Egyptian EJun 30 SW, Akinci and the relationship with the United Arab Emirates

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We start the topic with an explanatory article, then we discuss the current situation.

Egyptian EJun 30 SW, Akinci and the relationship with the United Arab Emirates


Savvas Vlassis26/12/2021






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From Savvas D. Vlassis


During the EDEX 2021 exhibition in Cairo between November 29 – December 2, the Egyptian Armed Forces unveiled the EJun 30 SW, a UAV built by Industrial Complex Engineering Robots in collaboration with the Egyptian Ministry of Military Production. The EJun 30 SW bears a striking resemblance to the Yabhon Flash-20 (and not the Yabhon United 40 that most foreign sources reported) a UAV developed by Adcom Systems, a United Arab Emirates company, primarily for the UAE Air Force. Therefore, the EJun 30 SW was considered the Egyptian version of the Yabhon Flash-20.


The Yabhon Flash-20 has appeared in versions A and B, with a length of 8.9 meters and wingspan of 12 and 18 meters respectively. Maximum take-off weight is respectively 1,450 and 1,650 kg, maximum payload 300 and 460 kg, fuel weight in wing tanks is 650 and 800 kg. In terms of performance of the A and B versions, the maximum speed is 130 and 125 knots respectively, the autonomy with maximum load is 22 and 24 hours while the operational ceiling is 26,000 feet for both versions.


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The larger Yabhon United 40 appeared as a scale model in 2007 and was presented in prototype form at the 2013 Dubai Air Show. It belongs to the Medium Altitude Long Range (MALE) category with a maximum flight altitude of 7,010 meters, speed between 75-220 kph. and flight range of 120 hours (5 days). The aircraft carries 4 underwing cargo carriers, with a payload of 1,050 kg. In open sources, the UAV is reported to carry two Rotax 914UL four-cylinder turbocharged engines of 114 hp each, but the chief designer of Adcom Systems had mentioned during the initial appearance of the Yabhon United 40 that there is a 115 hp main engine and an 80 hp electric motor. Open sources say the aircraft has synthetic imaging radar (SAR) and terrain avoidance systems in addition to the electro-optical sensor, but the configuration in Egyptian service is unknown.


The general design line of the Yabhon family, mainly in the fuselage of the so-called “S” configuration, is very reminiscent of the heavy armed Akinci-type UAV developed by the Turkish Baykar. There are of course differences, such as the lack of tail main wings, the "split" main wing and the two 450 hp AI-450C turboprop engines. With a length of 12.3 meters, a wingspan of 20 meters, a maximum take-off weight of 5,500 kg and a payload of 1,350 kg (450+ internal, 900 kg external) it is clear that the Akinci is a larger design.


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As the resemblance is no coincidence, it can be safely assumed that Akinci is a co-development between Adcom Systems and Baykar, the latter having acquired an exclusive partnership design to adapt it to domestic needs and to NATO standards. This is common practice internationally, after the collapse of the Warsaw Pact and the evolution of globalization that favors the movement of people. As product designs from companies or design offices cannot always be absorbed by the domestic market of their country, it is common practice for commercial cooperation agreements to sell designs to foreign companies that do not want to enter into a process of "reinventing the wheel" but to add a new product to their wallet within a reasonable period of time.


Turkey's Baykar, founded in 1984, was an engineering company producing engines, pumps and spare parts for vehicles, which only made an opening in the UAV sector in the 2000s. Ozdemir Bayraktar, the owner of the company, with previous involvement in weapons programs and close relations with the Turkish armed forces, turned his interest in the field of UAVs in 2004. Seljuk's son, in 2005, publicly called on government officials to invest in UAV technologies, stating that within five years the country could be a world leader in the field. The call was "embraced", because in Turkey there is a specific central policy for the development of the domestic defense industry and certainly state funding was allocated to support the relevant development programs.



With the financial issue resolved, such an opening and the appearance of products in a reasonable period of time by a company unrelated to the space, can only face the technological challenge through cooperation. Collaborating with a foreign house, or at least hiring a group of foreign engineers who could offer some UAV design, was a natural solution.


Adcom Systems is a group of more than 20 private companies, based in the UAE, that started producing the first UAVs in 2002. The company had started its activity with the development of missiles and then radar systems. Today it has introduced the Yabhon series, including HALE and MALE class versions while the Yabhon NSR is said to be the world's first UAV capable of shooting down other UAVs. As the company also produces air weapons, it can offer a complete armed UAV.


Adcom Systems' entry into the field of heavily armed UAVs began with a political decision, after the US refused to sell the MQ-9 Reaper to the UAE. Turkey had the same motivation, which literally "out of nowhere", Baykar displayed the successful Bayraktar TB2, which was subsequently developed into the armed version TB2S and today has presented the Akinci.


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As reported by Adcom Systems, the management is carried out by a multinational group while more than 600 employees are employed. This is a typical case of attracting foreign scientific personnel who responded to the official "call" of the UAE government, when years ago it decided to develop a domestic defense industry. Quite simply, to compensate for the problem of the lack of experienced personnel in the field, the UAE hired experienced mechanical engineers and scientific personnel of all specialties at very attractive salaries. In this way, notable companies were developed in various sectors in the UAE, which were able to develop products of all kinds (portable weapons, vehicles, missiles, UAVs) in a very short time.


Since 2013, Adcom Systems has already been advertising the international interest in its UAVs. Its head had reported at the time that even Russia had expressed interest, as more than 10 countries had expressed interest and the company had made several demonstrations. Very likely Turkey and Baykar was one of them. The "internationalization" of its products began with the Belar YS-EX, a version of the Yabhon Flash-20, presented in 2017 by KB Indela from Belarus. Founded in 1996 in Minsk and active in the field of UAVs, the company was acquired in 2013 by Adcom Systems and sought to penetrate the Russian market. The interest shown by Russia in the Yabhon United 40 does not seem to have been a coincidence, as was the offer of various designs in the following years by KB Indela.


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Egypt, presenting the EJun 30 SW, has probably chosen to work with Adcom Systems to make its own forays into the field. Turkey, it seems, took the lead and thanks to earlier cooperation, chose a more sophisticated and higher performance design.


The UAE maintained good relations with Turkey but after the failed coup in July 2016, Erdogan directly accused the UAE crown prince as one of the instigators, calling him " Turkey's worst enemy ". Since then, bilateral relations have further deteriorated in 2017, when the UAE and Saudi Arabia boycotted Qatar, a close ally of Ankara. However, this does not necessarily mean that any cooperation on a business level, such as a possible cooperation between Adcom Systems and Baykar, is stopped.



Chronologically, from what is known from open sources, the development and manufacture of armed HALE-class UAVs was expressed in Turkey in early 2016. Baykar, is reported to have started work at Akinci in May 2017 and on January 31, 2018, its proposal was selected. in June 2018 a contract was awarded and a year later, in June 2019, the preliminary design phase was completed and on December 6, 2019 the first flight took place. On August 29, 2021, Akinci's handover ceremony to the Turkish armed forces took place.


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The emergence of Turkey as a world leading force in the field of UAVs resulted from the central government policy of developing domestic defense production, the financing of related development programs and, in the case of Baykar, the cooperation with an experienced foreign house that undertook the co-development based on an existing plan that modified according to Turkish needs.




In Greece, none of the above exists, which is why to date there is no final product of operational value in the field of UAVs.
 
We start the topic with an explanatory article, then we discuss the current situation.

Egyptian EJun 30 SW, Akinci and the relationship with the United Arab Emirates


Savvas Vlassis26/12/2021






FFuQL_gWQAQfDlu-780x470.jpg


From Savvas D. Vlassis


During the EDEX 2021 exhibition in Cairo between November 29 – December 2, the Egyptian Armed Forces unveiled the EJun 30 SW, a UAV built by Industrial Complex Engineering Robots in collaboration with the Egyptian Ministry of Military Production. The EJun 30 SW bears a striking resemblance to the Yabhon Flash-20 (and not the Yabhon United 40 that most foreign sources reported) a UAV developed by Adcom Systems, a United Arab Emirates company, primarily for the UAE Air Force. Therefore, the EJun 30 SW was considered the Egyptian version of the Yabhon Flash-20.


The Yabhon Flash-20 has appeared in versions A and B, with a length of 8.9 meters and wingspan of 12 and 18 meters respectively. Maximum take-off weight is respectively 1,450 and 1,650 kg, maximum payload 300 and 460 kg, fuel weight in wing tanks is 650 and 800 kg. In terms of performance of the A and B versions, the maximum speed is 130 and 125 knots respectively, the autonomy with maximum load is 22 and 24 hours while the operational ceiling is 26,000 feet for both versions.


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The larger Yabhon United 40 appeared as a scale model in 2007 and was presented in prototype form at the 2013 Dubai Air Show. It belongs to the Medium Altitude Long Range (MALE) category with a maximum flight altitude of 7,010 meters, speed between 75-220 kph. and flight range of 120 hours (5 days). The aircraft carries 4 underwing cargo carriers, with a payload of 1,050 kg. In open sources, the UAV is reported to carry two Rotax 914UL four-cylinder turbocharged engines of 114 hp each, but the chief designer of Adcom Systems had mentioned during the initial appearance of the Yabhon United 40 that there is a 115 hp main engine and an 80 hp electric motor. Open sources say the aircraft has synthetic imaging radar (SAR) and terrain avoidance systems in addition to the electro-optical sensor, but the configuration in Egyptian service is unknown.


The general design line of the Yabhon family, mainly in the fuselage of the so-called “S” configuration, is very reminiscent of the heavy armed Akinci-type UAV developed by the Turkish Baykar. There are of course differences, such as the lack of tail main wings, the "split" main wing and the two 450 hp AI-450C turboprop engines. With a length of 12.3 meters, a wingspan of 20 meters, a maximum take-off weight of 5,500 kg and a payload of 1,350 kg (450+ internal, 900 kg external) it is clear that the Akinci is a larger design.


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As the resemblance is no coincidence, it can be safely assumed that Akinci is a co-development between Adcom Systems and Baykar, the latter having acquired an exclusive partnership design to adapt it to domestic needs and to NATO standards. This is common practice internationally, after the collapse of the Warsaw Pact and the evolution of globalization that favors the movement of people. As product designs from companies or design offices cannot always be absorbed by the domestic market of their country, it is common practice for commercial cooperation agreements to sell designs to foreign companies that do not want to enter into a process of "reinventing the wheel" but to add a new product to their wallet within a reasonable period of time.


Turkey's Baykar, founded in 1984, was an engineering company producing engines, pumps and spare parts for vehicles, which only made an opening in the UAV sector in the 2000s. Ozdemir Bayraktar, the owner of the company, with previous involvement in weapons programs and close relations with the Turkish armed forces, turned his interest in the field of UAVs in 2004. Seljuk's son, in 2005, publicly called on government officials to invest in UAV technologies, stating that within five years the country could be a world leader in the field. The call was "embraced", because in Turkey there is a specific central policy for the development of the domestic defense industry and certainly state funding was allocated to support the relevant development programs.



With the financial issue resolved, such an opening and the appearance of products in a reasonable period of time by a company unrelated to the space, can only face the technological challenge through cooperation. Collaborating with a foreign house, or at least hiring a group of foreign engineers who could offer some UAV design, was a natural solution.


Adcom Systems is a group of more than 20 private companies, based in the UAE, that started producing the first UAVs in 2002. The company had started its activity with the development of missiles and then radar systems. Today it has introduced the Yabhon series, including HALE and MALE class versions while the Yabhon NSR is said to be the world's first UAV capable of shooting down other UAVs. As the company also produces air weapons, it can offer a complete armed UAV.


Adcom Systems' entry into the field of heavily armed UAVs began with a political decision, after the US refused to sell the MQ-9 Reaper to the UAE. Turkey had the same motivation, which literally "out of nowhere", Baykar displayed the successful Bayraktar TB2, which was subsequently developed into the armed version TB2S and today has presented the Akinci.


E4ldbbJWEAA3VCT-1024x681.jpg



As reported by Adcom Systems, the management is carried out by a multinational group while more than 600 employees are employed. This is a typical case of attracting foreign scientific personnel who responded to the official "call" of the UAE government, when years ago it decided to develop a domestic defense industry. Quite simply, to compensate for the problem of the lack of experienced personnel in the field, the UAE hired experienced mechanical engineers and scientific personnel of all specialties at very attractive salaries. In this way, notable companies were developed in various sectors in the UAE, which were able to develop products of all kinds (portable weapons, vehicles, missiles, UAVs) in a very short time.


Since 2013, Adcom Systems has already been advertising the international interest in its UAVs. Its head had reported at the time that even Russia had expressed interest, as more than 10 countries had expressed interest and the company had made several demonstrations. Very likely Turkey and Baykar was one of them. The "internationalization" of its products began with the Belar YS-EX, a version of the Yabhon Flash-20, presented in 2017 by KB Indela from Belarus. Founded in 1996 in Minsk and active in the field of UAVs, the company was acquired in 2013 by Adcom Systems and sought to penetrate the Russian market. The interest shown by Russia in the Yabhon United 40 does not seem to have been a coincidence, as was the offer of various designs in the following years by KB Indela.


Belarus-Belar-YS-Ex-drone-1024x788.jpg



Egypt, presenting the EJun 30 SW, has probably chosen to work with Adcom Systems to make its own forays into the field. Turkey, it seems, took the lead and thanks to earlier cooperation, chose a more sophisticated and higher performance design.


The UAE maintained good relations with Turkey but after the failed coup in July 2016, Erdogan directly accused the UAE crown prince as one of the instigators, calling him " Turkey's worst enemy ". Since then, bilateral relations have further deteriorated in 2017, when the UAE and Saudi Arabia boycotted Qatar, a close ally of Ankara. However, this does not necessarily mean that any cooperation on a business level, such as a possible cooperation between Adcom Systems and Baykar, is stopped.



Chronologically, from what is known from open sources, the development and manufacture of armed HALE-class UAVs was expressed in Turkey in early 2016. Baykar, is reported to have started work at Akinci in May 2017 and on January 31, 2018, its proposal was selected. in June 2018 a contract was awarded and a year later, in June 2019, the preliminary design phase was completed and on December 6, 2019 the first flight took place. On August 29, 2021, Akinci's handover ceremony to the Turkish armed forces took place.


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The emergence of Turkey as a world leading force in the field of UAVs resulted from the central government policy of developing domestic defense production, the financing of related development programs and, in the case of Baykar, the cooperation with an experienced foreign house that undertook the co-development based on an existing plan that modified according to Turkish needs.




In Greece, none of the above exists, which is why to date there is no final product of operational value in the field of UAVs.
according to article AKINCI is a derivative of YABOON but where is the source source? should be writers ass huh?
 
UAE=bought or marketed western tech, they do not have base for any weapon development and production and as country they are heavily compromised in region, they create chaos wherever they meddle, their aspiration to be Venice of Middle East is not commendable.
 
a failed project still trying to do something with it :ROFLMAO:, as i remember it algerians did try something with it. Better kill the project and start with a new design.
 
Egyptian EJun 30 SW,
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The announced export deals have allowed only two countries and much more to diversify the equipment for the aircraft from reconnaissance and jamming warehouses


It is believed to be an Egyptian-Belarusian cooperation more than an Emirati one. The ADCOM company has actually disappeared and no longer exists.

The Egyptian version that appeared in 2021 was more mature and developed than the Belarusian version, whether in operational capability, landing, or equipment.
The Egyptian weapons specifications have always been announced for the entire equipment of the aircraft, i.e. EO includes improved landing systems and the initial standard load, but not the production.
The Egyptian version has already been exported to Algeria and Nigeria, and Algeria is assembling it locally.

The engine is manufactured locally with technical assistance from Russia, and the Rotax 914UL engine was replaced with a local engine with a capacity of 145 horsepower, which led to doubling the load later and also providing higher capabilities for the aircraft, even over the Emirati version Yabhon United 40

After the success of local production and export since 2019, Egypt offered the developed version of it by increasing the aircraft's capacity 1.5 times, which is called Under naaame of 6 OCT' UAV

6th of October Drone

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Philosophy for production using a gasoline engine with a total capacity of 2 engines 290 horsepower
The advantage of using car fuel in the aircraft is its availability in armies easily than any fuel designated for aircraft, which makes the aircraft preferred for wide use because of this feature as

The engines provide the aircraft with sufficient propulsion capacity for takeoff and the long wings provide the aircraft with a lifespan of more than 30 hours, as this number is considered less than the actual capacity of the aircraft The aircraft is characterized by a higher fuel load
Increasing the weight of the aircraft to 2300 kilograms instead of 1400 in the previous version EJUNE-30
The load for ammunition is 720 kilograms
And the total load for fuel and ammunition is 1500 kilograms
The swollen aircraft body is related to providing a large volume of fuel to provide the aircraft with a long lifespan
Hardpoints 13
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Egypt provided one of the typical ammunition for the aircraft with two types of missiles that showed the possibility of carrying 18 mixed missiles with ranges of 30-80 km, which is a large payload for this class of aircraft and also has a long lifespan.

The aircraft is also equipped with additional fuel tanks and satellite communication links.

The aircraft can also carry a number of Kamikaze Drones.

Providing ammunition with a range of 50 miles for the aircraft to reduce its targeting ability to ensure that it carries out many sorties.

The company that produces the drones continues to use ARGOS systems, such as providing them with the ARGOS-II HDT & ARGOS-8 Compact airborne electro-optical device, which it produces under license from the German company HENSOLDT.
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To provide ISR and ISTAR as a first stage, in addition to Egypt manufacturing ARGOS-8 locally under license to integrate it into many Egyptian platforms from drones, including the 6th of October drone, to ensure the best available performance. The Germans gave licenses for local production offsets for deals executed by Egypt for air defense systems. ARGOS systems are used in units The vision is to look at the Egyptian air defense as a development for it, which makes the Egyptians unify the engine in 3 types of aircraft AHMOS EJUNE-30SE AND 6 OCT' UAV
What makes the production of 500 engines annually for these aircraft more economical in operation than importing ROTAX engines, which America restricts their export from Austria to countries
What Egypt puts in international exhibitions of equipment and ammunition is what is intended to be marketed and not the current situation, as Egyptian research is developing more than 28 models of drones actually, so what may be produced from these models may exceed 8 aircraft actually
Egyptian imports of Chinese aircraft are the minimum to meet their rapid needs, but not all the needs, and thus Egypt moved from MALE categories to Chinese HALE categories, and even the Turks are offering their aircraft from this category, which has not been agreed upon yet, to the temptations of success in exporting aircraft, as there are requests from many African countries for Egyptian aircraft because they are less expensive to purchase and less expensive to operate due to the widespread fuel and oils Everywhere also the simplicity of operation of these aircraft makes countries expand their selection in quantities, as countries such as Algeria produce a local version in increasing quantities despite what they bought from China and Turkey. Also, Egypt provides ammunition at a low price and a long range for the aircraft to protect it from SHORAD air defense systems by targeting it from ranges of 30-80 kilometers, in addition to the fact that it carries 18 missiles and ammunition pieces. This makes export funds go to newer and higher performance versions with the same design idea. The aircraft is also equipped with Serbian bombs that are produced locally in Egypt, model PGB-128 (Precision Gliding Bomb)
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It also has a relationship with the GPK122 projectile
In addition to the 155 LR GPK ammunition, which we previously explained its relationship to Serbian products to provide products quickly and at a low cost and to spread them widely

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Oman Bahrin kuwait and some ask egyptian compamy for more detail about oct and ahmos UAV
 
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From drawing to productionThe first name given to the aircraft was THEBES-30 then changed to AHMOS
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The aircraft relies on the same engine with the same performance capacity of 145 hp, which is considered an advantage for the aircraft to operate for those who own the older versions that use the same engine EJUNE-30SW/6OCT' UAVS, as the maintenance of the low-cost engine that uses car fuel is widespread everywhere, as the aircraft is smaller, maintaining acceptable capabilities and also for the low price and the same EO ARGOS-8
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Maximum take-off weight 1200 kg
Payload 270-300 kg slightly improved from the design after experiments
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HARD POINT 5
Uses the same ammunition package used by the previous aircraft
This aircraft is widely used because it provides speed of production and low cost, as well as the wide demand for it from African countries to target terrorist elements that possess kinetic platforms such as Toyota Land Cruiser vehicles, thus expanding the deployment of small and short-range ammunition
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Arab Countries should work with Turkiye to get the best UCAVs and Unmanned stealth Fighter Jets in the World


Smart S.Arabia buys 60 AKINCI UCAVs for $3,1 billion


USA , Europe , Russia can not provide these high technologies to Arab Countries

And Egypt can not develop strategic strike UCAV with AESA radar , long range guided munitions , cruise missiles and air to air missiles


AKINCI UCAV carry long range guided munitions , cruise missiles , air to air missiles and equiped with AESA Radar

-- 25+ km MAM-L IIR guided munition
-- 30 km MAM-T guided munition
-- 50+ km MAM-T IIR guided munition
-- 80 km TOLUN-IIR guided munition
-- 150+ km IHA-230 supersonic Missile
-- 150+ km CAKIR cruise Missile
-- 180+ km KUZGUN-TJ Missile
-- 280 km SOM cruise Missile

Also 100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air Missile

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KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 Unmanned stealth Fighter Jets

-- Stealth technology
-- Advanced sensor fusion with AESA Radar , EOTS and IRST
-- Internal weapon bays for stealth flight capability
-- AI supported high-capacity networking
-- SATCOM
-- Increased range stand-off and BVR Missiles
-- Full data-to-decision (D2D) capability to operate together with manned and unmanned stealth Fighter Jets

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100 Turkish TB-3 , AKINCI , KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 would wipe out enemy Naval fleet in the Eastern Mediterranean ....... even French Navy can not match with this power
 
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WING LOONG 1 & H12 AMSTONE INTERNATIONAL GROUP SHOW ROOM IN EGYPTIAN AIR SHOW

Initially, the category of the Egyptian aircraft on display is the MALE category. The Turkish HALE aircraft cannot be compared to the Egyptian aircraft, which provides a distinction in payload over all MALE category aircraft.Secondly, since there is negotiation on the Kızılelma & AKINCI aircraft, and the Turks announced that they may invest in production in Egypt, like the Russians in establishing foreign investment companies in Egypt to export the weapons produced and the African countries, there may be cooperation.What was announced about Egyptian ammunition is a sample, as Egypt is working on developing 28 drones of different categories.Therefore, the announced ammunition is simply limited, and the Egyptian ammunition is distinguished by a range of 80 kilometers and a weight of 60 kilograms, such as the 155 LR GPK and even the 122 GPK ammunition with a range of 30-40 kilometers and a weight of 30 kilograms, which shows that Egypt has what is distinctive and meets its requests and even exports at a competitive price.
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For example, since the nineties, Egypt has been producing parts of the Hellfire missile within the production chains for America within the AH-64 aircraft offset, before Egypt purchased 3,000 complete HELFIRE missiles from the United States. In other words, what is announced about ammunition is not everything. On the contrary, there are advanced ammunition that have not been announced, such as a cruise missile with a 130-kilogram destroyer head with a range of 240 kilometers. The cost of Egyptian ammunition is equivalent to 40% of the price of any Turkish ammunition, which is an obstacle to export. Therefore, the Turks propose that Egypt produce ammunition under license and for export from Egypt due to the low cost of production in Egypt compared to Turkey.
So the Turks themselves want to produce for Egypt some products for the lower cost of production and the availability of energy.
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EDGE WILL PRODUCE LOITERING MUNITION IN EGYPT

One of the sources of indirect Egyptian technology transfer is the purchase of weapons from the Emirates, China and Serbia, then re-producing new weapons derived from them without investing huge amounts of money in research and development, given that Egypt targets the local market and the threats to Egyptian national security make it not depend on imports during wartime.With a policy of producing a product with components from several different products, then merging and redeveloping the sub-components later to provide higher specifications gradually.
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AIG PRODUCE ASN-301 LOCALLY
Thirdly, many products are produced by reverse engineering after development or with full technology transfer licenses and an acceptable cost. When we introduced the new Egyptian ammunition, it is not only distinguished by its range and small size, but also its very low price, which makes it easy for Egypt to produce thousands for the Egyptian fleet of aircraft and integrate it into hundreds of aircraft at a limited cost. Therefore, you find, for example, Egypt requested it from Chinese ammunition such as the BLUE ARROW 7B//11/21 because Egypt manufactures a similar missile with an extended range of 35-40 kilometers and weighs only 40-45 kilograms, because Egypt has huge numbers of drones and such ammunition is in high demand, and also to complete the previous HELFIRE missiles on the American AH-64E & AT-802 aircraft. Fourthly, local development is less expensive. For example, Turkey sells the TB2 aircraft for $5 million, which may be higher than the price of the 6th OCTOBAR aircraft, which carries 18 missiles and the electronic equipment is more than excellent.The Emirates itself REACH-S is very cheap and it is true that the Emirates requested to buy 120 TB2 aircraft, but it is for re-export to African countries such as Ethiopia and Asian countries, especially since the Turks provided global advertising for their products, which made some believe in their superiority and distinction, although in the Ukrainian theater of operations it was not new.The Emirates works, for example, on exporting from stocks at a fast delivery price, which is applied in armored vehicles. You transfer the money and receive the product as if you were buying from a mall and a weapons dealer's warehouse for small weapons.
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MILKOR 380 COMPATE TO REPLACE WING LOONG 1 IN EGYPT FROM AIG

The EDGE GROUP UAE is already cooperating with Egypt in exploiting the Egyptian production lines in favor of producing a number of its products in Egypt to benefit from the size of the local market as well as the low cost of production in Egypt.

INDIA WILL PRODICR UAE RACH-S/M FOR INDIAN MARJET
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RANGE OF EGYPTIAN LOITERING MUNITION BASED IN TABA FAMILY DRONES


We come to a point of observation from the Arab countries Egypt, the Emirates and Saudi Arabia, the three of them produce Serbian products, such as PGB-128 & RAVEN 145, but the Emirates has begun to buy entire Serbian projects to block the road to Saudi Arabia and Egypt in cooperating with the Serbs by acquiring Serbian products.

Simply cooperating with small countries such as Serbia, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Greece and even Cyprus is preferable for Egypt because they sell the entire product.

I will give you another example, South Africa offered the Milkor 380 aircraft to Egypt and Saudi Arabia, and the Egyptian AMISTON company will produce it with a local license.

The Egyptians found that companies such as AOI and MOAP, companies led by the military, are completely failed, so they are establishing local private companies affiliated with the army and intelligence secretly with part of their investments with the local private sector.

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AIG AMISTON PRODUCE SRS-1A Sarisa LOCALLY AND EXPAND COOPERAATON SINCE 2021
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Do not forget that the arms industry and its trade is a mafia monopolized by the military and they do not allow anyone to get the cake except a very small part, and Turkish companies, as long as their size has become global, it will be difficult to cooperate with the local mafia to allow They have something that can be produced by another party, so for example Egypt is heading towards the Milkor 380 aircraft instead of ANKA, especially since the South Africans provide a greater transfer of technology than other parties such as the Italians and Europeans.

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ZWJ-700 & WZ-7 Always in the Chinese competition


So as a result of the Egyptian and Saudi contracts, the aircraft is being developed and capabilities are being added to it and a large number of engines are being secured outside of any American restrictions. Simply put, AMISTON finds itself with a domestic market in Egypt of about 100 aircraft to replace an old fleet of WING LOONG 1 & CH-4, in addition to covering the needs of the Horn of Africa countries to confront Ethiopia.

So we consider any agreements implemented by a company such as AOI to be propaganda and not very likely to succeed. It is better to stay away from them and go to private companies to ensure success.

There are also what are called market requirements. For example, AMSTON will produce developed versions of the ASN-301 aircraft loaded on Renault chassis simply for external marketing and export to African countries that request large quantities of the Shahed 136 aircraft, and Iran has large requests.
For example, the Ethiopians signed a deal worth $ 120 million in the past days to purchase several SAHAD-136/149 & MAHAGR-6 drones

In preparation for the trade in Somalia and Sudan between Ethiopia and these countries in the coming period

This does not mean that it is not possible to cooperate with the Turks, but the Turks must understand that cooperation with them requires strong offers, technology transfer, better prices and higher specifications. For example, the ANKA aircraft is available to Egypt and an old agreement between Egypt and Turkey can be activated, and Egypt requested the manufacture of the previous mission computer and command and control systems for the aircraft series. China sells Egypt CH-4E & CH-5 aircraft in new quantities every two years for a simple reason: unifying the operating and management vehicle system for the two aircraft in the same system makes the aircraft that fall during operation, and this is expected to be replaced with newer aircraft


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WZ-7 USE COMMAAN ENGINE WP-13 USED IN EGYPTIAN F-7

The Turks' opportunity with Egypt is a share of the HALE market, which China has so far obtained a part of, whether from the WZ-7 aircraft or even what China is offering from the CH-7/GJ-11 aircraft with a unified engine Turbojet used on previous Chinese fighters for ease of maintenance and reduced operating costs.

Therefore, cooperation with the Turks will be limited to products that cannot be produced locally now, due to the lack of investments and also quick requirements such as Kızılelma aircraft and even limited quantities of aircraft such as

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This does not mean that the door is closed to Turkish ammunition, but only those that represent distinction. For example, the entry of the ATAMCA missile to work on some units and F-16 aircraft, as it is a continuation of the HARPOON missile, and agreements with the Turks to push Turkish turbojet engines to work economically, will be in return, especially since Egypt easily produces Chinese ammunition after developing it, even with higher specifications than the Chinese in general. For example, the HJ-11 missile, the Egyptian version, has a range of 6.5 kilometers instead of the Chinese, with a range of 5300-5500 meters, and with improved capabilities to target helicopters within the category of cheap, widely used weapons at a price of $ 12,000 per missile, when Egypt chose the QN-202D ammunition over the ammunition Competition as it is the best performance and specifications and can be integrated into many platforms. The Turkish superior view is one of the reasons for its failure. Any cooperation must be at the level of equality and benefit for both parties, not recipients of Turkish production and accepting what the Turks offer as if there is no jealousy. I believe that the South Africans had their armored vehicle exports crushed in Egypt when the South Africans were saying that we offer the Arabs what we want at the price we want and the level of technology we want. That is why OTT, SVI and other southern companies failed. Their arrogance led to their being crushed in the markets and your arrogant presentation of weapons makes everyone turn away from cooperation and that there is no alternative. The truth is completely different. Alternatives are available and contracts are concluded quickly after some people live in the illusion of arrogance.
 
Still you are showing mock up and low quality systems from Egypt and The UAE which can not match with Turkish technology

China can not offer high quality game changer UCAVs and unmanned stealth Fighter Jets like Turkish AKINCI , ANKA-3 and KIZILELMA

Also Turkish UCAVs including TB-3 can take off from amphibious assault Ships or Aircraft Carriers


btw Turkish guided munitions , cruise missiles and kamikaze Drones are far better than any UCAV based weapon in the world

25-30-50-80-150-200-250-280-700 km with LASER or RF or IIR or dual seeker ( RF+IIR ) or E/O Camera ...... including supersonic speed

Also AESA Radar , EOTS and IRST for air to air engagement with 100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air Missiles

with high quality Turkish ASELFLIR-500 and ASELFLIR-600 E/O System which are better than any Chinese System



Since 2018, Turkiye , China and the United States have made a combined total of 69 sales of armed military drones to 40 different nations.

Turkiye made 65% of the sales, and China accounted for another 26%, while the United States only provided 8%.


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Still you are showing mock up and low quality systems from Egypt and The UAE which can not match with Turkish technology

China can not offer high quality game changer UCAVs and unmanned stealth Fighter Jets like Turkish AKINCI , ANKA-3 and KIZILELMA

Also Turkish UCAVs including TB-3 can take off from amphibious assault Ships or Aircraft Carriers


btw Turkish guided munitions , cruise missiles and kamikaze Drones are far better than any UCAV based weapon in the world

25-30-50-80-150-200-250-280-700 km with LASER or RF or IIR or dual seeker ( RF+IIR ) or E/O Camera ...... including supersonic speed

Also AESA Radar , EOTS and IRST for air to air engagement with 100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air Missiles

with high quality Turkish ASELFLIR-500 and ASELFLIR-600 E/O System which are better than any Chinese System



Since 2018, Turkiye , China and the United States have made a combined total of 69 sales of armed military drones to 40 different nations.

Turkiye made 65% of the sales, and China accounted for another 26%, while the United States only provided 8%.


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First, you market the Turkish product by making any other product poor, and this is a dirty advertising idea to detract from others.What is being advertised as better products than Turkey, the Turkish product is available to everyone. You yourselves are still begging Egypt to buy your products since a year ago, and Egypt is not interested.In addition, we do not recognize that your product is the best.As a Turk, if you sell garbage, you will say that it is the remaining garbage in the world, but this does not mean that you are honest or that we recognize your advertising or that your products are the best.
There is no evidence that the Turkish product is of higher quality except for your poor advertising and your lies that you never get tired of.At the beginning, I said that these are Male models that Egypt displays, and because you do not have any sense, taste, or intelligence, you do not understand the Eastern doctrine in displaying weapons. I will give you a simple example. Egypt has been exporting EJUNE-SW aircraft to Algeria and Nigeria since 2020, and Egypt produced them in 2019. Simply put, Egypt does not announce its latest production

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Some countries that follow the orbit of Western countries are moving to buy some Turkish weapons that have no competition from France or Italy because they only do not buy Eastern weapons.

Turkish products have been tested in the Ukraine war, and Turkish drones are constantly being crushed.

You market your weapons for many reasons, you An occupied country with 28 American military bases and America sells weapons to militias and separatist groups through Turkey, in addition to selling weapons to the American civilian market, as you are a state affiliated with it. The Turks do not have any ethical standards in selling weapons, and this allows them a market. They have no deterrent other than making money. They do not care about selling it to a gang, mafia, or militias. What matters is money. This is not a source of pride.

Your extreme stupidity makes you repeat words without any awareness. No country produces weapons and exports them, and they are of poor quality. Russian and Chinese weapons had problems with accuracy and quality in the seventies and early eighties, not now. Currently, everyone produces precision weapons. You promote your high-priced products. We consider them theft, and this is one of the reasons for rejecting them. Do not repeat another lie. Egypt bought French systems such as the Rafale fighters, and German systems such as the IRIS-T SLM are better than what Turkey will produce in equipment and in large quantities. Any story that we buy cheap weapons is belied by reality.

China For example, the largest producer of drones in the world and produces fifth-generation fighters and has a drone, Turkey does not dream of a direction and has a drone in service, Turkey is trying to produce a similar one, and Turkey itself obtained missile technology from China, so your claim that Egypt and the Emirates produce poor weapons is for the main reason that they are not Turkish

And we have many examples, Algeria bought a series of Turkish drones and then bought the Chinese WJ-700 & WING LOONG II, and also in larger quantities of Turkish drones

And Turkish products were confronted by Egypt

When the Turks placed the Koral electronic warfare systems in the Al-Watiya base and they were destroyed, the Turks do not announce that they lost 3 Aksungur aircraft that were in tests in Turkey, that is, simply claims that the Turkish weapon is superior are non-existent and the Turkish BMC vehicles are destroyed, they are all made of biscuits in Ukraine and all conflicts

You only set standards of efficiency and quality under the title that the Turkish product is good And jealousy no

On the contrary, the one who sets the standards for the effectiveness and quality of weapons is Egypt. Egypt successfully markets any weapon it buys globally due to the quality of the choice. We have famous examples:
Rafale aircraft and Gowind 2500 corvettes

While you, the Turkish corvette is a siege that we only use as cheap EZZ ships and not high-quality ones to protect economic zones, i.e. not to confront Israel, for example. Our true vision of Turkish weapons is that they are cheap weapons and not the highest quality and available

And I gave an example that you did not understand: the Turkish ATAMCA missiles, which are integrated into platforms such as the F-16 aircraft because they are cheap compared to the HARPOON missile and the EXOCET missile, and not because they have a longer range

Regarding the range of weapons, for example, it does not announce its possession of long-range weapons until many years after they enter service. Who told you that we do not possess weapons with long ranges? Rather, Egypt is superior to the Turks in long-range ballistic missiles DF-15/21, and even the Chinese M20 missiles were developed by Egypt With large destructive warheads different from Chinese production and produced for 10 years

Even the Chinese coastal missiles YJ-12 were developed with ranges higher than 560 kilometers and are produced locally

Because you are young in Las and ignorant, the first country to use cruise missiles for many years in the sixties, Egypt also possessed and used cruise missiles, ballistic missiles and rocket artillery in the October War in 1973 before Turkey dreamed of possessing missiles, we are the masters in this field

You as an arrogant Turk cannot acknowledge facts, for example, Egypt offers a MALE aircraft such as the 6 oct with a higher payload of 720 kilometers, 18 missiles and a range of 30 hours of flight, raising the slogan these are poor products
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The Turks did not produce the Kızılelma aircraft, while China actually produced the GJ-11, DARK SWORD and WZ-7 aircraft in service years before your products

We use Turkish offers to sell weapons to Egypt A pressure tool on France and China that we have a Turkish competitor, so these countries provide better technical and financial offers

Even India provides Egypt with high levels of technology transfer and the latest Indian offers to Egypt are a $6 billion credit line to purchase Indian weapons, but an Indian offer to make Egypt the center for exporting Indian weapons to Africa
I told you before that we do not recognize that the Turks are the center of the universe, and I do not hide that I do not want Egypt to cooperate with Turkey militarily at all, we are not friends and we will not be real friends, as history is bitter from the hateful Ottoman occupation and the Turkish colonial policy and its crimes against Arab countries effectively prevent any desire for cooperation, but rather exploiting the Turks as a means to obtain better offers from other countries, and I gave you very simple examples that the Turkish product entered into competition with the Chinese product and China won, whether the Chinese QN-202DD against the Turkish YATAGAN or even the Indian SAAW against the Turkish competitor KUZGUN, but India has a large development program SAAW to reach long-range versions And Mini Cruise from him
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You should know that your nakedness is what destroys you and makes you lose any chance for real cooperation

One of the misleading words that you promote your products with is that Egypt has no country that will transfer technology except the Turks, and you saw Egypt refuse to develop the F-16V from America and prefer the Chinese J-10C aircraft, and even ignored the Korean offers for the T-50/FA-50 aircraft and went to inspect and test the production lines and prefer the LCA TEJAS MK1 aircraft, and the Indians offer a huge range of their products for local manufacturing.

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The Korean offer was rejected due to the exaggerated price and lack of credit facilities.

One of the misleading words that you promote your products with is that Egypt has no country that will transfer technology except the Turks, and you saw Egypt refuse to develop the F-16V from America and prefer the Chinese J-10C aircraft, and even ignored the Korean offers for the T-50/FA-50 aircraft and went to inspect and test the production lines and prefer the LCA TEJAS MK1 aircraft, and the Indians offer a huge range of their products for local manufacturing.

You have to learn humility and also learn that you are not the only ones in the universe so that you can succeed. You exploit all the topics in order to market your products as if it were a dream, and this is not convincing at all. Science was present 1000 years before the existence of the Turkish tribes and it will be present after the upcoming earthquakes in Turkey as well. You are a country that exists now and may not exist tomorrow.
 

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