta, Pearl River Delta, Bohai Bay Areas
Automobile: Mainly in Jilin, Hubei, Shanghai and Yangtze River delta, the rest in Pearl River Delta, Beijing