Egyptian Armed Forces

I saw a video of a commentator who says he’s close with people that have connections has stated that they still want the su 35s, I’m still absolutely against the f15s because like I’ve stated in the previous thread, even if amraams came with it, it wouldn’t matter because the idf has used that aircraft platform for many decades and are so accustomed to them that they will naturally be better in those eagles then our flyboys. Plus they have developed tactics specifically to counter the f15 should it get into wrong hands from their perspective. IDF knows every spare part and every in and out of that damn plane. There is no need for another operation focus scenario to happen in the future, and I seriously hope our military is well aware of this. I will continue to speak out against the f15 even tho it’s a great aircraft and up there as one of the best in its roles.
 
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Also @The SC, you gotta keep reassuring us of those meteors, pullleeaas
 
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Also @The SC, you gotta keep reassuring us of those meteors, pullleeaas

You can be assured of the METEOR coming if not already in Egypt unannounced..No way Egypt would buy 30 new Rafales without their BVR.. my guess is 200 missiles to start with for 54 Rafales.. and don't forget the MICA NG that is also contracted .. so two BVRs for the Rafale not just one..
 
You can be assured of the METEOR coming if not already in Egypt unannounced..No way Egypt would buy 30 new Rafales without their BVR.. my guess is 200 missiles to start with for 54 Rafales.. and don't forget the MICA NG that is also contracted .. so two BVRs for the Rafale not just one..
How does the mica ng perform compared to the meteor? I heard the meteor was superior, but I’ve also heard the mica ng is even better then the latest amraam
 
How does the mica ng perform compared to the meteor? I heard the meteor was superior, but I’ve also heard the mica ng is even better then the latest amraam
Current MICA missiles, available in both infrared (IR) and radio frequency (RF) variants, fall short of the expected range for modern BVRAAMs, maxing out at 80 km. While the ultra-long-range Meteor reigns supreme with its 200+ km reach, its hefty price tag makes it a costly option. MICA-NG aims to strike a balance, delivering a whopping 160 km range at a significantly lower price point.

To achieve this impressive range, MBDA is harnessing a revolutionary double-pulse rocket motor. This innovative technology provides an extra burst of energy during the final phase of the missile’s flight, boosting its maneuverability and enhancing its ability to intercept fast-moving targets at extended distances.
 
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Also @The SC, you gotta keep reassuring us of those meteors, pullleeaas

OOPS WRONG VIDEO

HERES THE ACTUAL VIDEO

LISTEN FOLKS ITS 2 am now and I’m a night owl now
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Don't trust those youtuber. They don't have real sources etc... They are biased so you will not get correct rumors etc...
 
They seem to have night vision incorporated to the helmets!

Something we've never seen before.

Makes you wonder what else are they using that we don't know about...HMDS? HMS? Someday we'll find out.

Ain’t no way the French denied meteor to Egypt.

Men bo2ak l'bab el sama y'asta. If not for the actual purpose, then for the sake of not hearing about it anymore. Because if you think about it, BVR is not really as significant as some make it out to be, especially with today's short-medium range A2A missiles like the MICA IR/EM & ER and the aircraft's + surrounding EW environment. Those are already beyond visual range missile only at the lower end of the spectrum and they have incredibly advanced speeds, seeking & guidance technology including maneuverability.

For most of the top 10 best-considered A2A missiles out there, the EAF has 3 of them and if it made a better effort to acquire the R-27E/ER and possibly the R-37M, it would have 5 of the top best A2A missiles including arguably the best & fastest & longest-range missile in the R-37M plus it has the AIM-7 Sparrow and the AIM-9L/M. That's not group of slouch missiles! And if somehow it gets the IRIS-T with the EFT, it will have 6 plus the other 4 I just mentioned. Question is of course if they get the Typhoon + IRIS-T and if Russia would supply the R-37M as it is also influenced by the zionist to a certain degree.

All that being said, I think the EAF is perfectly fine as presently constituted considering the missiles it already has, the A2A environment & ranges around Egypt to defend itself and let's not forget its electronic warfare & countermeasures environment that dictates a lot of probability of kill scenarios & successes of opponent's missiles.

Now think of adding the Meteor to this batch. It would mostly be to get rid of the stigma at this point lol.

And if we think about it, since when has there really been any conflict clashes between advanced aircraft of the same generation, i.e. 4-gen vs 4-gen or 4+ vs 4+ where any BVR kill was made at a significant distance? The only one I am aware of was the recent Pakistani F-16 firing an AIM-120C-5 against the Indian MiG-21 Bison which at the time I believe was only equipped with R-37s and despite the Indian Bison's upgrades, it's still easily a generation below the Pakistani F-16 which was a Block 52 (I think those are the only ones they have that can fire the AIM-120C-5 someone can correct me if I'm wrong about that). So there is some disparity there, but the most important thing is the range of the kill was estimated at a mere 7 - 10 kilometers. That's been a bit of a point of contention so let's say it was 15 kms. Heck let's even give them 20 kms for the kill. That's well under all of the EAF's missiles' ranges such as the MICA's which are classified, but guestimates are between 50kms - 80kms.

The only other one that is a bit disputed but we'll just go with it is the Russian R-37M supposedly fired from an Su-57 at a Ukrainian Su-27 from an alleged distance of 217km. Some say it was fired from an Su-35S but either way, there are major generation gaps between the killed aircraft and the winning one. This also gives credence to the importance of the EAF need to acquire the Su-35S to open the path to the Su-57. Now we're in limbo as far as that's concerned which frankly sucks!

So getting the Meteor to me at this point is mostly a formality. The EAF is actually in a good position currently and if the new Rafales are loaded as many expect, it'll be even better as the stigma of the BVR hoopla in the EAF will end once and for all! Enough is enough with that crap, seriously. It's tiring, right?
 
The radar issue is what made us back out of the su deal. That’s the same reason why we didn’t purchase more migs because of the pesa radar and the aesa radar not being readily available

Are you referring to the story about the EAF Rafale jamming the Su-35's IRBIS-E radar? If so, that story has been debunked as it never happened. Supposedly it was a mixup with another event separate from the EAF and not with the Su-35's radar.

I’m still absolutely against the f15s because like I’ve stated in the previous thread, even if amraams came with it, it wouldn’t matter because the idf has used that aircraft platform for many decades and are so accustomed to them that they will naturally be better in those eagles then our flyboys. Plus they have developed tactics specifically to counter the f15 should it get into wrong hands from their perspective.

And not only that, but the conditions the US sets on allowable usage of the platform. The Russians don't care one bit what anyone does with their stuff (except they don't want the destruction of the zionist entity, but that's not on Egypt's agenda anyway) so there's much more freedom with their equipment that the US allows.
 
Mmm
Something we've never seen before.

Makes you wonder what else are they using that we don't know about...HMDS? HMS? Someday we'll find out.



Men bo2ak l'bab el sama y'asta. If not for the actual purpose, then for the sake of not hearing about it anymore. Because if you think about it, BVR is not really as significant as some make it out to be, especially with today's short-medium range A2A missiles like the MICA IR/EM & ER and the aircraft's + surrounding EW environment. Those are already beyond visual range missile only at the lower end of the spectrum and they have incredibly advanced speeds, seeking & guidance technology including maneuverability.

For most of the top 10 best-considered A2A missiles out there, the EAF has 3 of them and if it made a better effort to acquire the R-27E/ER and possibly the R-37M, it would have 5 of the top best A2A missiles including arguably the best & fastest & longest-range missile in the R-37M plus it has the AIM-7 Sparrow and the AIM-9L/M. That's not group of slouch missiles! And if somehow it gets the IRIS-T with the EFT, it will have 6 plus the other 4 I just mentioned. Question is of course if they get the Typhoon + IRIS-T and if Russia would supply the R-37M as it is also influenced by the zionist to a certain degree.

All that being said, I think the EAF is perfectly fine as presently constituted considering the missiles it already has, the A2A environment & ranges around Egypt to defend itself and let's not forget its electronic warfare & countermeasures environment that dictates a lot of probability of kill scenarios & successes of opponent's missiles.

Now think of adding the Meteor to this batch. It would mostly be to get rid of the stigma at this point lol.

And if we think about it, since when has there really been any conflict clashes between advanced aircraft of the same generation, i.e. 4-gen vs 4-gen or 4+ vs 4+ where any BVR kill was made at a significant distance? The only one I am aware of was the recent Pakistani F-16 firing an AIM-120C-5 against the Indian MiG-21 Bison which at the time I believe was only equipped with R-37s and despite the Indian Bison's upgrades, it's still easily a generation below the Pakistani F-16 which was a Block 52 (I think those are the only ones they have that can fire the AIM-120C-5 someone can correct me if I'm wrong about that). So there is some disparity there, but the most important thing is the range of the kill was estimated at a mere 7 - 10 kilometers. That's been a bit of a point of contention so let's say it was 15 kms. Heck let's even give them 20 kms for the kill. That's well under all of the EAF's missiles' ranges such as the MICA's which are classified, but guestimates are between 50kms - 80kms.

The only other one that is a bit disputed but we'll just go with it is the Russian R-37M supposedly fired from an Su-57 at a Ukrainian Su-27 from an alleged distance of 217km. Some say it was fired from an Su-35S but either way, there are major generation gaps between the killed aircraft and the winning one. This also gives credence to the importance of the EAF need to acquire the Su-35S to open the path to the Su-57. Now we're in limbo as far as that's concerned which frankly sucks!

So getting the Meteor to me at this point is mostly a formality. The EAF is actually in a good position currently and if the new Rafales are loaded as many expect, it'll be even better as the stigma of the BVR hoopla in the EAF will end once and for all! Enough is enough with that crap, seriously. It's tiring, right?
the problem is that the mica ng is satisfactory for bvr combat scenarios, but not top notch, yes it’s a good missle and gets the job done reliably, however you must have all options readily available in the heap of war depending on the situation in the skies. The mig 21 f16 incident was just a skirmish and not a full blown air battle like that of Mansoura. So the whole situation can be completely different in a full blown air battle and should be ready for such cases. The f 35 is currently the stealthiest aircraft there is and even tho it’s hard to get a lock-on with stealth crafts, you still have the range and precision of arguably the best bvraam to have been made to fall back on. Qatar has them and so do India and France, it’s time for Egypt to equalize its capabilities and make it more comparable to advanced powers. Egypt more so than any other nation actually. Since they’re surrounded by Israel, Iran, Ethiopia, war torn Libya and Sudan. And I wouldn’t count turkey out completely even after normalization has begun with them again. Why do nations like Qatar need meteors??? They’re next to Iran so even if they could shoot down valuable targets they’ll just get overrun with loitering munitions and drones. Egypt has much better points to be armed to the teeth then say Kuwait or the emirates. So it’s best to capitalize on getting them fast.

Also, you mean to tell me I was believing in a fallacy with the whole radar incident? I’ve never heard anyone or any source debunk it, I don’t see the Egyptian government using the radar argument as an excuse to back away from the su 35 deal Because there have been officials who stated that they’re willing to risk sanctions for finally slicing the QME policy
 
Mmm

the problem is that the mica ng is satisfactory for bvr combat scenarios, but not top notch, yes it’s a good missle and gets the job done reliably, however you must have all options readily available in the heap of war depending on the situation in the skies. The mig 21 f16 incident was just a skirmish and not a full blown air battle like that of Mansoura. So the whole situation can be completely different in a full blown air battle and should be ready for such cases. The f 35 is currently the stealthiest aircraft there is and even tho it’s hard to get a lock-on with stealth crafts, you still have the range and precision of arguably the best bvraam to have been made to fall back on. Qatar has them and so do India and France, it’s time for Egypt to equalize its capabilities and make it more comparable to advanced powers. Egypt more so than any other nation actually. Since they’re surrounded by Israel, Iran, Ethiopia, war torn Libya and Sudan. And I wouldn’t count turkey out completely even after normalization has begun with them again. Why do nations like Qatar need meteors??? They’re next to Iran so even if they could shoot down valuable targets they’ll just get overrun with loitering munitions and drones. Egypt has much better points to be armed to the teeth then say Kuwait or the emirates. So it’s best to capitalize on getting them fast.

Also, you mean to tell me I was believing in a fallacy with the whole radar incident? I’ve never heard anyone or any source debunk it, I don’t see the Egyptian government using the radar argument as an excuse to back away from the su 35 deal Because there have been officials who stated that they’re willing to risk sanctions for finally slicing the QME policy
The Radar incident was Indian..not Egyptian.. and it was the SU-30 MKI not the SU-35 as India does not have the latter.. otherwise the incident would have happened in Egypt who has not received any SU-35 yet.. the whole thing is strange to say the least!
 
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