Ramses Akhenaten Ahmose
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This and the a330 please
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TopGun786
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So where are those leaked images supposedly showing any J-10CEs in Egypt?
Ali_Baba
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Maybe the EAF is testing the Y-20 with the Chinese with a view to procurement of the platform ?
The SC
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The Egyptian army warns Israel against prejudice to "national security"
August 2025:
Media reports reported that the Egyptian army had warned Israel against interfering in the affairs of the Egyptian "national security", according to a senior military official revealed to "Russia Today".
Major General Osama Kabir, Advisor to the College of Leaders and Staff, said that the Egyptian army was keen to deliver a "strong and clear message" for everyone, led by Israel, during the implementation of the main phase of the specialized strategic command centers exercise supervised by the Military Intelligence Authority.
The military official pointed out that the message that the Egyptian army wanted to deliver confirms that military intelligence, as one of the main pillars of the armed forces, is closely following all the plans targeting the country and setting the necessary plans to deal with them as soon as they appear.
A great talk to “Russia Today” added that this type of project is usually implemented with the participation of all the agencies and branches of the armed forces, but this is the first time that the military intelligence service is the main executing authority, considering this a message in itself to the Israeli side, especially in light of the irresponsible statements issued by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
The head of the Egyptian Military Intelligence Service affirmed the General Command of the Armed Forces to support the agency with all the technological capabilities and the required resources, in a manner that ensures the continuation of monitoring operations and the achievement of full readiness "to" immediately respond to any attack ", as well as the ability of the Egyptian armed forces to" confront high efficiency for any threat that affects Egyptian national security. "
August 2025:
Media reports reported that the Egyptian army had warned Israel against interfering in the affairs of the Egyptian "national security", according to a senior military official revealed to "Russia Today".
Major General Osama Kabir, Advisor to the College of Leaders and Staff, said that the Egyptian army was keen to deliver a "strong and clear message" for everyone, led by Israel, during the implementation of the main phase of the specialized strategic command centers exercise supervised by the Military Intelligence Authority.
The military official pointed out that the message that the Egyptian army wanted to deliver confirms that military intelligence, as one of the main pillars of the armed forces, is closely following all the plans targeting the country and setting the necessary plans to deal with them as soon as they appear.
A great talk to “Russia Today” added that this type of project is usually implemented with the participation of all the agencies and branches of the armed forces, but this is the first time that the military intelligence service is the main executing authority, considering this a message in itself to the Israeli side, especially in light of the irresponsible statements issued by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
The head of the Egyptian Military Intelligence Service affirmed the General Command of the Armed Forces to support the agency with all the technological capabilities and the required resources, in a manner that ensures the continuation of monitoring operations and the achievement of full readiness "to" immediately respond to any attack ", as well as the ability of the Egyptian armed forces to" confront high efficiency for any threat that affects Egyptian national security. "
hodor
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How do you evaluate Egypt’s early participation in the Kaan project?
Egypt is a country with very high potential, but since it is under heavy pressure, it cannot pose a threat to Israel. With Egypt’s transition to the Kaan program, it could break away from the U.S.-Israel axis. If it acts more independently, Israel would not be able to carry out such reckless massacres and genocide in Palestine and Gaza.
Egypt is a country with very high potential, but since it is under heavy pressure, it cannot pose a threat to Israel. With Egypt’s transition to the Kaan program, it could break away from the U.S.-Israel axis. If it acts more independently, Israel would not be able to carry out such reckless massacres and genocide in Palestine and Gaza.
Sami_1
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Are there contracts signed between Egypt and Turkey specifically for these Turkish aircraft? Over the past three years, they have talked about dozens of deals between Egypt and Turkey, and not a single Turkish weapon has appeared in Egypt. On the contrary, things are much simpler. The project cannot succeed without a Turkish engine or a fifth-generation technology that is mature for the Turks. This reminds us of the next Turkish tank project. In the end, the Turks invested more than a billion dollars. They paid the Koreans $550 million to purchase the design and four Korean models. Then, the engines failed and they were forced to buy the Korean engine. Then, recently, they bought Korean armor for the Turkish tank. Simply put, the Turks bought everything from the Koreans, with slight changes in the external appearance. The Chinese accusations of the Turks stealing Chinese technology via Pakistan are widespread. You can easily find Chinese sources. Here
https://defencepk.com/forums/thread...er-aircrafts-news-discussions.314/post-892813
This will hinder the Turkish project because the Chinese will block all methods of smuggling Chinese technology to the Turks.
Unlike the Chinese, they know that Egypt is pressuring them to obtain the J-35AE aircraft under favorable terms. When will Egypt buy a product that is not yet complete and the fighter has not yet entered service with the original manufacturer? Egypt does not accept the risk of an immature project. Just as it used negotiations over the Typhoon fighter to pressure the French, it is doing the same with the Chinese.
There is cooperation with the Turks on support ships, which are being developed into OPV ships and some weapons components, but so far there is no complete Turkish weapon. There is real cooperation between the two countries; all of them are cooperation contracts, but they have not yet matured. Turkish propaganda is common to attract customers, but where are the Turkish weapons that we have heard the hype about? There was a lot of talk about it, but nothing happened. If any contract had been concluded between Egypt and the Turks, the Turks would have announced it immediately as propaganda for them, and this did not happen. It is all simple matters, some ammunition, a quarter of the system components, and the Chinese win all the tenders to a large extent. For example, the ATMACA missile was crushed by the Chinese with a copy of the CM-708UNB missile, a Chinese copy with a range of 400 kilometers, and with a technical transfer. All matters depend on accepting the licenses in international tenders, not contracts that have been concluded. Therefore, the Turks announce that they will establish production lines in Egypt so that Egypt can buy Turkish weapons from them. They are also in competition with the Chinese, Russians, and Greeks in this context.
Sami_1
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Repeated Chinese accusations of technology smuggling have had consequences, including slowing down the development of Turkish projects to close the channels for Chinese technology smuggling.
Pakistan has introduced Turkish technology improvement kowtows across the line, and in order to avoid technology leakage, China has taken decisive measures.
2025-08-19 15:51
Posted in: Henan Province
In the assembly workshop of the Karachi Airlines complex, the finger of the technical director of the Turkish company ASELSAN crossed the back of the qilong fighter, and the tip of the pen fell accurately at the belly gantry interface. The data recorded in the notebook has not yet cooled down, and Beijing has arrived in Islamabad: "From now on, the delivery of all WS-13E engines will be suspended." A 90%-assembled Fanglong Block 3 fighter aircraft has suddenly stopped at the assembly line, and the balance of the two-decade military-technical alliance between China and Pakistan has tilted sharply.
I. Technical Dark Warfare: A Nuclear Bomb Detonated by the ASELPOD pod
When Pakistan integrated the Turkish ASELPOD photoelectric aiming pod into the halogen block 3, it triggered the most sensitive nerves in China. The $4 million device gives the Dragon breakthrough night combat capability, but behind it is the freedom of the Ankara technical team to access the core area of the production line. Surveillance video shows that earth engineers even directly mapped the structure of the engine compartment, causing Chinese technicians to seal the drawings.
The more dangerous signal comes from the military trade chain: traditional zealo customers such as Egypt and Azerbaijan turn to buy Turkish KAAN fighters. In exchange for earth-based technology transfer, the Pakistani side acquiesced in the access of earth engineers to the core avionics system exclusively provided by AVIC (the operation protocol of the KLJ-7A active phased array radar was even copied without authorization). When the first indigenous pods were successfully tested in Karachi, Beijing held a military-industrial safety conference overnight — an engine cut-off order issued before dawn.
Turkey's Armament Blitz
The Turkish military raids were suffocating. Baykar's drone factory production data shocked the world: the TB-2 UAV unit price pressed to $5 million, 24 countries ordered the explosion of the production line; more amazing is the KF-22 "Khan" fighter's development speed - from the first to the mass production plan only four years, compared with the same type in China and the United States shortened by 60% cycle. Its secret weapon is precisely the technical lever obtained through the dragon:
Get JF-17 pneumatic data to optimize body design
Replication of Airborne Weapon Interface Standards
Master the core process of the three-generation machine assembly process
The conditions imposed by Ankara make it difficult for Islamabad to resist: not only to provide a complete set of KAAN technology transfers, but also to establish a KF-22 regional maintenance center in Pakistan. However, when the first batch of Turkish "technical consultants" left with the box drawings, AVIC found that the anti-jamming parameters of the KLJ-7A radar had appeared in a report of a Turkish institute.
Third, the domino effect of WS-13E supply cut off
The engine is cut off like a precision scalpel:
Kamra plant 23 semi-finished foxlong shut down, Pakistan air force modernization plan paralyzed
The supply of the PL-15E missile has been halted, reducing Block 3 combat power by 40% (this air war weapon with a range of 200 kilometers was the key to counter the Indian Rafale fighter)
JF-17 PFX stealth fighter program stranded, dual-engine turbofan -19 engine introduction channel was completely locked
Islamabad's response revealed a soft technical dependence: the emergency release of the inventory of Russian-made RD-93 engines, but due to the matching problem caused the maximum speed of the aircraft plummeted by 15%. Defense Minister Asif ranted in Parliament: "Without the support of China's core components, we will not even maintain the existing fleet!" At this time, Turkey took the opportunity to sell the domestic TF6000 engine scheme, but the technical verification took at least five years - time became the most unaffordable resource for the Pakistani side.
IV. Life and Death Breakthrough in the Arms Market
As Turkish drones swept across the Middle East (TB-2 destroyed $800 million worth of armored units in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict), Chinese military workers showed three sharp swords:
Turbofan -19 engine completes extreme cold test in the plateau, with a thrust of 11.5 tons beyond the US F414
J-35 carrier-based aircraft land-based version won Saudi Arabia's intention order of 10 billion, with ten years of maintenance of avionics system
UAV bee swarm technology to achieve 200 grouping coordination, staged in the northwest shooting range "ten minutes to flood the entire armored brigade" live demonstration
More deadly killing is the innovation of the military trade model. AVIC's "Production Line + Technical Authorization" scheme (including the localization of Perak-10E missiles) proposed to Egypt directly cut off the Turkish bid. While Ankara celebrated the order for 48 KF-22s in Indonesia, the sixth-generation demonstrator using intelligent skinning materials in the wind tunnel of the Chengdu Aircraft Research Institute was breaking through seven times the speed of sound.
Workers at Pakistan's Kamla plant were sitting next to the Shukyu-Leng, with the Turkish pod under the wing still empty. This fragmentation is like the epitome of contemporary military cooperation, when Turkey took surveying and mapping data to accelerate the construction of the KF-22 production line, the digital model of China's sixth-generation machine has been iterated in the supercomputing center to the 17th edition.
The decision to cut off the supply of WS-13E is like a precision surgical procedure, preserving the lesions while preserving the two decades of technical cooperation framework. The law of global military history has never changed:With technical handling, it will never be able to build a top fighter, and there is often a real jump window behind the blockade line.. . When the J-35 prototype tore the sound barrier over the northwest Gobi, the roar of the turbofan is writing an entry prelude for a new generation of sky overlords
https://www.sohu.com/a/925627515_12...m=smpc.content.fd-link.5.1755766154555vWmZkHu
Therefore, it is naive for someone to wait for the completion of the development of stolen technologies and the real inability to produce the technology on their own, which makes closing the windows for smuggling technology stop the projects from being completed.
As long as Egypt has the original source of technology, why is it a result of thieves?
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hodor
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So, are you saying that the Turks are stealing technology from China? This is the first time I have heard such a claim. Turkey is a NATO member and has been one of the United States’ most important subcontractors for 70 years. The UAV engines we produce are more efficient and more advanced than their Chinese counterparts. The radars and avionics developed by Aselsan are fully indigenous, and testing is still ongoing.Repeated Chinese accusations of technology smuggling have had consequences, including slowing down the development of Turkish projects to close the channels for Chinese technology smuggling.
Pakistan has introduced Turkish technology improvement kowtows across the line, and in order to avoid technology leakage, China has taken decisive measures.
2025-08-19 15:51
Posted in: Henan Province
In the assembly workshop of the Karachi Airlines complex, the finger of the technical director of the Turkish company ASELSAN crossed the back of the qilong fighter, and the tip of the pen fell accurately at the belly gantry interface. The data recorded in the notebook has not yet cooled down, and Beijing has arrived in Islamabad: "From now on, the delivery of all WS-13E engines will be suspended." A 90%-assembled Fanglong Block 3 fighter aircraft has suddenly stopped at the assembly line, and the balance of the two-decade military-technical alliance between China and Pakistan has tilted sharply.
I. Technical Dark Warfare: A Nuclear Bomb Detonated by the ASELPOD pod
When Pakistan integrated the Turkish ASELPOD photoelectric aiming pod into the halogen block 3, it triggered the most sensitive nerves in China. The $4 million device gives the Dragon breakthrough night combat capability, but behind it is the freedom of the Ankara technical team to access the core area of the production line. Surveillance video shows that earth engineers even directly mapped the structure of the engine compartment, causing Chinese technicians to seal the drawings.
The more dangerous signal comes from the military trade chain: traditional zealo customers such as Egypt and Azerbaijan turn to buy Turkish KAAN fighters. In exchange for earth-based technology transfer, the Pakistani side acquiesced in the access of earth engineers to the core avionics system exclusively provided by AVIC (the operation protocol of the KLJ-7A active phased array radar was even copied without authorization). When the first indigenous pods were successfully tested in Karachi, Beijing held a military-industrial safety conference overnight — an engine cut-off order issued before dawn.
Turkey's Armament Blitz
The Turkish military raids were suffocating. Baykar's drone factory production data shocked the world: the TB-2 UAV unit price pressed to $5 million, 24 countries ordered the explosion of the production line; more amazing is the KF-22 "Khan" fighter's development speed - from the first to the mass production plan only four years, compared with the same type in China and the United States shortened by 60% cycle. Its secret weapon is precisely the technical lever obtained through the dragon:
Get JF-17 pneumatic data to optimize body design
Replication of Airborne Weapon Interface Standards
Master the core process of the three-generation machine assembly process
The conditions imposed by Ankara make it difficult for Islamabad to resist: not only to provide a complete set of KAAN technology transfers, but also to establish a KF-22 regional maintenance center in Pakistan. However, when the first batch of Turkish "technical consultants" left with the box drawings, AVIC found that the anti-jamming parameters of the KLJ-7A radar had appeared in a report of a Turkish institute.
Third, the domino effect of WS-13E supply cut off
The engine is cut off like a precision scalpel:
Kamra plant 23 semi-finished foxlong shut down, Pakistan air force modernization plan paralyzed
The supply of the PL-15E missile has been halted, reducing Block 3 combat power by 40% (this air war weapon with a range of 200 kilometers was the key to counter the Indian Rafale fighter)
JF-17 PFX stealth fighter program stranded, dual-engine turbofan -19 engine introduction channel was completely locked
Islamabad's response revealed a soft technical dependence: the emergency release of the inventory of Russian-made RD-93 engines, but due to the matching problem caused the maximum speed of the aircraft plummeted by 15%. Defense Minister Asif ranted in Parliament: "Without the support of China's core components, we will not even maintain the existing fleet!" At this time, Turkey took the opportunity to sell the domestic TF6000 engine scheme, but the technical verification took at least five years - time became the most unaffordable resource for the Pakistani side.
IV. Life and Death Breakthrough in the Arms Market
As Turkish drones swept across the Middle East (TB-2 destroyed $800 million worth of armored units in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict), Chinese military workers showed three sharp swords:
Turbofan -19 engine completes extreme cold test in the plateau, with a thrust of 11.5 tons beyond the US F414
J-35 carrier-based aircraft land-based version won Saudi Arabia's intention order of 10 billion, with ten years of maintenance of avionics system
UAV bee swarm technology to achieve 200 grouping coordination, staged in the northwest shooting range "ten minutes to flood the entire armored brigade" live demonstration
More deadly killing is the innovation of the military trade model. AVIC's "Production Line + Technical Authorization" scheme (including the localization of Perak-10E missiles) proposed to Egypt directly cut off the Turkish bid. While Ankara celebrated the order for 48 KF-22s in Indonesia, the sixth-generation demonstrator using intelligent skinning materials in the wind tunnel of the Chengdu Aircraft Research Institute was breaking through seven times the speed of sound.
Workers at Pakistan's Kamla plant were sitting next to the Shukyu-Leng, with the Turkish pod under the wing still empty. This fragmentation is like the epitome of contemporary military cooperation, when Turkey took surveying and mapping data to accelerate the construction of the KF-22 production line, the digital model of China's sixth-generation machine has been iterated in the supercomputing center to the 17th edition.
The decision to cut off the supply of WS-13E is like a precision surgical procedure, preserving the lesions while preserving the two decades of technical cooperation framework. The law of global military history has never changed:With technical handling, it will never be able to build a top fighter, and there is often a real jump window behind the blockade line.. . When the J-35 prototype tore the sound barrier over the northwest Gobi, the roar of the turbofan is writing an entry prelude for a new generation of sky overlords
https://www.sohu.com/a/925627515_12...m=smpc.content.fd-link.5.1755766154555vWmZkHu
Therefore, it is naive for someone to wait for the completion of the development of stolen technologies and the real inability to produce the technology on their own, which makes closing the windows for smuggling technology stop the projects from being completed.
As long as Egypt has the original source of technology, why is it a result of thieves?
The issue of engines involves technologies that countries never share with each other. The single-crystal turbine blade is the most sensitive of all. Even the closest allies in the world do not transfer this technology.
The Altay tank was initially planned with the technology transfer of the South Korean K2 Black Panther and the German MTU engine. However, when Germany refused to provide the engine, production could not begin. Now, production is starting with the first 80 units powered by a Korean engine, while the remaining units will be produced with the Turkish Batu engine.
In the field of unmanned aerial vehicles, we are the global leader in terms of cost-effectiveness. We are able to manufacture UAVs that are much better than the Chinese ones at much lower costs. Israeli and American UAVs are far more expensive. In the next generation of UAVs, we are also at the forefront. Kızılelma will be the only one of its kind in the world.
We have sold the Hürjet to Spain and the Kaan to Indonesia. More deals will follow. Within the next ten years, we will sell the Kaan to at least five countries and the Hürjet to ten countries. The Hürjet is powered by the American F404 engine, but the Kaan will use an indigenous engine in the 2030s.
Ramses Akhenaten Ahmose
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I’m actually siked that Egypt and turkey are partnering up on the kaan project since it brings 2 powerful Muslim countries together while respecting each others boundaries. Personally getting the knowledge of manufacture and maintenance of a 5th gen platform is better then just seemingly buying it immediately like the saudis and the Indonesians so to conduct inspection and quality damage control to insure the function of the aircraft. We don’t want scenarios where entire fleets are grounded because of faulty sensitive components not being manufactured properly or just plain lower quality then expected, that’s why Japanese f35s were grounded when one crashed back in 2019. No need for scenarios like that when 5th gen stealth crafts are expected to be on full readiness at any given moment
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