Egyptian Military Industries & Products
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It's about time, bro. How long have we been screaming at the EAF to go in this direction? It's a no-brainer. They had the excuse of procrastinating on getting these because of only viable platform in the EAF at the time was the F-16s which we all know would never be allowed to integrate Chinese equivalent to the AMRAAM. But since they aquired the MiG-29Ms, they should've moved on these a lot sooner IMO. I know it's easier said than done from the comforts of my laptop & mancave lol. But it's all constructive criticism not meant to chastise only.
Prior to the MIG-29M/M2, they might've been able to integrate them only onto the Block-52s because of obvious reasons. But again, the US would never allow Chinese weapons on their aircraft especially with the adaptor pylon the Chinese have developed to facilitate such integrations. Now they have 46 jets they can load up with these and add them to the R-73 (and possibly R37M) and make those things about as lethal as can possibly be. It would be a long time coming for the EAF to have such potency in the A2A spectrum.
If they continue to get resistance from Les Francois regarding the Meteor, then they might have to convince them to integrate the PL-15s on the Rafales!
This is crazy. I don't think many people realize how broad the radar availability is in the Egyptian military. They have so many powerful setups accross the country and looks like they're still adding to the field. Between early warning and surveillance and the slew tasked with the EAD through that new state of the art command & control headquarters, they seem to be taking this aspect more seriously than any of the others. I was going to open up a thread on just the radars because there is so much of it that it deserves its own thread. When I get some time I will certainly do that. It's really incredible what they have and operate and all the sectors involved and how they've centralized all the types under one command. Really great stuff.
Speaking of command & control, do we have any new information on the 2 Airbus A330 MRTT A2A refueling tankers? Is the order still ongoing or did it collapse?
And what about the new order of 30 Rafales? Any news on when they'll be arriving? I'm sure the other orders such as the 80 for the UAE and possibly 72 for Saudiya will put a time crunch on the measly 30 for the EAF lol. Let's hope not. And that they've straightened out any issues with the Meteor. Can't have that crap looming on us again, especially when the Emiratis & Saudis will certainly be getting theirs.
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No news yet on the MRTT..It's about time, bro. How long have we been screaming at the EAF to go in this direction? It's a no-brainer. They had the excuse of procrastinating on getting these because of only viable platform in the EAF at the time was the F-16s which we all know would never be allowed to integrate Chinese equivalent to the AMRAAM. But since they aquired the MiG-29Ms, they should've moved on these a lot sooner IMO. I know it's easier said than done from the comforts of my laptop & mancave lol. But it's all constructive criticism not meant to chastise only.
Prior to the MIG-29M/M2, they might've been able to integrate them only onto the Block-52s because of obvious reasons. But again, the US would never allow Chinese weapons on their aircraft especially with the adaptor pylon the Chinese have developed to facilitate such integrations. Now they have 46 jets they can load up with these and add them to the R-73 (and possibly R37M) and make those things about as lethal as can possibly be. It would be a long time coming for the EAF to have such potency in the A2A spectrum.
If they continue to get resistance from Les Francois regarding the Meteor, then they might have to convince them to integrate the PL-15s on the Rafales!
This is crazy. I don't think many people realize how broad the radar availability is in the Egyptian military. They have so many powerful setups accross the country and looks like they're still adding to the field. Between early warning and surveillance and the slew tasked with the EAD through that new state of the art command & control headquarters, they seem to be taking this aspect more seriously than any of the others. I was going to open up a thread on just the radars because there is so much of it that it deserves its own thread. When I get some time I will certainly do that. It's really incredible what they have and operate and all the sectors involved and how they've centralized all the types under one command. Really great stuff.
Speaking of command & control, do we have any new information on the 2 Airbus A330 MRTT A2A refueling tankers? Is the order still ongoing or did it collapse?
And what about the new order of 30 Rafales? Any news on when they'll be arriving? I'm sure the other orders such as the 80 for the UAE and possibly 72 for Saudiya will put a time crunch on the measly 30 for the EAF lol. Let's hope not. And that they've straightened out any issues with the Meteor. Can't have that crap looming on us again, especially when the Emiratis & Saudis will certainly be getting theirs.
First Rafales from the new deal are supposed to arrive this year 2024..
GoMig-21
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Let's hope it's that soon. That would be incredible and it should be that way considering the EAF was the front-runner in ordering as well as opening the proverbial door for Rafale export deals which exploded after Egypt's initial order. And to think we've been slighted with the Meteor ooof, enough to make you really angry lol.
BTW, huge breaking news in Russia - a couple of gunmen with AKs stormed a concert and have killed 40 people and injured over 100. The kinda thing that doesn't really happen in Russia!
And speaking of possible future military deals, saw this today on a twitter handle that belongs to an Egyptian military journalist. That's him checking out Le Terrible, the Barracuda!
Even the Type 209s we got stiffed on them, forcing us to go out and spend more on other better capable platforms such as this. Really incredible when you think of the adversity the Egyptian Armed Forces has had to endure when it comes to purchasing top lethal platforms.
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Yes that was officially annouced about the Rafale start of delivery 2024..
Barracuda..Oh Man!
https://defencepk.com/forums/threads/russia-ukraine-war-news-discussions-updates.424/page-345
Barracuda..Oh Man!
https://defencepk.com/forums/threads/russia-ukraine-war-news-discussions-updates.424/page-345
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The Egyptian Ministry of Military Production published a lengthy report on military industrialization in Egypt, which is a major arm of industry in Egypt.
The Ministry explained that during the rule of Egyptian President Abdel Fattah El-Sisi, many achievements were achieved, as in 2023, 7 military projects were implemented, such as: supplying and installing (2) induction furnaces with a capacity of (6) tons for the engine foundry at Helwan Castings Company, and developing production lines. Compressed air spraying at Abu Qir Engineering Industries Company, raising the efficiency of the urea formaldehyde plant at Heliopolis Chemical Industries Company, developing heavy ammunition production lines at Helwan Engineering Industries Company by arranging a (1000) ton hydraulic press to press the ring and rehabilitating a (250) vertical ton press, and developing a production unit. Steel at Abu Zaabal Engineering Industries Company by raising the efficiency of the continuous casting machine, and developing cutting equipment for armored steel in the armor production and repair factory by arranging (4) laser cutting machines. Weapons production lines at Abu Zaabal Specialized Industries Company were also developed by adding (8) machines. Five-axis CNC, two (2) multi-axis machines with a diameter of 52 mm, and a multi-axis CNC lathe machine.
She noted that during the past year, a number of research was approved aimed at developing the technologies used in production, most notably research on the design and implementation of an ammunition carrier for the 155 mm A5 howitzer on the M548 vehicle, modifying the intensity of the howitzers for the benefit of the artillery department, developing the 107 mm launcher system, and equipping the Sena 200 armored vehicle with a turret. The trio, the production of the initial sample of the launcher (Raad-200), the development and production of the zero lot for the ARS-2 disinfection vehicle equipment, and the design and production of the 375 mm Dolphin depth-based missile shell.
The statement confirmed that one of the most prominent achievements of the Ministry of Military Production in the military field is participation in the International Defense Industries Exhibition in its third edition, “EDEX 2023,” which was held last December under the patronage of President Abdel Fattah El-Sisi. Over the course of the four days of the exhibition, the Ministry of Military Production participated in a pavilion that includes many... Distinctive and unique products. The exhibition witnessed remarkable activity by the Minister of State for Military Production, as he was keen to receive many delegations and hold many meetings to discuss cooperation topics of common interest, in addition to inspecting the pavilions of a number of companies participating in the exhibition and signing a number of memorandums of understanding and agreements with the aim of joint cooperation and exchange of experiences. A memorandum of understanding was signed with the General Authority for Military Industries in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and a cooperation agreement with the Russian company "Victor", within the framework of the keenness to cooperate with friendly and brotherly companies and institutions to exchange experiences and achieve strategic partnerships with a positive return.
One of the most prominent products that participated in the "EDEX 2023" exhibition was the missile launcher on a tracked armored vehicle, "Raad 200", which is the latest military product of the Ministry of Military Production and was displayed for the first time during the exhibition. It was designed and manufactured by Egyptian minds and hands inside one of the military production factories. It came as a result of the combined efforts of more than one subsidiary of military production companies and units to design and implement it. The exhibition also included participation in the exhibition with an upgraded version of the “Sina 200” armored vehicle, in addition to a variety of products typical of military production companies, the most important of which is “armored steel,” which is the basis of the vehicle industry. Armored.
Over the past years, the Ministry of Military Production, through its subsidiary companies and units, has participated in the implementation of many national projects to support comprehensive and sustainable development in the country by taking advantage of the surplus production capacities of the Ministry’s affiliated entities. Among these projects is the production of environmentally friendly means of transportation, where the manufacturing and assembly of a number of ( 100) chassis and delivered them to MCV within the framework of the frequency bus production project in cooperation with MCV for the benefit of the Ministry of Transport. The first phase of the project to convert a number of public transport buses to run on natural gas instead of diesel was implemented, as a number of (377) buses belonging to the Public Transport Authority were converted. In Cairo and Alexandria to operate on natural gas, out of a total number of (2265) buses. A number of (110) electric buses were also produced and supplied for the benefit of the Cairo and Alexandria governorates. These buses were produced under the name (SETIBUS) in cooperation between the Armored Production and Repair Factory (Military Factory 200) and the Transportation Industry Company. "MCV" aims to design and produce an Egyptian public transportation bus that runs on clean energy to stimulate the green economy.
The Ministry of Military Production has a long history in the field of establishing waste recycling factories, and one of the most prominent projects that the Ministry is currently participating in is the waste-based electricity generation station in Abu Rawash. In April 2023, a contract was signed to implement a project to finance, design, construct, exploit, maintain, and transfer ownership of the first station from Its type in Egypt to convert municipal solid waste into electrical energy is between the Giza Governorate and the Renergy Group Partners alliance, which includes the National Military Production Authority and the “Green Tech” and “Oak” Holding companies. This project is a milestone step on the way towards Egypt’s localization of the technology of converting waste into electrical energy and enhancing Partnership with the local and international private sector, and the site land has already been received, where (1,200) tons of waste will be treated and burned daily to produce approximately 30 megawatts/hour to be pumped onto the medium voltage network, which will benefit the citizens of Giza Governorate, as well as provide a continuous energy source. And clean.
Within the framework of the state’s plan to establish the infrastructure for the new hygiene system in the governorates for waste recycling factories to produce fertilizer and alternative fuels (RDF) with the participation of the ministries of (Environment - Local Development - Planning), the establishment of (4) new waste recycling factories has been completed, and the efficiency of a number has been raised. (6) waste recycling lines and (4) first sorting stations in different governorates. The design of two waste recycling lines (Egyptian) “Mustaqbal 1 with a capacity of 20 tons/hour and Future 2 with a capacity of 40 tons/hour” was completed.
Also in light of the cooperation between the Ministries of Military Production and Local Development to establish new waste recycling factories; Within the framework of the first phase, the Mahalla al-Kubra factory in Gharbia Governorate was delivered to produce organic fertilizer and alternative fuel with a capacity of 20 tons/hour, and within the framework of the second phase, work was carried out to raise the efficiency of the first sorting stations in South Sinai Governorate in Al-Tur and Abu Redis.
Recently, specifically in February 2024, Engineer Mohamed Salah El-Din Mustafa, Minister of State for Military Production, witnessed the signing ceremony of a joint manufacturing contract between one of the companies affiliated with the Ministry of Military Production, which is Helwan Metal Equipment Company (360 Military Factory), and the Japanese “Mizuha” Company Limited to manufacture a device for generating water from the air. With a capacity of 16 liters/day of drinkable water, the idea of the device’s work is based on the theory of condensing moisture from the atmospheric air and treating it to make it drinkable. This device was produced in light of diligent efforts made over a period extending for more than a year during which the device went through a number of development stages and reached a percentage The local component is more than 70%, as a sample of the device was manufactured at the 360 Military Factory.
Over the past years, the Ministry of Military Production has continued to achieve an increase in performance indicators. For example, total revenues in the year (2022/2023) amounted to (30.5) billion pounds, while in the year (2021/2022) they amounted to 26.7 billion pounds, while activity revenues amounted to In the year (2020/2021) the amount was 20.1 billion pounds, while the amount was 15.7 billion pounds in the year (2019/2020), compared to 13.18 billion pounds in activity revenues during the year (2018/2019), while in the year (2017/2018) it amounted to 11,618. One billion pounds, and the total revenues of activity in the year (2016/2017) amounted to 8.9 billion pounds, and in the previous year it was 6.3 billion pounds.
https://arabic.rt.com/middle_east/1549368-الجيش-المصري-يكشف-عن-أحدث-أسلحته-ومشروعاته-الحربية/#
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Consolidating industrial relations: The Emirati EDGE Group discusses prospects for strategic cooperation with Egypt in the field of ammunition and armored vehicles.
March 9, 2024: In a meeting at the headquarters of the Egyptian Ministry of Military Production, Engineer Mohamed Salah El-Din Mustafa, Minister of State for Military Production, hosted a delegation from the “Lahab” and “Nimr” companies, affiliated with the Emirati “Edge” group. During the meeting, the Ministry's desire to establish a strategic partnership with the Emirati side was discussed, which would benefit both parties by benefiting from the manufacturing and technological capabilities and human expertise of Egyptian and Emirati companies, especially in the field of developing the munitions and armored vehicles industry.
Mohamed Dad Mohamed, Director of the Ammunition Development Department at the Emirati “Lahab” Company, praised the advanced technical and technological capabilities of Egyptian companies, noting that the industrial growth achieved by Egypt stimulates joint cooperation.
For their part, representatives of the Emirati company “Nimr”, which specializes in manufacturing vehicles and armored vehicles, expressed their interest in expanding the horizons of cooperation with Egyptian companies, benefiting from the technological, manufacturing, artistic, research and human capabilities and distinguished infrastructure that it possesses, within the framework of the close relations between the UAE and Egypt.
Following the meeting, the delegation of the two companies toured a number of Ministry of Military Production factories to explore manufacturing and technological capabilities and discuss future cooperation opportunities.
At the conclusion of the visit, representatives of the EDGE Group expressed their hope that this visit would be the beginning of a fruitful and sustainable cooperation that strengthens strong Emirati-Egyptian relations.
What are the Egyptian companies working in the field of ammunition and armored vehicles?
In Egypt, there are several companies working in the field of manufacturing ammunition and armored vehicles, including:
• Military Factory 300 (Abu Zaabal Specialized Industries): It is considered one of the most modern factories in the world in the field of producing ammunition of various calibers and the “Sinai 200” armored vehicle.
• The Egyptian Ministry of Military Production: It includes (17) industrial companies, participates in national and development projects, and works to develop the production of ammunition, weapons, and equipment.
• Military Factory 99 (Helwan Engineering Industries Company): It is working on installing new lines for the production of artillery ammunition in cooperation with international companies.
These companies contribute to enhancing Egypt's defense capabilities and developing its military industry.
Products of the Emirati company Edge
Emirati company Edge, one of the largest companies in the defense field, offers a wide range of products and services, including:
• Armored vehicles: Manufacture of advanced armored vehicles.
• Missiles and weapons: development and production of various missiles and weapons.
• Drones: Production of drones for various purposes.
• Electronic warfare: Providing solutions in the field of electronic warfare.
• Cyber Defense and Secure Communications: Providing cyber defense systems and secure communications solutions.
• Subsystems, training and services: Providing training and technical support services.
EDGE seeks to be a leader in the defense and security industries, and continues to expand its portfolio of products and services to meet national and international security needs.
March 9, 2024: In a meeting at the headquarters of the Egyptian Ministry of Military Production, Engineer Mohamed Salah El-Din Mustafa, Minister of State for Military Production, hosted a delegation from the “Lahab” and “Nimr” companies, affiliated with the Emirati “Edge” group. During the meeting, the Ministry's desire to establish a strategic partnership with the Emirati side was discussed, which would benefit both parties by benefiting from the manufacturing and technological capabilities and human expertise of Egyptian and Emirati companies, especially in the field of developing the munitions and armored vehicles industry.
Mohamed Dad Mohamed, Director of the Ammunition Development Department at the Emirati “Lahab” Company, praised the advanced technical and technological capabilities of Egyptian companies, noting that the industrial growth achieved by Egypt stimulates joint cooperation.
For their part, representatives of the Emirati company “Nimr”, which specializes in manufacturing vehicles and armored vehicles, expressed their interest in expanding the horizons of cooperation with Egyptian companies, benefiting from the technological, manufacturing, artistic, research and human capabilities and distinguished infrastructure that it possesses, within the framework of the close relations between the UAE and Egypt.
Following the meeting, the delegation of the two companies toured a number of Ministry of Military Production factories to explore manufacturing and technological capabilities and discuss future cooperation opportunities.
At the conclusion of the visit, representatives of the EDGE Group expressed their hope that this visit would be the beginning of a fruitful and sustainable cooperation that strengthens strong Emirati-Egyptian relations.
What are the Egyptian companies working in the field of ammunition and armored vehicles?
In Egypt, there are several companies working in the field of manufacturing ammunition and armored vehicles, including:
• Military Factory 300 (Abu Zaabal Specialized Industries): It is considered one of the most modern factories in the world in the field of producing ammunition of various calibers and the “Sinai 200” armored vehicle.
• The Egyptian Ministry of Military Production: It includes (17) industrial companies, participates in national and development projects, and works to develop the production of ammunition, weapons, and equipment.
• Military Factory 99 (Helwan Engineering Industries Company): It is working on installing new lines for the production of artillery ammunition in cooperation with international companies.
These companies contribute to enhancing Egypt's defense capabilities and developing its military industry.
Products of the Emirati company Edge
Emirati company Edge, one of the largest companies in the defense field, offers a wide range of products and services, including:
• Armored vehicles: Manufacture of advanced armored vehicles.
• Missiles and weapons: development and production of various missiles and weapons.
• Drones: Production of drones for various purposes.
• Electronic warfare: Providing solutions in the field of electronic warfare.
• Cyber Defense and Secure Communications: Providing cyber defense systems and secure communications solutions.
• Subsystems, training and services: Providing training and technical support services.
EDGE seeks to be a leader in the defense and security industries, and continues to expand its portfolio of products and services to meet national and international security needs.
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The Sinai 200 armored vehicle equipped with a triple combat turret
The Sinai 200 armored vehicle was also developed by equipping it with a triple combat turret, according to the Ministry of Military Production’s report on its achievements in 2023.
Egypt had announced at the IDEX 2021 exhibition the cooperation of the Arab International Optics Company with one of the European companies to produce a triple combat tower locally, which is controlled remotely and can be equipped with a 40 or 30 mm cannon in addition to a dual launcher that can be equipped with any type of anti-armor missile, including Kornet and Russian Konkurs missiles.
The Sinai 200 vehicle is a tracked armored personnel carrier that was designed and developed locally. It weighs 14 tons, and its crew consists of a driver and a commander, in addition to 6 individuals. The vehicle can be equipped with several different versions, including an infantry combat vehicle, an ambulance version, and a missile launching platform. Mortar launcher, signal and electronic warfare vehicle, it can also be equipped to operate as a command and control vehicle, and ammunition transporter.
The Sinai 200 armored vehicle has a level of protection against explosive waves caused by explosive devices and mines, reaching STANAG L4 at the sides and STANAG L3 protection level at the bottom. It is also equipped with basic armament represented by a remote control platform for a 12.7 mm machine gun.
According to statements by officials at the Ministry of Military Production to foreign media: The Egyptian Ministry of Defense has been contracted to manufacture an unspecified number of Sinai 200 tracked armored vehicles, and work is currently underway to produce them, with the first batch scheduled to be delivered during the current year.
The Sinai 200 armored vehicle was also developed by equipping it with a triple combat turret, according to the Ministry of Military Production’s report on its achievements in 2023.
Egypt had announced at the IDEX 2021 exhibition the cooperation of the Arab International Optics Company with one of the European companies to produce a triple combat tower locally, which is controlled remotely and can be equipped with a 40 or 30 mm cannon in addition to a dual launcher that can be equipped with any type of anti-armor missile, including Kornet and Russian Konkurs missiles.
The Sinai 200 vehicle is a tracked armored personnel carrier that was designed and developed locally. It weighs 14 tons, and its crew consists of a driver and a commander, in addition to 6 individuals. The vehicle can be equipped with several different versions, including an infantry combat vehicle, an ambulance version, and a missile launching platform. Mortar launcher, signal and electronic warfare vehicle, it can also be equipped to operate as a command and control vehicle, and ammunition transporter.
The Sinai 200 armored vehicle has a level of protection against explosive waves caused by explosive devices and mines, reaching STANAG L4 at the sides and STANAG L3 protection level at the bottom. It is also equipped with basic armament represented by a remote control platform for a 12.7 mm machine gun.
According to statements by officials at the Ministry of Military Production to foreign media: The Egyptian Ministry of Defense has been contracted to manufacture an unspecified number of Sinai 200 tracked armored vehicles, and work is currently underway to produce them, with the first batch scheduled to be delivered during the current year.
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Soon in Egypt: ThyssenKrupp is developing an adjustable unmanned underwater vehicle
ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems
ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems, is developing an unmanned underwater vehicle (UUV), according to a report by Janes website. A prototype of the Modifiable Underwater Mothership (MUM) project is expected to be presented in 2024.
It is a modular UUV being developed for various applications such as deep sea exploration, scientific research and maritime security. Its modular design supports integration of third-party modules and other customizations to meet a range of mission requirements.
Both the core module and the mission module are enclosed in a hydrodynamic enclosure and designed as standard three- or six-meter containers that facilitate transportation and assembly. The report said that the basic units include the cutting, control and flight system, the fuel cell and propulsion system, in addition to the communications and control system.
The UUV is equipped with an air-independent fuel cell propulsion (AIP) system powered by hydrogen fuel cells and lithium-ion batteries. According to TKMS, the AIP system enables the vehicle to perform long-endurance missions at depths of up to 5,000 metres.
It can be assumed that Egypt will own it in the coming years.
https://www.thyssenkrupp-marinesyst...ovations/mum-modifiable-underwater-mothership
ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems
ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems, is developing an unmanned underwater vehicle (UUV), according to a report by Janes website. A prototype of the Modifiable Underwater Mothership (MUM) project is expected to be presented in 2024.
It is a modular UUV being developed for various applications such as deep sea exploration, scientific research and maritime security. Its modular design supports integration of third-party modules and other customizations to meet a range of mission requirements.
Both the core module and the mission module are enclosed in a hydrodynamic enclosure and designed as standard three- or six-meter containers that facilitate transportation and assembly. The report said that the basic units include the cutting, control and flight system, the fuel cell and propulsion system, in addition to the communications and control system.
The UUV is equipped with an air-independent fuel cell propulsion (AIP) system powered by hydrogen fuel cells and lithium-ion batteries. According to TKMS, the AIP system enables the vehicle to perform long-endurance missions at depths of up to 5,000 metres.
It can be assumed that Egypt will own it in the coming years.
https://www.thyssenkrupp-marinesyst...ovations/mum-modifiable-underwater-mothership
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Egyptian military thinking is based on stages in the progression of armament...a thought that is somewhat similar to the idea of building the Egyptian missile wall for air defense in the war of attrition through leaps. Likewise, Egyptian armament in the recent period, specifically the last decade, is built on leaps and stages:
The first stage was to contract for the largest possible amount of available weapons from any camp, on the condition of speedy delivery. This was evident in the deals of the S-300 VM and MIG-29 M/M2 aircraft, as well as the French Rafale, French Mistral, and Fremm.
The second stage was to focus on purchasing military equipment, with the stipulation that some parts be manufactured in Egypt, including the French Gowind, as well as the German Meko and the Korean K9 Thunder cannon. We may also find the Italian Berghamini manufactured in Egypt, and perhaps also the Korean tank.
The third stage, which Egypt is pursuing, is to increase the TOT ratios as much as possible in any upcoming deals, including the submarine deals, as well as advanced training and ground support aircrafts.
The fourth stage, which is the last stage, is to rely on innovation, design, and local manufacturing under the name “Made in Egypt” for some of Egypt's equipment, but this stage requires time, great efforts, and major investments in the field of research to ultimately reach a pure Egyptian product that can be marketed abroad as well.
The first stage was to contract for the largest possible amount of available weapons from any camp, on the condition of speedy delivery. This was evident in the deals of the S-300 VM and MIG-29 M/M2 aircraft, as well as the French Rafale, French Mistral, and Fremm.
The second stage was to focus on purchasing military equipment, with the stipulation that some parts be manufactured in Egypt, including the French Gowind, as well as the German Meko and the Korean K9 Thunder cannon. We may also find the Italian Berghamini manufactured in Egypt, and perhaps also the Korean tank.
The third stage, which Egypt is pursuing, is to increase the TOT ratios as much as possible in any upcoming deals, including the submarine deals, as well as advanced training and ground support aircrafts.
The fourth stage, which is the last stage, is to rely on innovation, design, and local manufacturing under the name “Made in Egypt” for some of Egypt's equipment, but this stage requires time, great efforts, and major investments in the field of research to ultimately reach a pure Egyptian product that can be marketed abroad as well.
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The SMX Ocean – a submarine based on the hull of the nuclear powered ‘Barracuda’ – the next generation SSN of the French Navy. The SMX Ocean will be fitted with a conventional propulsion system (SSK) with AIP technology.
Developing this concept DCNS engineers focused on endurance and high sustained speed. The 4,700 tons SSK was designed for an endurance of 14,000 nautical miles (3 months autonomy) and a continuous transit speed of 14 knots for 1 week using the Air Independent Propulsion (AIP) system fitted with two fuel cells. The original nuclear propulsion system of the Barracuda design was also replaced with six diesel engines and three sets of Li Ion batteries.
Two thruster pods are deployable at the bottom of the hull will enable the submarine to manoeuver even while the main screw is not in action. The X rudder design is the same as on the Barracuda, also allowing increased manoeuvrability.
The SMX OCEAN SSK is fitted with one large modular Vertical Launch System tube that may vertically launch up to six MdCN cruise missiles. The submarine may also deploy F21 heavy torpedoes, SM39 Block 2 anti-ship missiles and a submarine launched version of the Mica missile for submarine self protection against aerial attack (A3SM Underwater Vehicle Version).
As for the SMX-Ocean's combat capabilities, they mirror or even exceed those of the most modern nuclear attack subs of a similar size, and even larger in some cases. The SMX-Ocean boats are designed to pack vertical launch tubes for land and surface attack long-range cruise missiles and even anti-aircraft missiles. This is all in addition to the standard forward firing torpedo tubes, although these too are capable of deploying anti-ship, anti-sub and even anti-air weaponry. In total, this innovative new SSK design will be able to pack an incredible amount of firepower, totaling 34 missiles, mines or torpedoes. In comparison, the Virginia Class SSNs, which are nearly double displacement, carry 39 weapons.
In addition to her bristling quiver full of missiles and torpedoes, full accommodations for a team of special forces frog men, including a lockout chamber and a 'garage' for swimmer delivery vehicles and/or a dorsally mounted midget submarines are part of the initial design.
A huge part of the SMX-Ocean concept includes the use of unmanned underwater vehicles (UUVs) and unmanned air vehicles (UAVs) that can range out far from the submarine's location. There they can use active and passive sensors to help build a situational picture of the battlespace, all without putting their mothership at risk.
For instance, an UUV can be forward deployed and used tactically to search for other subs or mines using active sonar, or it can pave the way for a special operations team inserting deep into enemy territory. A sub-launched UAV will be able to provide targeting information for a standoff attack on an enemy flotilla, reconnoiter a suspect smuggling ship, or conduct over-watch for a special forces raid. All this can be done while the sub itself still remains hidden, dozens of miles away from the target in question.
A deployable 'virtual mast' system is also built into SMX-Ocean design. Basically, this is a buoy system fitted with electro-optical, signals intelligence, and even radar sensors, as well as data-link communications, that can be deployed while the sub is at great depth. Such a system can be used as a traditional periscope would, to visually survey the boat's surface surroundings and target craft if need be, or it could be used for communications, building an aerial and surface radar picture, or to relay information collected by a sub-launched UAV.
This whole "virtual mast" technology is so exciting because it largely alleviates the most vulnerable situation that an attack sub regularly puts itself in- breaking the surface of the water to prosecute an attack, communicate, or to simply see what is going on around it. The traditional periscope itself creates a radar return that many sub hunting radar systems are incredibly capable at detecting, and it is often a sub hunter's best clue as to a boat's location. In addition, all these technologies, including UUVs, UAVs and virtual masts are all expendable, as they can be abandoned on command or destroyed by the enemy without a major loss of the submarine they are supporting. Simply put, it is a much better deal losing a $2M UUV instead of a $1B+ submarine, not even counting the cost in human life.
The SMX-Ocean is a very enticing product for countries that do not have nuclear submarine capabilities but sure would love some without the cost or infrastructure hassle associated with them.
In the end, the more near-silent subs in the water doing reconnaissance, patrols, and supporting special operations the better, regardless of how they are powered.
* It is highly possible this is the submarine Egypt is negotiating for with Naval Group..
Developing this concept DCNS engineers focused on endurance and high sustained speed. The 4,700 tons SSK was designed for an endurance of 14,000 nautical miles (3 months autonomy) and a continuous transit speed of 14 knots for 1 week using the Air Independent Propulsion (AIP) system fitted with two fuel cells. The original nuclear propulsion system of the Barracuda design was also replaced with six diesel engines and three sets of Li Ion batteries.
Two thruster pods are deployable at the bottom of the hull will enable the submarine to manoeuver even while the main screw is not in action. The X rudder design is the same as on the Barracuda, also allowing increased manoeuvrability.
The SMX OCEAN SSK is fitted with one large modular Vertical Launch System tube that may vertically launch up to six MdCN cruise missiles. The submarine may also deploy F21 heavy torpedoes, SM39 Block 2 anti-ship missiles and a submarine launched version of the Mica missile for submarine self protection against aerial attack (A3SM Underwater Vehicle Version).
As for the SMX-Ocean's combat capabilities, they mirror or even exceed those of the most modern nuclear attack subs of a similar size, and even larger in some cases. The SMX-Ocean boats are designed to pack vertical launch tubes for land and surface attack long-range cruise missiles and even anti-aircraft missiles. This is all in addition to the standard forward firing torpedo tubes, although these too are capable of deploying anti-ship, anti-sub and even anti-air weaponry. In total, this innovative new SSK design will be able to pack an incredible amount of firepower, totaling 34 missiles, mines or torpedoes. In comparison, the Virginia Class SSNs, which are nearly double displacement, carry 39 weapons.
In addition to her bristling quiver full of missiles and torpedoes, full accommodations for a team of special forces frog men, including a lockout chamber and a 'garage' for swimmer delivery vehicles and/or a dorsally mounted midget submarines are part of the initial design.
A huge part of the SMX-Ocean concept includes the use of unmanned underwater vehicles (UUVs) and unmanned air vehicles (UAVs) that can range out far from the submarine's location. There they can use active and passive sensors to help build a situational picture of the battlespace, all without putting their mothership at risk.
For instance, an UUV can be forward deployed and used tactically to search for other subs or mines using active sonar, or it can pave the way for a special operations team inserting deep into enemy territory. A sub-launched UAV will be able to provide targeting information for a standoff attack on an enemy flotilla, reconnoiter a suspect smuggling ship, or conduct over-watch for a special forces raid. All this can be done while the sub itself still remains hidden, dozens of miles away from the target in question.
A deployable 'virtual mast' system is also built into SMX-Ocean design. Basically, this is a buoy system fitted with electro-optical, signals intelligence, and even radar sensors, as well as data-link communications, that can be deployed while the sub is at great depth. Such a system can be used as a traditional periscope would, to visually survey the boat's surface surroundings and target craft if need be, or it could be used for communications, building an aerial and surface radar picture, or to relay information collected by a sub-launched UAV.
This whole "virtual mast" technology is so exciting because it largely alleviates the most vulnerable situation that an attack sub regularly puts itself in- breaking the surface of the water to prosecute an attack, communicate, or to simply see what is going on around it. The traditional periscope itself creates a radar return that many sub hunting radar systems are incredibly capable at detecting, and it is often a sub hunter's best clue as to a boat's location. In addition, all these technologies, including UUVs, UAVs and virtual masts are all expendable, as they can be abandoned on command or destroyed by the enemy without a major loss of the submarine they are supporting. Simply put, it is a much better deal losing a $2M UUV instead of a $1B+ submarine, not even counting the cost in human life.
The SMX-Ocean is a very enticing product for countries that do not have nuclear submarine capabilities but sure would love some without the cost or infrastructure hassle associated with them.
In the end, the more near-silent subs in the water doing reconnaissance, patrols, and supporting special operations the better, regardless of how they are powered.
* It is highly possible this is the submarine Egypt is negotiating for with Naval Group..
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