Egyptian Mukhabarat : Intelligence Services

Massive Jahiliya. As a matter of fact, if one really wants to get technical, the Quraysh didn't even speak Arabic in the same sense as the Ahruf (or dialect) of the time, let alone the common dialect known today. And like you said and as we know quite well, it was a time of overbearing Jahiliya which needed a lot of correcting. That changed through the succeeding Caliphates & centuries bringing the birth of the Arabic language as we know it today. So there's no way to assume that a specific dialect spoken at such a time, by such a people as the Quraysh could possibly stay close to its true form and end up being the Palestinian Arabic or be close to it. If anything, the possibility would be even more unlikely.
Bro..I was talking about Arabic in that time..it was very sophisticated.. even when Qoran was sent ..Allah said : and we've sent it in Arabic..

Some of the virtues of Arabs had no comparable such as; tribal loyalty, masculinity, hospitality, desire for freedom, and kindness are only a few noble features of the Arab character. All scholars believe that poetry in the pre-Islamic era was the highest embodied development of the culture. Probably, the answer to what was the Arab culture at that time is a few stanzas of poetry. If there is a genius idea, a poet can form some verses. The Qaida was a poem indented the right way to convey a message. The Qaida's high level of thematic simplicity in that day, its usual rhythm, and refined curves indicate plainly that it is much older than anybody might have thought.

The Mu’allaqat, group of seven long Arabic poems who were honored as masterpieces of poetic composition. ‘The name means The Suspended Odes or The Hanging Poems’

Among the best-known poets of the pre-Islamic period is Imru’ al-Qais, Samaw’al ibn ‘Adiya, al-Nabigha, Tarafa, Zuhayr bin Abi Sulma, and Antarah ibn Shaddad.

There were pre- most famous Imru'o al-Qais..like; al-Barraq b. Hawhan, Laila bint Lukaiz and
Uhaiha b. al-Julah, Amr b. Qaml'a, AbuDu'ad al-Iyadi and Abid b. al-Abras..

The Arab tradition relates that the Jahilis spoke
one common language, with minor tribal idiosyncrasies.
The same tradition traces this common language back to
the times of Isma'il b. Ibrahim al-Khalil, and makes a
distinction between the language spoken by the Arabs
before Isma'il and the language spoken since Isma'Il.
The pre-Ismacil language is called the first Arabic
which emphasises the purity of the language, and the
post-Isma'il language is called Arabic (Al Arabiya), enlightening arabic..or Al Arabiya Al fasihah..


Some poetry from Jahiliya times:

امرؤ القيس​


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عنترة بن شداد​


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أبو الطيب المتنبي***​


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And much more..
 
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Bro..I was talking about Arabic in that time..it was very sophisticated.. even when Qoran was sent ..Allah said : and we've sent it in Arabic..

Yes, bro. I don't question any of that. I didn't want to go off topic too much and stayed within the confines of the question that was asked regarding the comment that the current Palestinian dialect of Arabic is somehow related to the ahruf that the Quraysh spoke. Then when you mentioned Jahiliya, I took that as related to the ahruf of the Quraysh during the Prophet's (s.a.w.s.) time, which IIRC was one of 6 or 7 different regional ahrufs of that was spoken by the different tribes and how it's has somewhat changed through the centuries. Not to mention that if there would be any correlation to that specific ahruf, it would be current Arabic spoken in the Arabian Peninsula and not in Philistine. That was the point I was making and didn't wish to get into the Arabic of the Quran al Karim, being it's completely unrelated to the thread topic. (y)
 
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Ashraf Marwan: Death of a Superspy​


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That was a half-decent documentary on his murder. But what a bunch of useless stinking no good for nothing that British police/investigators/MI6/James Bond/even Scotland Yard lmao are. The man was found dead in his overcoat laying face first in the grass garden which was 30ft away from the 3rd floor balcony where Marwan's flat was (meaning he had to be propelled considerably to land that far from such a high height. Obviously he wasn't practicing diving into a pool!

Then all building security cameras for ONLY THAT DAY were disabled and as a result, no videos existed, how convenient lmaaoooo.

And he had absolutely ZERO reason to commit suicide and these inefficiently useless clowns couldn't even rule it a homicide? What a bunch of useless shameless donkeys and these lowlifes weren't in cahoots with the scum-sucking jackboot thug pigs of the mossadkharra? The level of ridiculousness is beyond comprehension.

And what about the nerve on these zionist pigs to try and insert enough doubt that somehow he was a zionist agent LMFAO! A man who was married to the daughter of arguably the only leader in the HISTORY of ARABS & MUSLIMS who DESPISED the illegal creation of the zionist state THE MOST and was the biggest hater of the state of Israel Gamal Abdel Nasser himself.............then became a subordinate and about as close of a friend/son to Anwar Al Sadat and took up a position in Egyptian Intelligence only later to spread fake information to the zionist that clearly made a huge difference in creating the surprise attack of the Yom Kippur war and its primary success of crossing the canal almost unimpeded, to later being honored by Mubarak in more ways than one with some of the highest honors and positions one can be bestowed upon as an Egyptian for his service to the country and these pigs try to make him out as if he was actually a spy for the them? LMFAO. These demons will go to any length to hide their shame and to fake the fact that they were duped and outsmarted at their own supposed "super-duper" "other level" intelligence lmao. They got played so badly at their own game they tried peddling that crap to the sheep out there that they're some kind of superintell crapazoid to hide their shame of being played so badly when they're nothing but a bunch of no-good, murderous criminals is all. That crap was crushed in an instance by this man and this entire plotted scheme by Egyptian intelligence and they just can't take it. Eventually they'll need to come to terms with it lol.

And the fact that some are even trying to make it seem like ok, maybe there is a possibility he did work for the zionist but then because of the information he gave them actually helped Egypt, that means he was a double agent LMAOOOO! He never even went past being an Egyptian agent PERIOD. The rest is the usual zionist perpetrated lies or rubbish that ironically, the entire world is FINALLY waking up and seeing because of the blatant lies they've been caught trying to perpetrate on people to justify this current genocide on the Palestinian people, when we've been telling them this shit for decades now. Yet they never believed us. At least now they're seeing it for themselves the level of scuzzy filth that is these zionist.
 
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Like the other fellas said, it's really it's own. So no like Ghost said and in-between like SC said.

It's a bit more complex than that because the Arabic language withing each dialect has it's own uniqueness. For example, there is classical Arabic which is more common to all Arab-speaking people. Then there's formal Arabic which has similarities between all Arabic speaking countries & people, but is also unique to each country and lastly there is colloquial Arabic. Basically the non-formal, uniquely inherent to each people and that colloquial Arabic that is spoken in Egypt is about as unique as can be. You won't hear anything close to it in any of the other Arabic-speaking countries or people. For example, if you hear Egyptians speaking that regular, homestyle street and buddy-buddy talk, you'll recognize it instantly because no one else in the Arab world speaks it that way. It's almost uniquely slangish. What you're hearing in those leaked secrete recordings is the typical Egyptian colloquial but mixed with some formal Arabic. If you listen to Egyptians on the streets, that's the pure colloquial Egyptian Arabic that doesn't exist anywhere else.

There are actually other accents within Egypt and Egyptian Arabic such as Asyuti Arabic spoken in certain areas of the northern Nile Delta region as well as Bedouin Arabic which has certain Berberis dialect similarity to it and if there is any Arabic with Maghrebi flare, that's the one.

Palestinian Arabic is closer and part of Sham or shamy Arabic, spoken essentially in El Sham regions such Syria, Lebanon & Jordan. That's closer to Egyptian formal Arabic. Iraqi Arabic is closer to GCC Arabic which is about as traditional as it gets since that's really the birthplace of the language.

So as you can see, it's a mumbalumbgum clustermush.



Well, TBH how could anyone of us know what dialect was spoken during "ancient" Quraish? 'Ancient' being the operative word since even if the language was passed down through the generations and spoken in the same manner, it would be closer to Saudi Arabian, GCC & Yemeni Arabic than anywhere near Palestine. I think your friend has an honest, loyal bias to Palestinians which is perfectly fine and might feel like giving them an honor as such, but it's inaccurate. If anything, Palestinian Arabic is closer to Shamy Arabic like Ghost was saying.

Shukur for a comprehensive answer.
Really interesting
 
That was a half-decent documentary on his murder. But what a bunch of useless stinking no good for nothing that British police/investigators/MI6/James Bond/even Scotland Yard lmao are. The man was found dead in his overcoat laying face first in the grass garden which was 30ft away from the 3rd floor balcony where Marwan's flat was (meaning he had to be propelled considerably to land that far from such a high height. Obviously he wasn't practicing diving into a pool!

Then all building security cameras for ONLY THAT DAY were disabled and as a result, no videos existed, how convenient lmaaoooo.

And he had absolutely ZERO reason to commit suicide and these inefficiently useless clowns couldn't even rule it a homicide? What a bunch of useless shameless donkeys and these lowlifes weren't in cahoots with the scum-sucking jackboot thug pigs of the mossadkharra? The level of ridiculousness is beyond comprehension.

And what about the nerve on these zionist pigs to try and insert enough doubt that somehow he was a zionist agent LMFAO! A man who was married to the daughter of arguably the only leader in the HISTORY of ARABS & MUSLIMS who DESPISED the illegal creation of the zionist state THE MOST and was the biggest hater of the state of Israel Gamal Abdel Nasser himself.............then became a subordinate and about as close of a friend/son to Anwar Al Sadat and took up a position in Egyptian Intelligence only later to spread fake information to the zionist that clearly made a huge difference in creating the surprise attack of the Yom Kippur war and its primary success of crossing the canal almost unimpeded, to later being honored by Mubarak in more ways than one with some of the highest honors and positions one can be bestowed upon as an Egyptian for his service to the country and these pigs try to make him out as if he was actually a spy for the them? LMFAO. These demons will go to any length to hide their shame and to fake the fact that they were duped and outsmarted at their own supposed "super-duper" "other level" intelligence lmao. They got played so badly at their own game they tried peddling that crap to the sheep out there that they're some kind of superintell crapazoid to hide their shame of being played so badly when they're nothing but a bunch of no-good, murderous criminals is all. That crap was crushed in an instance by this man and this entire plotted scheme by Egyptian intelligence and they just can't take it. Eventually they'll need to come to terms with it lol.

And the fact that some are even trying to make it seem like ok, maybe there is a possibility he did work for the zionist but then because of the information he gave them actually helped Egypt, that means he was a double agent LMAOOOO! He never even went past being an Egyptian agent PERIOD. The rest is the usual zionist perpetrated lies or rubbish that ironically, the entire world is FINALLY waking up and seeing because of the blatant lies they've been caught trying to perpetrate on people to justify this current genocide on the Palestinian people, when we've been telling them this shit for decades now. Yet they never believed us. At least now they're seeing it for themselves the level of scuzzy filth that is these zionist.
Yeah he was far from the residence and behind a park bench..that is already strange..and makes their fabricated story weak..And the other Egyptian official before him who had allegedly committed suicide in the same way and in the same residence makes it even stranger if not mysterious..
 
Yeah he was far from the residence and behind a park bench..that is already strange..and makes their fabricated story weak..And the other Egyptian official before him who had allegedly committed suicide in the same way and in the same residence makes it even stranger if not mysterious..

Everything pointed to a murder, and they couldn't even rule it a such? How pathetic is that? Were they lazy? Or were they afraid if they forced a murder investigation it would come back and bite them in the ass? What were they afraid of, the mossad? The British police, along with Scotland Yard and MI5 & 6 & 7 & whatever else they have over there AND the royal crown are all afraid of those murderous jackboot thug pigs of the illegal zionist entity? That's pretty pathetic.
 
The most dangerous Arab spies From the files of Egyptian General Intelligence

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So you really think that the Egyptian Mukhabarat and ISI aren't focusing on their respective enemies next door!?

Yes I do. Their 1967 and our 1971 come to mind.
 
Yes I do. Their 1967 and our 1971 come to mind.

Both of those are what, 5 decades ago?

For us, the incompetence that was displayed in 1967 will never happen again, that's a guarantee. Regardless of the corruption or what have you, the way they've invested and planned is almost as if that is the only thing they're basing the entire military and intelligence structure on, avoiding a 1967 repeat.

I suspect Pakistan has done the same exact thing.
 
Egypt’s General Intelligence Service (GIS) behind US senator Bob Menendez's indictment. His trial is wrapping up in the next few days or so. Some crazy stuff going on in this case involving Egyptian Intelligence.

Behind a senator’s indictments, a foreign spy service works Washington​

Oct. 13, 2023 Updated Fri., Oct. 13, 2023 at 6:41 p.m.

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By Mark Mazzetti and Vivian Yee
New York Times


“What else can the love of my life do for you?” asked Nadine Arslanian, the girlfriend of Sen. Bob Menendez.
She posed the question at a cozy dinner at a steakhouse in May 2019 attended by Gen. Ahmed Helmy, Egypt’s top spy in Washington. The discussion was revealed in a federal indictment Thursday.

Some pretty fascinating stuff. Apparently, the Jews aren't the only ones greasing the pockets of US congressmen & women. The rest of the story HERE if interested.
 
This is from the last few days, there's been a series of meetings between US & Egyptian brass, most notably this one between CIA Director Bill Burns and president Sisi & head of Egyptian Mukhabarat (General Intelligence Service). This is the first ever publicly released image showing all three men in Cairo. No one really knows exactly what this signals, but one thing's for sure is that neither the US nor Egypt give a hoot about the hostages Hamas is holding since they could easily convince Sisi & Co. to make Hamas hand over the remaining ones but neither are really trying to do so.

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We pretty much know the CIA doesn't give a damn about Gaza and Egypt's only concern besides the war ending so it can start pushing aid into the strip is that no one even mentions the word "Sinai". Not only is that off the table, it's out of discussion since they won't even entertain the thought, least of all from the CIA.

This might have a lot to do with feeling out Egyptian brass and especially Mukhabarat with regards to Russia having a footing in Sudan and Libya since the US' disgusting support of Ukraine conflicts with Egypt's alliance with Russia and has greatly affected military deals between the two, AND the Dabaa nuclear power plant is about halfway through construction by Russia, they might be discussing concessions regarding any push Russia might have in the region especially with US elections coming up. Also might have to do with some of the very recent comments from British intelligence regarding the future of Egyptian military standing in Sinai and specifically as it relates to Israel's blatant violation of the Camp David Accords with regards specifically to the Philadelphia Corridor. They might be feeling out Egyptian plans with the Camp David accords since that's the only thing that's being threatened and that'll be quite concerning to the US and it's little surrogate zionist demon state. Interesting stuff to say the least.
 
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The most dangerous operations of the Egyptian General Intelligence | Collected ring

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Lavon Scandal/Operation Susanna
In 1975, an Israeli newspaper published news about Golda Meir and Moshe Dayan attending the wedding of a forty-five-year-old girl, Marcel Nino.
One of the journalists was alerted to the news and was surprised that Golda Meir and Dayan were attending the wedding of an unknown woman who was not related to them.

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The journalist sought to meet the bride and conducted a press interview with her.

To reveal to him the events of a sabotage operation in Egypt, planned by the Israeli Minister of Defense in the 1950s, Pinhas Lavon. The operation was called (Operation Susanna).

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The Israeli journalist called it the "Lavon scandal."

The importance of the Lavon scandal is that it is the main reason for the establishment of the Egyptian General Intelligence, headed by Zakaria Mohieddin. And the beginning of the appearance of the Egyptian hero Raafat Al-Hagan, the resignation of both Ben-Gurion from the Prime Minister of Israel office and Pinhas from the Ministry of Defense, and the emigration of Jews from Egypt.

Lavon Scandal/Operation Susanna:

After Egypt and England agreed on all the terms of the British evacuation from Egyptian lands, military intelligence in the Israeli army put in place a sabotage and espionage plan in Egypt that carries out attacks on cinemas, public institutions, and some American and British institutions in the hope that these actions will lead to tension in Egyptian-American relations and Britain’s reluctance to evacuate its forces from Suez.

Lavon sent the famous Israeli intelligence man Ivri Elad, known as "John Darling " to Egypt to recruit a number of Jewish youth. Elad actually succeeded in recruiting a number of young Egyptian Jews who belonged to the Zionist Agency, which was working in secret to transport Jews to the new Israel. They were the Egyptian Jewish doctor Moshe Marzouk, who worked in a Hospital in Abbasiya, and the network was headed by Samuel Azar, along with: Victor Levy - Robert Dasa - Philip Natason - Marcel Victorin Nino - Meir Zafran - Meir Meohas - Eli Jacob and Tszar Cohen, Eli Cohen. Then they were joined by Israeli officer Max Bennett, who was spying on Egypt at the time, and he was the same Israeli spy who planned bombings in Baghdad in 1951 against the Jewish community in Iraq to sow enmity and hatred between them and the rest of the Iraqis to urge them to immigrate to Israel.

Beginning of the process:

Instructions were arriving from Israel to the sabotage cell via Israel Radio, specifically from a daily home program, and in one of the episodes of the program “How to Make an English Cake,” Israel launched the password “Housewife’s Choice” to start the process. The instructions were clear and explicit: To blow up the cars of diplomats, English nationals, economic institutions, and cultural and media centers.

On July 2 1954 the network carried out its first terrorist operation in which they succeeded in bombing the US Post Office in the city of Alexandria, initially with a small package, which resulted in a fire in the office and a number of casualties. On July 14, the network carried out its second operation when it planted firebombs at the American Library headquarters in Cairo and Alexandria.at the same time, which led to fires and injuries among employees and visitors to the two libraries, and the press at the time treated these incidents as a short circuit.

On July 23, during the “Revolution Celebrations,” explosives were supposed to be placed at the train station, the Rivoli Theater in Cairo, and the “Metro Rio” cinemas in Alexandria.

But than bad luck played its part, and one of the explosives in the pocket of the agent, “Philip Natasone,” who was in charge of placing the explosives in the Rio movie theater, exploded, and passers-by saved him. Unfortunately for him, there was a policeman at the scene who doubted his actions, so he took him to the hospital under the pretext of treating him from the effects of the fire. There, the doctors said that the young man’s body was smeared with a shiny silver powder.

There was a similar powder in a glasses case that he was holding in his hand, and doctors believed that the ignition was the result of a chemical reaction.

Upon searching the young man, another bomb was found with the name of “Maroun Ayak,” the owner of the eyeglasses store, on it. He was arrested. He said that his name was Philip Natason, a Jew, and he was 21 years old. His nationality was unknown. He admitted that he joined a terrorist organization responsible for the fires, and a small factory for explosives, highly flammable chemicals, incendiary bombs ready for use, and papers explaining how to make bombs were found in his house.

Based on Natason's confessions, Victor Levy and Robert Dasa were arrested.

Mamdouh Salem (Member of the Revolutionary Command Council) took over the Investigations..

The three insisted that they were working individually, without instigators or financiers. As for the reasons, they are “their love for Egypt and their contribution to its national cause, and so that the British and Americans know that they will leave Egypt by force and terrorism!!

Mamdouh Salem asked them: Why did you burn the post office building, which belongs to the Egyptians??

They didn't find an answer!

As investigations continued, Samuel Azar, an engineer, was arrested. He was the founder of the Alexandria Cell and its leader for some time before he ceded leadership to Victor Levy, who was better trained than him.

From Azar's confessions, the authorities reached Meir Mihoas, who is of Polish origin. The most dangerous thing that Mihoas confessed to was his reference to John Darling, who later turned out to be the leader of the network, the founder of its two branches in Cairo and Alexandria, and one of the most dangerous men in Israeli intelligence at that time.

Meyohas also revealed the Jewish doctor Moshe Marzouk, who was responsible for the Cairo branch, and he was arrested, and from his confessions, Victorin Nino, famous as Marcel and Max Bennett, was arrested. As well as Eli Jacob, Youssef Zaafaran, Cesar Youssef Cohen, and Eli Cohen.

Ivri Elad fled Egypt before his arrest, and Israel had suspicions about Elad’s involvement in handing over members of the network to Egyptian intelligence.

Court:

On December 11, 1954, the network members were tried in the Cairo Military Court, which issued its rulings as follows:

* Execution by hanging of Mosheya Marzouk and Samuel Azar (the sentence was carried out on January 31, 1955).
* Life imprisonment with hard labor for Victor Levy and Philip Natason.
* 15 years' hard labor for Marcel Victorin Nino and Robert Dassa.
* Hard labor for 7 years for Mayer Youssef Zaafaran and Mayer Samuel Meyohas.

The innocence of Eli Jacob, Cesar Yosef Cohen and Eli Cohen.

* Confiscation of radio equipment, money, and Max Bennett’s car.
The ruling ignored Max Bennett because he had committed suicide in prison and his body was returned to Israel years later.

Following the trial, Israel tried to appease Egypt to release the organization members..

US President Eisenhower sent a personal letter to President Abdel Nasser requesting the release of detainees “for humanitarian reasons.”
Anthony Eden, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and French officials sent similar letters and requests, but they were all met with absolute rejection.

The Israeli news agency said at the time, “This rejection is a slap to the rulers of the West.”

On January 31, 1955, the death sentences were carried out on Moshe Marzouk (buried in the Jewish cemetery in Basateen) and Samuel Azar (buried in the Jewish cemetery in Alexandria), and Moshe Sharett immediately declared them “martyrs.” Members of the Knesset mourned their deaths, and official mourning was declared the next day; Israeli flags were lowered and newspapers appeared without colors, and the names of the two spies were released on the streets of Beersheba.

At the beginning of 1968, the prisoners in the case were released as part of a prisoner exchange deal with Egypt following the June setback.

They were given a "hero's welcome" in Israel and were appointed to the Israeli army as a sure way to prevent them from talking about the issue.

20 years after the events of Operation Susanna, Marcel Nino, Robert Dassa, and Youssef Zaafaran appeared for the first time on Israeli television and attacked the Israeli governments that did not bother to search for a way to release them!!

Eli Cohen:

After obtaining acquittal in the Lavon scandal he migrated to Israel in 1957, he was recruited to work as an Israeli spy in Syria.

He traveled to Argentina under the name of the Syrian businessman "Kamel Amin Thabet" and there he became close to the Syrian community. Then he traveled to Syria after he deluded everyone that he liquidated all his businesses in Argentina because of his homesickness. He continued in Syria for four years
approaching army officers and military officials and was able to obtain important information from them that he sent to Israel.

In the year 1965, by chance, Jack Peton (Raafat Al-Hagan, the famous Egyptian spy inside Israel) saw a picture of Kamel Thabet on the Golan Heights in the company of Syrian officers, so he sent a message to Egypt in which it said: “Kamel Thabet is nothing but an Israeli spy whose name is Eli Cohen . I saw his picture with a Moroccan Jewish friend named Laila, and when I asked her about him, she said that he was her sister’s husband.

On the same night that Al-Hagan’s message arrived, an Egyptian intelligence officer traveled to Syria and met with President Amin Al-Hafez and informed him of the information sent by the Egyptian agent Raafat Al-Hagan.
Eli Cohen was arrested..

He was executed on May 18, 1965 in Marjeh Square in Damascus.

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Raafat Al-Hagan says: “I attended his funeral in Israel among Mossad men after the Arab newspapers announced the news of his arrest and execution, and I shared with friends the grief over the fall of...(Our star) the legendary Eli Cohen..


Source: Watan media.
Media of the New Republic.
 
#Revealing_the_hidden
#4 calls recorded by General Intelligence placed a rope around Morsi's neck
When the judge asked the officer who recorded the calls
Why are you monitoring the president and recording his calls?!!!
He replied: I was doing my work and monitoring the calls of the terrorist Ayman al-Zawahiri, and I was surprised that he was talking to the President of the Republic.

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So I informed my boss at work
Four calls were made by the ousted president during his short presidency, and they were centered around forming a free army as a step towards dismantling the Egyptian army and completely evacuating Sinai from the Egyptian presence in implementation of the eight billion dollar agreement that was the reason for the American support.

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